Stupid Tigers Trade Porcello for Cespedes + trade Suarez for Simple Simon from reds

[spockmaster]

We're all kidding ourselves if we think Gose is actually going to hit at the bottom of the lineup like he should. Ausmus isnt smart enough to do that, he'll go "ZOMG SPEED" and hit him leadoff because he's a moron. Theres a CHANCE he might do something smart like hit VMart 2nd, but I'm betting he won't. But we have to remember we're talking about the manager who hit Davis at the top vs RHP a lot and who kept hitting Kinsler leadoff despite his abysmal OBP and 2nd half.

 

[mhughes0021]

It is comical the number of ignorant posters that slot Porcello as a #5 starter. Really, do you even have a metric that defines the differences between a #1, #2, #3, #4 or #5? Because by all sabermetric accounts, Porcello has been a low #3 with last year showing possibilities of a #2. Maybe it is one of those eye test things. He is only 25 after all.

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He was our #5 last year. Boom....mind blown

 

[Thumb]

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He was our #5 last year. Boom....mind blown

So by your logic David Price is a # 3.

 

[mhughes0021]

So by your logic David Price is a # 3.

2. Jv is now a 3.

 

[spockmaster]

The slot he pitches in our rotation =/= his talent level. We have a stupid good top of the rotation, relegating Porcello to 4/5 in our rotation when hes at least a #3 talent. On Boston, he's basically their ace because their rotation is shit.

 

[Mitchrapp]

Yeah no kidding..

It is possible to have 2 1's, or 2 2's/3's.

 

[lonesometiger]

Ricky sucked ass. Decent bounce back season last year....but In your terms were arguing about losing a great #5 pitcher? Really? The only thing ricky has ever been good at is throwing 3 strong innings then getting shelled in the 4th. Over and over and over and over again...

Needed an of...we got one. If were relying on our 5th sp then were already doomed.

Rick being our #5 starter. Please in lighten me what/who other #5 starter won 15 games last season?

 

[lonesometiger]

We're all kidding ourselves if we think Gose is actually going to hit at the bottom of the lineup like he should. Ausmus isnt smart enough to do that, he'll go "ZOMG SPEED" and hit him leadoff because he's a moron. Theres a CHANCE he might do something smart like hit VMart 2nd, but I'm betting he won't. But we have to remember we're talking about the manager who hit Davis at the top vs RHP a lot and who kept hitting Kinsler leadoff despite his abysmal OBP and 2nd half.

Let Gose be the 4th OF!

 

[Mitchrapp]

He thinks if he pitched as the number 5 guy he must be a number 5 starter. He probably thinks Miggy is the 3rd best position player we have..

 

[Thumb]

The slot he pitches in our rotation =/= his talent level. We have a stupid good top of the rotation, relegating Porcello to 4/5 in our rotation when hes at least a #3 talent. On Boston, he's basically their ace because their rotation is shit.

With a new pitching coach and strong IF defense....I would not be surprised to see Rick improve greatly.

 

[spockmaster]

Let Gose be the 4th OF!

He kinda is, he and Davis will platoon CF now, so whichever isnt playing that day will be the 4th OF.

 

[nsonnett14]

Rick being our #5 starter. Please in lighten me what/who other #5 starter won 15 games last season?

Well according to everyone on here , Simon is just an ok #5 starter and guess how may games he won ?? 15

 

[spockmaster]

With a new pitching coach and strong IF defense....I would not be surprised to see Rick improve greatly.

Maybe. It all depends on if he can consistently get lefties out. He can be a #2 if he figures that out for good.

 

[mhughes0021]

The slot he pitches in our rotation =/= his talent level. We have a stupid good top of the rotation, relegating Porcello to 4/5 in our rotation when hes at least a #3 talent. On Boston, he's basically their ace because their rotation is shit.

So youre bitching about trading a 3 for a corner of and prospects? A 3 we rarely, if ever, use in the postseason.

 

[spockmaster]

Using wins to evaluate pitchers is dumb as hell. Simon belongs in the bullpen, I hope we pick up one more decent starter somewhere.

 

[spockmaster]

So youre bitching about trading a 3 for a corner of and prospects? A 3 we rarely, if ever, use in the postseason.

For that specific outfielder, yes. I don't like Cespedes, I think he's overrated and Reb has already posted a bunch of stats that show he is. Granted, he's better than what we had, which was fucking nothing, but still.

 

[mhughes0021]

Well according to everyone on here , Simon is just an ok #5 starter and guess how may games he won ?? 15

That took a long time to come up with a name....weird...we have one on our team!

#pwned

 

[nsonnett14]

yes wins mean nothing and are a stupid stat ...besides , i was answering his question as to who else won 15 games besides porcello

 

[mhughes0021]

For that specific outfielder, yes. I don't like Cespedes, I think he's overrated and Reb has already posted a bunch of stats that show he is. Granted, he's better than what we had, which was fucking nothing, but still.

Reb posted a bunch of stats that said kinsler wasnt any good either.

 

[Mitchrapp]

So youre bitching about trading a 3 for a corner of and prospects? A 3 we rarely, if ever, use in the postseason.

Prospects? A 28 year old still in the minors and a 19th round pick, SCORE!!