Supreme Court strikes down same-sex marriage bans

[tomdalton22]

No, that would be incest, which has nothing to do with this topic.

Im going to assume you made that post as a tongue-in-cheek question, because otherwise...goddamn.....:nuts:

who said anything about sex...we are talking about marriage between two people that love each other

 

[tomdalton22]

I guess that will be next...same sex marriage between family members. Maybe a dad should be able to marry his daughter as long as he or she gets "fixed"

 

[byco42]

Now that marriage is an equivocated term, the possibilities are practically bespoke. And anyone who opposes the next iteration of the institution better be prepared to be labeled "reactionary," "on the wrong side of history" (and THAT is incredibly ironic), "haters," and "bigots."

 

[turok]

"One study asked heterosexal men how comfortable and anxious they are around gay men. Based on these scores, they then divided these men into two groups: men that are homophobic, and men who are not. These men were then shown three, four-minute videos. One video depicted straight sex, one depicted lesbian sex and one depicted gay male sex. While this was happening, a device was attached to each participant's penis. This device has been found to be triggered by sexual arousal, but not other types of arousal (such as nervousness, or fear - arousal often has a very different meaning in psychology than in popular usage)."

"When viewing lesbian sex and straight sex, both the homophobic and the non-homophobic men showed increased penis circumference. For gay male sex, however, only the homophobic men showed heightened penis arousal."


"Heterosexual men with the most anti-gay attitudes, when asked, reported not being sexually aroused by gay male sex videos. But, their penises reported otherwise."




Homophobic Men Most Aroused by Gay Male Porn

 

[Monster]

Now that marriage is an equivocated term, the possibilities are practically bespoke. And anyone who opposes the next iteration of the institution better be prepared to be labeled "reactionary," "on the wrong side of history" (and THAT is incredibly ironic), "haters," and "bigots."

Ah yes. This happened decades ago when interracial marriage was legalized. Those poor barmen who wouldn't serve a black and white couple. Boo hoo. Oh, and when slavery was abolished, those poor, poor slavers who made money off of buying and selling black people and the plantation owners...GASP! They took away their GOD GIVEN rights to own a person. And they were treated so poorly afterward. Let's not forget to mention when women were given the right to vote. Jeez...those men who were sooooo against women voting were just so sad. Gosh Darn it, they were pretty much forced out of the country. Most importantly, let's not forget about the schools that were forced to bring together black and white kids. I sympathize with those KKK wannabes who tried desperately to stop the change. God gave them dominion over the world, dontcha know? They are the superior race.

Sarcasm over.

Now, let's be real. Stop watching Pat Robertson and people like him. Turn off Fox News and the Glenn Becks of the world. Discrimination is discrimination and it can not be tolerated in a civilized society. Every time this country has allowed hate to flourish, something bad happens. WW2 with Japanese Americans and basically any Asian who might appear to be Japanese in disgusting camps, rounded up like cattle. The race riots, police brutality, the actual KKK, American Indians, "Witches", etc. Hateful thoughts are your right, but that doesn't mean the rest of us can't oppose you.

Look, read something about the law in this country. Religious institutions can already deny wedding ceremonies to whomever they want for any fucking reason. That's not going to change. The only thing that does change is that states are no longer allowed to deny marriage licenses to people who marry the same gender.

For years now in many different countries and even states here in America, gay marriage has been legal. NO-FUDGING-BODY has been hurt by it. Not one straight person. Not a single business. Even the businesses that have recently said they will not sell to a gay married couple haven't suffered. That one pizza place that shut itself down because of a bunch of angry yelp reviews (that's the free market, yo.) shut down and then got over a million dollars in donations from Christians. And they didn't even really have to shut down. They would have survived just fine and you know it. There are other businesses that also spoke up and took a bit of heat and bounced right back.

Your religion is not the only religion out there. It is not the only belief system and for people like you to say everybody else has to follow it because it makes you feel icky...that's pretty farkled up.

Oh and funny you people for comparing this biscuit to incest. Seriously. There are obvious medical and moral (non-religious moral too) reasons for that to not exist.

Again, gay marriage has existed in this country for years now. I've yet to hear anybody in any of the states have a legit experience with their freedom being taken away. This isn't going to hurt you. It's not going to affect you. Well, unless you've secretly wanted a giant panda inside of you for the rest of your life. In that case, you can put a ring on it!

