SI ranks all 32 starting QB's. Stafford ranked.......

[Mitchrapp]

You sound like the child and are still trying to deflect. I won the argument. Get over it.

DSF 1,000,001

LKP 1 (but that was like 9 years ago)

 

[LKP]

DSF 1,000,001

LKP 1 (but that was like 9 years ago)

Continue to deflect. Good for you.

 

[Mitchrapp]

Continue to deflect. Good for you.

Can't deflect 1 in 57. It's staring us right in the face..

 

[LKP]

Can't deflect 1 in 57. It's staring us right in the face..

1 in 57 is a deflection over what we are talking about. You are digging yourself a deeper hole.

You are a broken record. You are too emotional about history that doesn't even matter for 2015. Get it together.

 

[brewer229]

1 in 57 is a deflection over what we are talking about. You are digging yourself a deeper hole.

You are a broken record. You are too emotional about history that doesn't even matter for 2015. Get it together.

 

[Mitchrapp]

Lol.

 

[tonyballs]

Not really. It's getting boring and repetitive.

Nah, that's why you keep showing up

 

[tonyballs]

Dude come on, Stafford's beaten out the likes of Rodney Peete, Scott Mitchell, Charlie Batch. He's the best. bro...

Who gives a fuck?! He's the best we've ever had since Layne. Doesn't matter who was behind the wheel. The kid gets roasted too often in that city when it's clearly a TEAM effort on why they failed. BRO.

 

[tonyballs]

Again no reasons just nonsense and name calling. Typically Tony. QB rating has been used forever. Look at the top of that list. Would you really argue those guys aren't some of the best? Rating must do a decent job.

Hilton appears to be very good, no CJ, but very good legit #1. Wayne was great a few years back, but mid 30s wayne he was equal to a Burleson. Moncrief wow. Really?

Would you take the Colts offense (everyone but luck) in 2014 over the Lions in 2014 (everyone but Stafford)?

Because I put you in your place. And NO, not everyone uses QBR as the gold standard for a QB's ability because it's a joke of a stat and you know it. Nobody in their right mind uses it. Give me a fucking break. Top of the list is completely irrelevant. Those guys are the best in the league and will always be at the top of ANY list. Get over yourself!

Hilton "appears" to be good??? lmfao...ok. Moncrief turned it on a few games last year and they have probably the best 1,2 TE combo in the league. You're right, they got nothing...lol. Go bury your head in the sand.

And your question is hard to answer actually because we have already seen both offenses perform last year. On paper, they were very similar. Nobody really knew what Tate was going to bring and I think he surprised a lot of people...me included. I really don't know and that's honest....

 

[tonyballs]

He gave three reasons:

1. Shattered records (most consecutive road losses against teams .500 or better)
2. Won HUGE games (except any of those that could have clinched the division, any game in lambeau, any road game against, well see reason 1...)
3. Best Lions QB in 50 years (except the past doesn't matter and if you bring up the past you walk down the road kicking people's curb side garbage cans or something).

And as usual, you bring ZERO to the conversation. You're by far the biggest idiot on this board.

 

[tonyballs]

Don't forget he has a nice personality. It's just fun to root for gosh darn nice southern boy. He also makes somewhat comical commercials too. Talent be damned.

Again, you can't quite grasp what I was saying because you're a dummy. Cutler is a coach killer and a jerkoff with probably the same amount of talent than Stafford. Stafford is slightly better IMO. That alone makes me pick Stafford...

 

[tonyballs]

Could you imagine Stafford if he was in a real media market like NY or Philly?? He would have been ran out of town by now.

Philly??? lol

 

[tonyballs]

Stafford couldn't sniff Flacco's jock in the post season.

10-4 W-L most post season wins in the last decade
24-4 TD-INT
180 consecutive post season passes without an int
9 +95 plus passer rating post season games, most in the league including 6 straight
Super Bowl MVP

It's true. Jumpin Joe did impress big time in the postseason. He pulled off the ultimate Troy Aikman and fooled everyone. Got a big fat contract too. Too bad he's one of the most overrated QBs in the game today. You wouldn't have a clue about that though....so sad.

