Supreme Court strikes down same-sex marriage bans

[Michchamp]

how did incest even come up in this discussion? wtf??

 

[Monster]

how did incest even come up in this discussion? wtf??

Slippery slope...and all that good stuff. You know how Conservatives get pissed off when we talk about a slippery slope with guns? We start talking about owning nukes and tanks and they freak out and get angry that we'd take it that far? Yeah, I think they forgot how stupid it sounds when we say that because they use it quite well with gay marriage. And I don't see anyone getting pissed off because the sin of divorce is legal? And shit...everybody's doing THAT. "Divorce today? Murdering small children tomorrow! Slippery slope!"

 

[Monster]

Until you have to explain to your own kids why such a union is legal without expressing any moral judgement over it. Because that will not be tolerated.

Funny. My son is 8. I actually ran into this issue after he saw two guys kissing on TV a few days ago.

Him: A look of confusion.

Me: "What's wrong?"

Him: "I don't like to see kissing." - This is true. He doesn't even watch a boy and girl kiss.

Me: "You look confused"

Him: "They were both boys."

Me: "And? Do you think that boys shouldn't kiss?"

Him: "I don't want to kiss any boys."

Me: Jokingly I said, "But girls???"

Him: Turning red and doing the embarrassed face, "NO!"

That's when I asked him if he knew what "gay" meant. He said no and I calmly explained that some boys liked to kiss other boys and sometimes they would fall in love. The same with two girls.

Him: "And then they get married?"

Me: "Actually, that's why those two men were kissing. They were just told that they were able to get married."

Him: "Okay." And then he ran off to play Minecraft. And yesterday, we were in the mall and he saw two girls holding hands. When we left, he asked me if they were gay. I said yes, probably, but maybe they were just friends because sometimes girls will do that. Again, he said "Okay" and that was that.

It's a pretty simple thing if you have a brain.


And no, I won't be responding anymore to your comparison to incest. You are equating two very different things to push forward your agenda and it's not going to work.

 

[tinselwolverine]

But there are no ethical issues with homosexual unions and sexuality. Says you. Someone else can claim there are no ethical issues with incestuous unions and sexuality, so long as there are no children that result. Which can easily be arranged. #lovewins, right?



So two brothers can get married? Because why should their right to marry each other be compromised by the mere opinion of someone else? Especially when no children can result? And the kids they adopt? (since they cannot be discriminated against) The main defense I keep reading is "it won't affect me." Until you have to explain to your own kids why such a union is legal without expressing any moral judgement over it. Because that will not be tolerated.

I worked on this reality television show produced by CBS (it only ever ended up being aired in overseas markets) about this young chick who had moved in with some dude in West Lake Village (hoity toity place in Ventura County; Angelo Mazilo lives there and a bunch of celebs) and the dude was her dad's age AND had moved back in with his parents. The chick's dad hated it; and the premise was kind of her trying to get her dad to accept it.

Anyway, there were these two gay twin brothers, and the whole time off camera they were trying to corner this chick and carry on and on about how their situation being gay was similar to hers.

I don't think they had any sexual interest in each other though; they would talk about their relationships with their respective partners.

I guess maybe two gay twin narcissists could fall in love with each other, I don't know.

 

[turok]

If two adult brothers or two sisters wished to marry, I would be okay with that. But not wedded unions between two closely related adult individuals of the oppo-sex with the intent or potential of producing progeny, due to the greatly increased likelihood of miscarriages, the infant(s) suffering major blood disorders, and inheriting severe genetic abnormalities.

Ancient royalty, in particular, was historically notorious for doing this.

 

[tinselwolverine]

If two adult brothers or two sisters wished to marry, I would be okay with that. But not wedded unions between two closely related adult individuals of the oppo-sex with the intent or potential of producing progeny, due to the greatly increased likelihood of miscarriages, the infant(s) suffering major blood disorders, and inheriting severe genetic abnormalities.

Ancient royalty, in particular, was historically notorious for doing this.

Any siblings who wished to marry I would refer to counseling.

Unless they were Ancient Royalty and it were cultural law.

But I would advise them of the dangers to their progeny.

 

[TheVictors]

Funny. My son is 8. I actually ran into this issue after he saw two guys kissing on TV a few days ago.

Him: A look of confusion.

Me: "What's wrong?"

Him: "I don't like to see kissing." - This is true. He doesn't even watch a boy and girl kiss.

Me: "You look confused"

Him: "They were both boys."

Me: "And? Do you think that boys shouldn't kiss?"

Him: "I don't want to kiss any boys."

Me: Jokingly I said, "But girls???"

Him: Turning red and doing the embarrassed face, "NO!"