EDITED FOR SMALL CHILDREN AND UNICORNS.

 

[Monster]

"One study asked heterosexal men how comfortable and anxious they are around gay men. Based on these scores, they then divided these men into two groups: men that are homophobic, and men who are not. These men were then shown three, four-minute videos. One video depicted straight sex, one depicted lesbian sex and one depicted gay male sex. While this was happening, a device was attached to each participant's penis. This device has been found to be triggered by sexual arousal, but not other types of arousal (such as nervousness, or fear - arousal often has a very different meaning in psychology than in popular usage)."

"When viewing lesbian sex and straight sex, both the homophobic and the non-homophobic men showed increased penis circumference. For gay male sex, however, only the homophobic men showed heightened penis arousal."


"Heterosexual men with the most anti-gay attitudes, when asked, reported not being sexually aroused by gay male sex videos. But, their penises reported otherwise."




Homophobic Men Most Aroused by Gay Male Porn

So...what you're saying is that you want my body?

 

[byco42]

Ah yes. This happened decades ago when interracial marriage was legalized. Those poor barmen who wouldn't serve a black and white couple. Boo hoo. Oh, and when slavery was abolished, those poor, poor slavers who made money off of buying and selling black people and the plantation owners...GASP! They took away their GOD GIVEN rights to own a person. And they were treated so poorly afterward. Let's not forget to mention when women were given the right to vote. Jeez...those men who were sooooo against women voting were just so sad. Damn, they were pretty much forced out of the country. Most importantly, let's not forget about the schools that were forced to bring together black and white kids. I sympathize with those KKK wannabes who tried desperately to stop the change. God gave them dominion over the world, dontcha know? They are the superior race.

Sarcasm over.

Now, let's be real. Stop watching Pat Robertson and people like him. Turn off Fox News and the Glenn Becks of the world. Discrimination is discrimination and it can not be tolerated in a civilized society. Every time this country has allowed hate to flourish, something bad happens. WW2 with Japanese Americans and basically any Asian who might appear to be Japanese in disgusting camps, rounded up like cattle. The race riots, police brutality, the actual KKK, American Indians, "Witches", etc. Hateful thoughts are your right, but that doesn't mean the rest of us can't oppose you.

Look, read something about the law in this country. Religious institutions can already deny wedding ceremonies to whomever they want for any fucking reason. That's not going to change. The only thing that does change is that states are no longer allowed to deny marriage licenses to people who marry the same gender.

For years now in many different countries and even states here in America, gay marriage has been legal. NO-FUCKING-BODY has been hurt by it. Not one straight person. Not a single business. Even the businesses that have recently said they will not sell to a gay married couple haven't suffered. That one pizza place that shut itself down because of a bunch of angry yelp reviews (that's the free market, yo.) shut down and then got over a million dollars in donations from Christians. And they didn't even really have to shut down. They would have survived just fine and you know it. There are other businesses that also spoke up and took a bit of heat and bounced right back.

Your religion is not the only religion out there. It is not the only belief system and for people like you to say everybody else has to follow it because it makes you feel icky...that's pretty fucked up.

Oh and fuck you people for comparing this shit to incest. Seriously. There are obvious medical and moral (non-religious moral too) reasons for that to not exist.

Again, gay marriage has existed in this country for years now. I've yet to hear anybody in any of the states have a legit experience with their freedom being taken away. This isn't going to hurt you. It's not going to affect you. Well, unless you've secretly wanted a giant penis inside of you for the rest of your life. In that case, you can put a ring on it!

I'd ask that, as a moderator, you might consider editing all the profanity from this opinion. I'll read it then.

 

[Monster]

I'd ask that, as a moderator, you might consider editing all the profanity from this opinion. I'll read it then.

Oh no...

The good Catholic boy is offended by words? Grow up, man. This is the Politics section and there are no rules against profanity.

Wait...I'll edit. Excuse me. I wouldn't want to hurt your feelings...

 

[byco42]

Oh no...

The good Catholic boy is offended by words? Grow up, man. This is the Politics section and there are no rules against profanity.

Wait...I'll edit. Excuse me. I wouldn't want to hurt your feelings...