 

[tonyballs]

He's 27, he is what he is. QB just don't suddenly get better at 27. He might have a decent year again but this is it for him. He's Scott Mitchell.

You just started watching football, right? There have been a ton of late bloomers in football....especially at the QB position. Go read up and get back to us....your football IQ is non-existent, bro.

 

[Mitchrapp]

You just started watching football, right? There have been a ton of late bloomers in football....especially at the QB position. Go read up and get back to us....your football IQ is non-existent, bro.

List them and I have a right to change my mind..

 

[brewer229]

Because I put you in your place. And NO, not everyone uses QBR as the gold standard for a QB's ability because it's a joke of a stat and you know it. Nobody in their right mind uses it. Give me a fucking break. Top of the list is completely irrelevant. Those guys are the best in the league and will always be at the top of ANY list. Get over yourself!

Hilton "appears" to be good??? lmfao...ok. Moncrief turned it on a few games last year and they have probably the best 1,2 TE combo in the league. You're right, they got nothing...lol. Go bury your head in the sand.

And your question is hard to answer actually because we have already seen both offenses perform last year. On paper, they were very similar. Nobody really knew what Tate was going to bring and I think he surprised a lot of people...me included. I really don't know and that's honest....

Only place you put me in is the logical pace with your nonsense that you post.

Hilton is a #1, I said that, he's not a top 5 guy. He's equivalent of our #2 in Tate. So as Stafford has weapons.

Moncrief had two games, ill hold off on putting him in a top TE group until he shows some consistent quality.

Simple question. What does Stafford do/have that is above average besides arm strength? Educate us.

 

[Mitchrapp]

Only place you put me in is the logical pace with your nonsense that you post.

Hilton is a #1, I said that, he's not a top 5 guy. He's equivalent of our #2 in Tate. So as Stafford has weapons.

Moncrief had two games, ill hold off on putting him in a top TE group until he shows some consistent quality.

Simple question. What does Stafford do/have that is above average besides arm strength? Educate us.

He slides well?

 

[tonyballs]

List them and I have a right to change my mind..

Drew Brees, Warren Moon, Kurt Warner ...just to name a few. Not saying that Stafford is on their level, but it's never too late.

 

[tonyballs]

Only place you put me in is the logical pace with your nonsense that you post.

Hilton is a #1, I said that, he's not a top 5 guy. He's equivalent of our #2 in Tate. So as Stafford has weapons.

Moncrief had two games, ill hold off on putting him in a top TE group until he shows some consistent quality.

Simple question. What does Stafford do/have that is above average besides arm strength? Educate us.

For one, you said Hilton "appears" to be good. Newsflash, son...he's a stud.

Two! He's better than Golden Tate.

Three! I know Stafford has weapons....never said he didn't

Four!! And this a fucking beaut!!! lol. Moncrief isn't a TE. He's a frickin WR. What I said was, that the Colts have the BEST 1,2 combo of TEs in the business with Fleener and Allen. Deny it, I dare ya....

And to answer your question. For the amount of garbage that Stafford has to throw to his whole career, it's a fucking miracle that he's still in the league. But your witty self will say that we have the best WR in the game, right? RIGHT! Solid argument. It's ONE man though and CJ is double/tripled up at times and Stafford had to throw to beauties like Durham, Ross, Burleson, Pettigrew, Scheffler and whatever schmuck that was booted out of the Arena Football League. Add to the fact that the kid gets killed every year because our joke of an OLine can't block for shit. That means nothing to you and that's understandable because you know nothing about the game of football. He holds almost every Lions QB record that there is to own and a bunch of NFL records to boot. He's done a ton of good for this team. Never said he was perfect and of course he needs to get some of the blame, but he is far and away NOT the problem on this team. One thing I will agree on though.....the offense is starting to shape up around him. OLine stronger, running game looks like it might be stronger and the air attack looks like it's ready to roll.

You have been educated. You're welcome.

 

[cheeno]

I thought we had the best 1,2 combo of Tight Ends in the league.