Supreme Court strikes down same-sex marriage bans

[dubbsco]

That's not going to happen. Have people been sued or jailed because they didn't like a certain race, gender, etc? That's what makes this country great. You can express your thoughts, no matter how bigoted. And you have the right to have those thoughts blasted by others.

This law has nothing to do with changing your rights as an American. It has everything to do with giving EVERYONE the equal opportunity to enjoy the benefits we all have had. And so I'll go ahead, using my rights as an American and blast anyone who thinks those individuals should not be entitled to equality. It's a 100 percent antiquated way of thinking, it belongs in the Roman era.

 

[Michchamp]

Well, I predict that in the near future that we will not be allowed to even express our opposition to same-sex "marriage" without being sued, deprived of employment or even jailed. Orwellian, to be sure, but nothing in the way of prevailing public opinion indicates that we are heading on any other path.

And what you consider as discrimination, I consider, in these circumstances, as religious expression muted or compromised.

Well, I don't agree with you.

Though being able to sue anyone for anything is not necessarily a bad thing. It's important to have a robust legal forum with which resolve disputes. Sure it leads to some absurd headlines now and again, but let me know when a judge or jury finds against someone for expressing protected speech..

 

[tinselwolverine]

Well, I predict that in the near future that we will not be allowed to even express our opposition to same-sex "marriage" without being sued, deprived of employment or even jailed.

Well, we're in the fifth decade since Rowe v Wade and I don't see anybody being sued or jailed for voicing opposition to abortion; and I don't see any reason to believe that that is gonna happen anytime soon...

I don't know of a single time a person has been put in jail for claiming that any Supreme Court decision was wrong...

So I don't know why it's going to be any different in this case...

 

[byco42]

That's not going to happen. Have people been sued or jailed because they didn't like a certain race, gender, etc? That's what makes this country great. You can express your thoughts, no matter how bigoted. And you have the right to have those thoughts blasted by others.

And in the case of Waco, literally "blasted."

This law has nothing to do with changing your rights as an American. It has everything to do with giving EVERYONE the equal opportunity to enjoy the benefits we all have had. And so I'll go ahead, using my rights as an American and blast anyone who thinks those individuals should not be entitled to equality. It's a 100 percent antiquated way of thinking, it belongs in the Roman era.

We are in the Roman Era, albeit I more benign iteration of it. Actually, not at all. We slaughter the unborn with righteous gusto. And "celebrate" the notion of same-sex "marriage." Our morals are in the proverbial dumpster.

 

[dubbsco]

Let me ask you this question. What makes you upset that everyone gets equal rights? Are you just following the lead of your church? Or do YOU, you the person honestly believe that gay people are not entitled to a fair share of the pie. If you can't give a legitimate answer without quoting the church and following their lead, I'm sorry to hear it.

 

[byco42]

Let me ask you this question. What makes you upset that everyone gets equal rights?

Rights are not some thing you "get"; they are inalienable. Marriage is not a constitutional "right"; regardless of the Supreme Court's arbitrary decision to the contrary.

Are you just following the lead of your church? Or do YOU, you the person honestly believe that gay people are not entitled to a fair share of the pie. If you can't give a legitimate answer without quoting the church and following their lead, I'm sorry to hear it.

I believe that Marriage is a Covenant between God and one man and one woman, indissoluble unto death. I believe in God, so who's alternate "version" of marriage should I consider? And this ruling, as you have demonstrated, has nothing to do with marriage qua marriage. It has to do with getting the government boonies and with legitimating the notion that same-sex partners are on equal footing with a man in a woman joined in matrimony. They are not, no matter what the prevailing laws or opinions dictate.

 

[dubbsco]

Rights are absolutely things you are entitled to! Why else do you think people want to flee their countries and come to America?? Because they have rights here that a lot of other countries do not allow. People have the right to love whoever they want, and they have the right to equal treatment. You are no better than a homosexual as a heterosexual male.

So, no. It came back to religion. All you had to say. There are lots of things in the Bible that would never be practiced in today's world. It's okay to be religious and still have doubts about some of the way things are done.

