Stupid Tigers Trade Porcello for Cespedes + trade Suarez for Simple Simon from reds

[spockmaster]

Frankly, I dont like Kinsler that much either, Ive been hoping we'd trade him for a nice haul. Hopefully he can still provide something close to the defense he did this year and that he doesnt suck as much as he did the 2nd half of the year.

 

[Mitchrapp]

And a COF who's starting to hit like 2B.

 

[mhughes0021]

I can show a bunch of stats that show pocello is a shitty pitcher after the 4th inning....like one of the worst on the planet.

 

[Mitchrapp]

Btw, Spock - nice avatar.

 

[spockmaster]

I can show a bunch of stats that show pocello is a shitty pitcher after the 4th inning....like one of the worst on the planet.

Do it then.

Btw, Spock - nice avatar.

Thanks, I got if off twitter.

 

[nsonnett14]

I can show a bunch of stats that show pocello is a shitty pitcher after the 4th inning....like one of the worst on the planet.

Its amazing how people let this slip through their minds , every freaking game he would be lights out or 3 to 4 innings and then BOOM , he would get lit the fuck up . I dont see why anyone thinks he is even that good . He had one decent half a year in his whole career and people think hes god

 

[spockmaster]

Don't get me wrong, I think he's overrated too. He's about a #3, maybe a #4 on his bad days, some people got way too excited about his year this year and started to think he could be a #2 (like Boston thinks he is, given their current rotation.) We were right to try to sell high. I just dont like what we got in return.

 

[Mitchrapp]

But we do have a 28 year old prospect..and a 19th round pick..who wasn't even a mid Sox prospect.

 

[Thumb]

Its amazing how people let this slip through their minds , every freaking game he would be lights out or 3 to 4 innings and then BOOM , he would get lit the fuck up . I dont see why anyone thinks he is even that good . He had one decent half a year in his whole career and people think hes god

Funny when we make the same argument about Cespedes you don't seem to think that matters.

 

[nsonnett14]

Funny when we make the same argument about Cespedes you don't seem to think that matters.

because that argument is ridiculous . You're saying Cespedes has had only 1/2 of a year thats been good in his career ?

 

[Mitchrapp]

He hasn't had any good half since 2012.

 

[nsonnett14]

He hasn't had any good half since 2012.

Now you;re just being silly . Look i get it , its your schtick to be the board bozo , but dont you get tired of looking like a moron ? You're my favorite type of poster ,i dont even have to do anything to make ya look like a fool , you do it to yourself haha . Good work bud

 

[spockmaster]

Cespedes: (OPS, wOBA, wRC+)

2012 1st half: .790, .340, 118
2012 2nd half: .909, .386, 149

2013 1st half: .713, .308, 95
2013 2nd half: .769, .332, 112

2014 1st half: .741, .322, 109
2014 2nd half: .764, .331, 110



He's been a bit above average at best in 4 of 6 halves in his 3 years. His 1st half 2012 I'd say was good, and his 2nd half that year was great. Since then? Slightly above average at best for a corner outfielder. Also, its clear he's a 2nd half hitter.

 

[sggatecl]

Now you;re just being silly . Look i get it , its your schtick to be the board bozo , but dont you get tired of looking like a moron ? You're my favorite type of poster ,i dont even have to do anything to make ya look like a fool , you do it to yourself haha . Good work bud

 

[mhughes0021]

im not even saying cespedes is great.....im saying what we had at COF sucked real real bad. Everyone on here knew it was a major need and when we give up a reliable #4 to get a COF everyone freaks out lol. That was rickys best attribute....that he was good for 30 + games a year...reliable. Hed lose more than half of them with what has been consistently the best offense in baseball for like the last 3 years.

 

[mhughes0021]

Cespedes: (OPS, wOBA, wRC+)

2012 1st half: .790, .340, 118
2012 2nd half: .909, .386, 149

2013 1st half: .713, .308, 95
2013 2nd half: .769, .332, 112

2014 1st half: .741, .322, 109
2014 2nd half: .764, .331, 110



He's been a bit above average at best in 4 of 6 halves in his 3 years. His 1st half 2012 I'd say was good, and his 2nd half that year was great. Since then? Slightly above average at best for a corner outfielder. Also, its clear he's a 2nd half hitter.

last I checked we could use a second half hitter. And ricky has never been above average....ever.

 

[spockmaster]

He'll certainly be better than what we had. A tackling dummy would have been better. I just dont like Cespedes.


Edit: Getting a hitter because they hit in a certain half is asinine. If you just wanted a 2nd half hitter, we should have stuck with fucking Raburn (career 2nd half: .832, .360, 122).

 

[nsonnett14]

Cespedes: (OPS, wOBA, wRC+)

2012 1st half: .790, .340, 118
2012 2nd half: .909, .386, 149

2013 1st half: .713, .308, 95
2013 2nd half: .769, .332, 112

2014 1st half: .741, .322, 109
2014 2nd half: .764, .331, 110



He's been a bit above average at best in 4 of 6 halves in his 3 years. His 1st half 2012 I'd say was good, and his 2nd half that year was great. Since then? Slightly above average at best for a corner outfielder. Also, its clear he's a 2nd half hitter.

Now see , thats a fair assessment backed by facts . I can accept that , mitch is just dumb so i dont give him much thought

 

[biggunsbob]

At first the trade bugged me but now not so much.. It does hurt that Rick is young. He has a ton of wins but I am just not sure about him... There are some valid reason both pro and con his way... We got some starters to replace him... We did need a outfielder and while YC has plenty of holes in his game he did drive in 100 runs last year.. yes I would like him to have a better obp.. I am sure everyone on here would. But he will see better pitches in this lineup I think .. Is there really any outfielders out there.. Pickings are slim. I am ok with the deal.. I wasn't at first but we all know as constructed the team had just a slim shot at winning a WS.. Maybe YC in his contract year goes off... Heck JD did last year..

 

[Mitchrapp]

110 OPS+ is slightly above average so like I said he hasn't had a good 2nd half since 2012.