SI ranks all 32 starting QB's. Stafford ranked.......

[brewer229]

243 reasons we won. Plus the deep ball drawing the PI. Bell and Bush should punch in some TDs every once in awhile. Finally a good run day for Stafford. Prater missed a FG.

23 true points on the road. Redzone mulligans. We won the game. Stafford gets kudos.

Oh yea...who can forget the amazing "Stafford didn't think Fuller would beat press coverage despite DB playing 10 yards off" throw. Great play stafford. Way to "play for the PI" instead of taking the easy TD. Guy is above elite.

Redzone mulligans..that is a new one. So now Stafford gets points for throwing boneheaded INTs in the redzone?

 

[LKP]

Oh yea...who can forget the amazing "Stafford didn't think Fuller would beat press coverage despite DB playing 10 yards off" throw. Great play stafford. Way to "play for the PI" instead of taking the easy TD. Guy is above elite.

Redzone mulligans..that is a new one. So now Stafford gets points for throwing boneheaded INTs in the redzone?

He helped lead the drive. He was eating up time. Lions won and will sweep Bears for 3rd year in a row.

 

[dubbsco]

Can you keep up this troll job for another few weeks? You've carried most of the summer so far. I don't see why not.

 

[LKP]

Can you keep up this troll job for another few weeks? You've carried most of the summer so far. I don't see why not.

It's not a troll job. I just vehemently disagree with most of what everyone on here thinks and says. Bash Stafford winning at Chicago. Bash Mayhew for building a great roster. Bash the Lions for going 11-5 and getting screwed in the playoffs by the refs.

Lions 2015 roster is loaded. Top 5 defense and top 10 offense is the most probable.

 

[dubbsco]

What really cracks me up about that PI call is that it happened with 8:20 left in the 4th quarter to get them to the 30 yard line. Everyone just assumes the Lions would have punched it in and won the game from there.

Here's a thought: Score more than 3 points in an entire half.

 

[LKP]

What really cracks me up about that PI call is that it happened with 8:20 left in the 4th quarter to get them to the 30 yard line. Everyone just assumes the Lions would have punched it in and won the game from there.

Here's a thought: Score more than 3 points in an entire half.

They would have if not for the non-call. Cowboys took up TOP becuase the refs allowed holding on the next drive and Cowboys had a long drive to eat up the clock.

It's wasn't just a one call screw job.

 

[tonyballs]

It's not just QB rating, its anything you look at in terms of per attempt. He is incredibly inefficient. He does nothing at a high level besides throw a lot of passes.

But hey, it's easier to be on the hope he is good, because i want him to be good bandwagon train. You don't need anything to back it up. Just keep making statements and maybe someone will believe you eventually.

Also comebacks. Lets not forget those great Stafford comebacks. Like the one against the Bears last year. Down by four entering the forth. Leads us on two scoring drives. Lets look at his stats from those two heroic...give Stafford a comeback win stat drives...Ready here they are: 1/4 5 yards. Led us to 10 points. What a hero.

Nothing at a high level? Lol

I don't need you to believe me. You're too fkn stupid to grasp it anyways.

And of course you hang your hat on the Bears game. What a joke. Nobody is calling him a hero lol

 

[brewer229]

Nothing at a high level? Lol

I don't need you to believe me. You're too fkn stupid to grasp it anyways.

And of course you hang your hat on the Bears game. What a joke. Nobody is calling him a hero lol

Hey insults and nothing of substance....must be a Tony post.

 

[Mitchrapp]

Hey insults and nothing of substance....must be a Tony post.

You don't even have to look at the name..has his signature all over it. I look at it this way if you get the Tony insulted reply than you're on to something.

 

[jdeb]

I see Stafford in the top 5 this year with the revamped line, rushing attach in place, deep receiving options and his propensity to win games late. Additionally, if you can look at it from the bookend guards, healthy tackles, plus throwing options of Calvin, Tate, Ebron, and Abdullah... I'm stoked. Not to mention Bell pounding the rock and Riddick a change of pace back who can catch. Statistically he was not a stud last year but he grew leaps and bounds with decision making skills and an injury riddled O-Line. This is gonna be his year that he puts it all together and guides this team deep into the post season.

 

[dubbsco]

I guess I have to be that guy since it seems to be the elephant in the white room (and I'm just so darn negative all the time). Joique Bell isn't that good of an RB. In 2013 when he had one of the best olines in the league, he averaged 3.9 YPC. Same exact 3.9 in 2014. I think people get enamored with him being that physical back, rarrr Detroit hard working etc... but he doesn't bring anything to the table that's different from a mid to low-tier RB. Put it this way, if Abdullah doesn't surpass either of these guys, they won't have a strong running attack.

And Riddick hasn't done a thing yet other than being a training camp sensation.

 

[LKP]

I guess I have to be that guy since it seems to be the elephant in the white room (and I'm just so darn negative all the time). Joique Bell isn't that good of an RB. In 2013 when he had one of the best olines in the league, he averaged 3.9 YPC. Same exact 3.9 in 2014. I think people get enamored with him being that physical back, rarrr Detroit hard working etc... but he doesn't bring anything to the table that's different from a mid to low-tier RB. Put it this way, if Abdullah doesn't surpass either of these guys, they won't have a strong running attack.

