Sources: NCAA investigating Michigan football for alleged rule violations related to

[Michchamp]

link to above article

 

[Spartanmack]

For my fellow Wolverines to read: "Either everyone's guilty, or no one is" by Dan Wetzel:

At Michigan, Connor Stalions allegedly ran a smash-and-grab sign-stealing operation. Ohio State, Rutgers and Purdue, meanwhile, were reportedly operating the equivalent of a criminal conspiracy. It was pure white-collar stuff.

In the end, they both stole, or participated in the stealing of, the same thing ? information on opponents' play signals in an effort to secure an advantage.

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All we know is some still-unidentified entity hired a still-unidentified private investigator to uncover Stalions' antics in the hopes that the NCAA and the Big Ten would do exactly what they did ? fall for the okey doke and naively overreact.

Charlie Baker has been NCAA president since March. Tony Petitti has been Big Ten Commissioner since May. Neither has much experience with this stuff ? Baker was a politician, Petitti mostly a television executive.

They didn?t know what they didn?t know. Together they opened Pandora?s Box.

Mostly they listened to football coaches who view one kind of advanced scouting as gamesmanship, and another as a kind of crime. The coaches? reasoning? Sending around stolen signs and game plans is common practice, so they don?t care. What Connor Stalions did is apparently not so common, so they did care.

But who in their right mind would listen to such reasoning? Who would be so dumb to agree with it? Who would let the thieves define theft?
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For the record, I do not care what the non-Michigan fans trolling our board believe or don't believe and I am not trying to convince them. If it makes you happy to say that though, go ahead. I don't care. it will probably also make you happy to stick your thumb up your butt.

people that write this garbage are so dumb - of course, it's not at all surprising that you fall for it hook, line and sinker.

Stealing another teams signs isn't illegal under all circumstances. uofm is being investigated for potentially violating rules around how signs are stolen, not for stealing signs. If what other teams did in sharing intel on other common opponents signs is a violation, then that's something that should also be looked at.

Of course, after the fifth time seeing this, it still won't sink in with dolts like you. Facts and reality aren't things you're concerned with, you just can't wait to be offended and light your hair on fire every time someone insinuates uofm and/or harbaugh may be less than perfect.

 

[tomdalton22]

this is a good quote

"When someone uncovers a scandal in their company, I don't think they can say, 'I didn't know that was going on.' They're just saying they're too dumb to do their job! And if they really are too dumb, then why are they getting paid millions of dollars to do it? They know what's going on"

 

[thewolverines24]

Skip to the 5:00 minute mark
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tS9O6UcTuX4

 

[bphillips4gg]

this is a good quote

"When someone uncovers a scandal in their company, I don't think they can say, 'I didn't know that was going on.' They're just saying they're too dumb to do their job! And if they really are too dumb, then why are they getting paid millions of dollars to do it? They know what's going on"

No it's not. It just illustrates that person is out of touch with the real world. Employees do shady stuff to make themselves look better all the time and a lot of them get away with it for a long time. That's what all this boils down to, Stallions trying to look better at his job (stealing signals) to his bosses in order to advance his career. That's such an asinine take.

 

[tomdalton22]

No it's not. It just illustrates that person is out of touch with the real world. Employees do shady stuff to make themselves look better all the time and a lot of them get away with it for a long time. That's what all this boils down to, Stallions trying to look better at his job (stealing signals) to his bosses in order to advance his career. That's such an asinine take.

I just thought it was funny because it was a Bo Schembechler quote.

 

[thewolverines24]

I just thought it was funny because it was a Bo Schembechler quote.

It REALLY doesn't hold up well for Bo.

 

[Spartanmack]

I just thought it was funny because it was a Bo Schembechler quote.

If you try to apply a quote to uofm or Jim Harbaugh and it doesn't make either or both look good, then it's not a good quote.

 

[michdad1]

https://www.instagram.com/reel/Czcu9EgMGHI/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

 

[thewolverines24]

Michigan is saying it can prove nine other B1G schools sent analysts to record games.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=piJHbGDpD_Y

Call your children and tell them you love them. This news is truly heartbreaking. I guess all we can do is pick up the pieces and begin trying to mend the fabric of society.

 

[tinselwolverine]

Michigan is saying it can prove nine other B1G schools sent analysts to record games.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=piJHbGDpD_Y

Call your children and tell them you love them. This news is truly heartbreaking. I guess all we can do is pick up the pieces and begin trying to mend the fabric of society.

You?re not wrong. The B1G has gotten too cute by half.

It?s fairly unrelated, but by insisting to expand to the West Coast, our conference has caused significant damage to college athletics.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QuoKNZjr8_U&pp=ygUcZnJhbmtlbnN0ZWluIGl0J3MgYWxpdmUgY2xpcA==

Just like what happened after the clip, it?s going to be a colossal fail.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Zw5pmDgWMaU&pp=ygUjZnJhbmtlbnN0ZWluIHZpbGxhZ2VycyB3aXRoIHRvcmNoZXM=

 

[Mitchrapp]

So their reasoning.. 'Yeah we cheated but so did everyone else?'

 

[tinselwolverine]

So their reasoning.. 'Yeah we cheated but so did everyone else?'

That would be my argument.

That would be my story, and I would be stickin? to it.

 

[thewolverines24]

So their reasoning.. 'Yeah we cheated but so did everyone else?'

The reasoning is to show how pointless this circus is. Even the NCAA considered getting rid of the advanced scouting rule in 2021 because it provides "minimal competitive advantage".

OSU had our signs before The Game last year and they changed their signals before The Game. How did that work out for them? They got their teeth kicked in. Almost like it didn't matter at all.

OSU and Rutgers gave Purdue our signals. That's probably the sole reason why Purdue is the reigning B1G champs.

 

[Mitchrapp]

The reasoning is to show how pointless this circus is. Even the NCAA considered getting rid of the advanced scouting rule in 2021 because it provides "minimal competitive advantage".

OSU had our signs before The Game last year and they changed their signals before The Game. How did that work out for them? They got their teeth kicked in. Almost like it didn't matter at all.

OSU and Rutgers gave Purdue our signals. That's probably the sole reason why Purdue is the reigning B1G champs.

Agree that it has little advantage and the rule is dumb. But it is still a rule.

 

[thewolverines24]

Agree that it has little advantage and the rule is dumb. But it is still a rule.

Just like the speed limit. Pretty much the equivalent here.

 

[Mitchrapp]

Just like the speed limit. Pretty much the equivalent here.

When I was in college driving on campus got stopped going 12MPH in a 10MPH posted speed limit. I had to pay a fee.

 

[Mitchrapp]

I should say that with the small impact it has teams should get a stern warning and nothing more.

 

[Michchamp]

When I was in college driving on campus got stopped going 12MPH in a 10MPH posted speed limit. I had to pay a fee.

guy who did this resigned and lost his dream job, so yeah.

Probably all for no reason, although maybe Stalions would've gone on to do something really stupid, and so we dodged a bullet.

I feel like this whole thing is going to die down over the next couple weeks with us only getting a written reprimand, and the rules changing for everyone.

 

[Michchamp]

Heather Dinich of ESPN reporting that the Big Ten will have their response to the "scandal" this afternoon.