Maybe you might consider that it's a more mature approach to express your ideas without the needless profanity. Unsolicited advice that you are free to discount. It offends the Blessed Mother. Probably yours as well, were she to read it.

 

[Monster]

Fully edited. I hope i didn't miss a curse word.

 

[tinselwolverine]

I'd ask that, as a moderator, you might consider editing all the profanity from this opinion. I'll read it then.

I'm amused that you replicated the profanity in your request that it be removed.

 

[Monster]

Maybe you might consider that it's a more mature approach to express your ideas without the needless profanity. Unsolicited advice that you are free to discount. It offends the Blessed Mother. Probably yours as well, were she to read it.

Oh, mature is a very strong word. I call a grown man comparing two men getting married to incest, pedophilia, and bestiality immature. So I apologize for being angry when my Sister's marriage is compared to something so disgusting. I believe cursing is probably the least I can do.

 

[byco42]

I'm amused that you replicated the profanity in your request that it be removed.

A clerical error.

 

[byco42]

Oh, mature is a very strong word. I call a grown man comparing two men getting married to incest, pedophilia, and bestiality immature. So I apologize for being angry when my Sister's marriage is compared to something so disgusting. I believe cursing is probably the least I can do.

How could a brother and a sister you do not know who love each other and want to get married affect you in any way?

And you offered the term "comparison." I am not "comparing"; I am "projecting."

 

[turok]

So...what you're saying is that you want my body?

Dunno, but if you are willing to have gay sex with a webcam recording it, and upload it to You Porn with a link, I will PM you to let you know one way or the other....

 

[Michchamp]

... Many claim not to hate LGBTs, and shroud their hypocrisy in history, past practice, and religion.

...

Just tack on "...and I have friends who are gay..."* to any bigoted opinion and voila, you're no longer a bigot, but a man of principle concerned by this bizarre new trend called homosexuality that will ruin our society's moral fiber/very fabric/honor/sense of duty/take-your-pick.







*does not have to be true. how will anyone check this out?

 

[Monster]

How could a brother and a sister you do not know who love each other and want to get married affect you in any way?

And you offered the term "comparison." I am not "comparing"; I am "projecting."

Really? You don't need a god to figure this out. There are medical issues that can arise with a child of such a union and there are medical issues that can come about from just having sex. There are ethical issues as well. If you need me to spell those out for you, we have some serious problems.

While it may not affect me personally, it does affect the next generation. Genetic diversity is a very important part of life. And while gay people can not reproduce, they are also not hurting the population.

 

[Monster]

Dunno, but if you are willing to have gay sex with a webcam recording it, and upload it to You Porn with a link, I will PM you to let you know one way or the other....

LMFAO. no. Not willing to do that. But there is a straight video of me when I was a teenager out there somewhere. The girl is really hot, too. I saw the original copy and I'm told that it was later put on the internet, but I really hope it was lost somehow.

 

[Monster]

Just tack on "...and I have friends who are gay..."* to any bigoted opinion and voila, you're no longer a bigot, but a man of principle concerned by this bizarre new trend called homosexuality that will ruin our society's moral fiber/very fabric/honor/sense of duty/take-your-pick.







*does not have to be true. how will anyone check this out?

My favorite is, "I don't hate the sinner. I hate the sin. I pray for them."

Edit: And also, "I don't hate gay people. It's God's judgment. Not mine."

 

[byco42]

Really? You don't need a god to figure this out. There are medical issues that can arise with a child of such a union and there are medical issues that can come about from just having sex. There are ethical issues as well. If you need me to spell those out for you, we have some serious problems.

But there are no ethical issues with homosexual unions and sexuality. Says you. Someone else can claim there are no ethical issues with incestuous unions and sexuality, so long as there are no children that result. Which can easily be arranged. #lovewins, right?

While it may not affect me personally, it does affect the next generation. Genetic diversity is a very important part of life. And while gay people can not reproduce, they are also not hurting the population.

So two brothers can get married? Because why should their right to marry each other be compromised by the mere opinion of someone else? Especially when no children can result? And the kids they adopt? (since they cannot be discriminated against) The main defense I keep reading is "it won't affect me." Until you have to explain to your own kids why such a union is legal without expressing any moral judgement over it. Because that will not be tolerated.