 

[Thumb]

So Byco, what is your opinion on the marriage of a man and a woman who are either Atheist or some form of Pagan religion? Is it the same abomination you seem to be so upset about with same-sex marriages?

Funny that we have never heard you rant about government performed civil ceremonies before, which would also seem to violate your holy definition of marriage.

 

[byco42]

So Byco, what is your opinion on the marriage of a man and a woman who are either Atheist or some form of Pagan religion? Is it the same abomination you seem to be so upset about with same-sex marriages?

No. And "abomination" is not my term for same-sex "marriages." I am not certain of you chose that consciously or not. "Opposition" is my chosen term. Abortion, however, is an "abomination." No other word will do.

Funny that we have never heard you rant about government performed civil ceremonies before, which would also seem to violate your holy definition of marriage.

At least the genders are opposite. There is always the possibility of any married man and woman to be married in the Church, if they accept all its Truth and the obligations that come with that choice.

 

[byco42]

Rights are absolutely things you are entitled to! Why else do you think people want to flee their countries and come to America?? Because they have rights here that a lot of other countries do not allow. People have the right to love whoever they want, and they have the right to equal treatment. You are no better than a homosexual as a heterosexual male.

Are you aware that petitions to marriage can be denied?

So, no. It came back to religion. All you had to say. There are lots of things in the Bible that would never be practiced in today's world. It's okay to be religious and still have doubts about some of the way things are done.

It came back to God, who is eternal.

 

[dubbsco]

Having a marriage petition being denied for something has absolutely nothing to do with a human's rights. Every human has the RIGHT to be married, no matter what sexuality they are. If their petition is denied because something is not up to snuff, that's a COMPLETELY separate issue.

That's fine. You are more than welcome to believe in God. But do you think God, who loves EVERYONE equally would deny someone the right to be happy? No.

 

[byco42]

Having a marriage petition being denied for something has absolutely nothing to do with a human's rights. Every human has the RIGHT to be married, no matter what sexuality they are. If their petition is denied because something is not up to snuff, that's a COMPLETELY separate issue.

Help me understand how a marriage petition denied does not violate the "inalienable right" to be married. Why should people even have to apply for marriage? Why can't they do what Inman and Ada did in Cold Mountain?

That's fine. You are more than welcome to believe in God. But do you think God, who loves EVERYONE equally would deny someone the right to be happy? No.

God made man and woman for a purpose. He also extended us the free will to abuse that purpose. Based on what God and Jesus have said on the topic of marriage, there is no room to interpret that the covenant was ever designed for two people of the same sex.

 

[Monster]

Belief can not make law. Laws cannot change belief. So all of your talk about your definition of marriage is useless. The real slippery slope here is allowing non-religious institutions to discriminate based on their belief. It would open it up for anybody to discriminate against anybody.

Hold your belief as tightly as you wish, but unless your belief has to be mine as well, you have no right to deny my sister her marriage just as i have no right to stop you from disagreeing with it.

 

[Monster]

And all this ruling means is that the STATE can not deny marriage licenses. It does not require religious instutions to perform ceremonies. The fact that religious people are upset over this is odd to me. The state granting license is not an automatic slap in God's face. If your preacher marries a couple of fags, maybe you should turn your disapproval to them.

 

[turok]

I believe that most conservatives are opposed to gay marriage b/c of the legal & financial benefits that are derived from it. But they won't say that outright through the MSM, and I have read as much in posts on other rightwing websites. Many claim not to hate LGBTs, and shroud their hypocrisy in history, past practice, and religion.

b/c socialist taxes, "also too"

 

[TheVictors]

About damn time.

 

[tomdalton22]

So, can a man marry his of age son or a woman marry her of age daughter?

 

[turok]

So, can a man marry his of age son or a woman marry her of age daughter?

The slippery slope chimes in.

 

[Thumb]

So, can a man marry his of age son or a woman marry her of age daughter?

No, that would be incest, which has nothing to do with this topic.

Im going to assume you made that post as a tongue-in-cheek question, because otherwise...goddamn.....:nuts:

 

[turok]

So, can a man marry his of age son or a woman marry her of age daughter?

Yeah, if they are the progeny of his or her spouse and their former spouses, or are adopted.

Ask Woody Allen.