And Riddick hasn't done a thing yet other than being a training camp sensation.

It was not one of the best run blocking lines. It was a good pass pro line. Raiola and Sims have run blocking problems. Fox/Hilliard did too when Waddle was hurt. So did Pettigrew.

Bell had 5 YPC in 2012.

Bell had 4.4 YPC in the second half of last season after a slow start. he ranked well in broken tackles, yards after contact and elusive rating. He can catch and block too. Bell is a good back.

Abdullah is a good talent and we'll get more than Bush's 80 carries. Both having better blocking should aid our run game.

Bell 200 carries, Abdullah 150 carries. Based on experience and size.

 

[dubbsco]

And that's where I'll disagree with you (what a shock). He's not that good of a back. The last two years, where his sample size of work is MUCH more larger than in 2012, he has not produced. 3.9 in 2013, 3.9 in 2014, ranks him basically at the bottom of people with 100+ attempts.

His style is fine. He'll get you some tough yards. But there are PLENTY of guys who can be had that do the same thing he does. Lions need someone with breakaway ability. That's why I am hoping Abdullah rips the job from Bell, and Bell becomes a 3rd down back.

 

[jdeb]

I guess I have to be that guy since it seems to be the elephant in the white room (and I'm just so darn negative all the time). Joique Bell isn't that good of an RB. In 2013 when he had one of the best olines in the league, he averaged 3.9 YPC. Same exact 3.9 in 2014. I think people get enamored with him being that physical back, rarrr Detroit hard working etc... but he doesn't bring anything to the table that's different from a mid to low-tier RB. Put it this way, if Abdullah doesn't surpass either of these guys, they won't have a strong running attack.

And Riddick hasn't done a thing yet other than being a training camp sensation.

It's hard not to be negative if your a Lions fan. You get a pass. Bell is your typical power back in a 2 back system. If we get 150 yards a game from our backs, we should be talking SB. If Bell averages 57 yards a game again, were in a little trouble. There are not a bunch of stud RB's in the pass happy league when you look at it. Lynch, Peterson, L. Bell, and Murray are the cream of the crop. Lacy and McCoy are in the conversation. A healthy Charles is pretty dynamic.

 

[brewer229]

It's hard not to be negative if your a Lions fan. You get a pass. Bell is your typical power back in a 2 back system. If we get 150 yards a game from our backs, we should be talking SB. There are not a bunch of stud RB's in the pass happy league when you look at it. Lynch, Peterson, L. Bell, and Murray are the cream of the crop. Lacy and McCoy are in the conversation. A healthy Charles is pretty dynamic.

150 YPG from our Backs? You want to get more than any other team got last year out of backs from Bell and a rookie...on a team that favors the pass?

 

[LKP]

And that's where I'll disagree with you (what a shock). He's not that good of a back. The last two years, where his sample size of work is MUCH more larger than in 2012, he has not produced. 3.9 in 2013, 3.9 in 2014, ranks him basically at the bottom of people with 100+ attempts.

His style is fine. He'll get you some tough yards. But there are PLENTY of guys who can be had that do the same thing he does. Lions need someone with breakaway ability. That's why I am hoping Abdullah rips the job from Bell, and Bell becomes a 3rd down back.

Bell did produce. He didn't get the blocking especially early. he had a very good second half of the year and slow first 7 games. He's top 10 in elusive rating, missed tackle and yards after contact. Bell is a good receiver too. You are dead wrong just looking at his YPC and ignoring the blocking.

 

[LKP]

Lions will be about average in run game. 4.1 YPC. And that's all we need.

3.6 YPC was just awful. Bell and Abdullah with better blocking fixes it.

 

[brewer229]

Bell did produce. He didn't get the blocking especially early. he had a very good second half of the year and slow first 7 games. He's top 10 in elusive rating, missed tackle and yards after contact. Bell is a good receiver too. You are dead wrong just looking at his YPC and ignoring the blocking.

So you're saying Stafford had very good production from his backs for Majority of the season in 2014? Interesting.

 

[LKP]

So you're saying Stafford had very good production from his backs for Majority of the season in 2014? Interesting.

Not the first half. And not from Bush due to injury.

at Cards, at Pats, at Green Bay, the bigget problem was protection and nobody getting open. Calvin/Tate were blanketed, no number 3 or 4 stepped up. We ran well againt GB/Zona. But their secondary did a great job and they got pressure. at Pats we didn't run well. With Reiff and Warford out that game, it's not surprising. Plus the 3 dropped TD passes in that game by Lions weapons didn't help.

 

[jdeb]

150 YPG from our Backs? You want to get more than any other team got last year out of backs from Bell and a rookie...on a team that favors the pass?

Seattle averaged 172.6 and Dallas was at 147.1.

150 is doable providing you believe all the hype about Abdullah and Bell supposedly will be ready come game 1. Heck, I would settle for 130 in reality. It's really about keeping defenses guessing which will generate more 1st downs and all the other stuff that comes with it, like keeping defense fresh, scoring consistently, and not for only one half of each game. Keep in mind we won 11 games last year averaging 88.9 yds a game rushing. If we had a running game last year, we could have won the SB.