That's when I asked him if he knew what "gay" meant. He said no and I calmly explained that some boys liked to kiss other boys and sometimes they would fall in love. The same with two girls.

Him: "And then they get married?"

Me: "Actually, that's why those two men were kissing. They were just told that they were able to get married."

Him: "Okay." And then he ran off to play Minecraft. And yesterday, we were in the mall and he saw two girls holding hands. When we left, he asked me if they were gay. I said yes, probably, but maybe they were just friends because sometimes girls will do that. Again, he said "Okay" and that was that.

It's a pretty simple thing if you have a brain.


And no, I won't be responding anymore to your comparison to incest. You are equating two very different things to push forward your agenda and it's not going to work.

pretty similar to our experience with our son.

My wife did catch him with the TV remote a few months ago rewinding the scene from Christmas Vacation where Chevy fantasizes about having a pool in the backyard ...kept hitting the BackLoop button..

But it was on TBS or maybe USA Network so no full side-boob...

 

[Monster]

Lol perfect. Kids are fun, eh?

 

[Monster]

Hey Byco, maybe you should stop worrying about what happens to churches because of gay couples and worry more about what your people are capable of.

http://www.addictinginfo.org/2015/0...tes-you-for-marrying-queers-videoscreenshots/

 

[tomdalton22]

Hey Byco, maybe you should stop worrying about what happens to churches because of gay couples and worry more about what your people are capable of.

http://www.addictinginfo.org/2015/0...tes-you-for-marrying-queers-videoscreenshots/

Why do you consider the person who wrote this note "his people"?

 

[Gulo Blue]

Why do you consider the person who wrote this note "his people"?

I was going to ask the same thing.

 

[Michchamp]

Why do you consider the person who wrote this note "his people"?

Yeah, Catholics usually aren't as extreme as the Fundamentalist Christians.

Although, the Opus Dei types are.

this is more like tLiar's people. or jdilco's.

 

[Michchamp]

I was going to ask the same thing.

I'm sure you have some neighbors like this though...

 

[turok]

LMAO

 

[byco42]

If two adult brothers or two sisters wished to marry, I would be okay with that. But not wedded unions between two closely related adult individuals of the oppo-sex with the intent or potential of producing progeny, due to the greatly increased likelihood of miscarriages, the infant(s) suffering major blood disorders, and inheriting severe genetic abnormalities.

Ancient royalty, in particular, was historically notorious for doing this.

Would someone in opposition to that "version" of "marriage" be regarded by you as "bigoted" and "hate-filled?"

 

[byco42]

Funny. My son is 8. I actually ran into this issue after he saw two guys kissing on TV a few days ago.

Him: A look of confusion.

Me: "What's wrong?"

Him: "I don't like to see kissing." - This is true. He doesn't even watch a boy and girl kiss.

Me: "You look confused"

Him: "They were both boys."

Me: "And? Do you think that boys shouldn't kiss?"

Him: "I don't want to kiss any boys."

Me: Jokingly I said, "But girls???"

Him: Turning red and doing the embarrassed face, "NO!"

That's when I asked him if he knew what "gay" meant. He said no and I calmly explained that some boys liked to kiss other boys and sometimes they would fall in love. The same with two girls.

Him: "And then they get married?"

Me: "Actually, that's why those two men were kissing. They were just told that they were able to get married."

Him: "Okay." And then he ran off to play Minecraft. And yesterday, we were in the mall and he saw two girls holding hands. When we left, he asked me if they were gay. I said yes, probably, but maybe they were just friends because sometimes girls will do that. Again, he said "Okay" and that was that.

It's a pretty simple thing if you have a brain.


And no, I won't be responding anymore to your comparison to incest. You are equating two very different things to push forward your agenda and it's not going to work.

Your exchange has nothing to do with the question I posed. And I never brought up the topic of incest. You did. I just extended the line of discussion.

 

[turok]

Would someone in opposition to that "version" of "marriage" be regarded by you as "bigoted" and "hate-filled?"

Since the instances of inter-family marriage would be extremely rare, few if any would know about it, except for perhaps some of those who would oppose it b/c they are family, friends, associates, and/or relatives..so..no.

 

[tomdalton22]

Since the instances of inter-family marriage would be extremely rare, few if any would know about it, except for perhaps some of those who would oppose it b/c they are family, friends, associates, and/or relatives..so..no.

so...if you were aware of it or it became somewhat common...how would you feel about it?

 

[Gulo Blue]

I'm sure you have some neighbors like this though...

I know I must, but I can only think of 1 guy, and I'm not saying he comes close to crossing this line. I mean I can only think of 1 guy I'm pretty sure is fundamentalist.

You might be surprised if you do a google image search for "durham nc pride" or something like that. Or maybe Durham is in the south and not the South, I don't know.

 

[turok]

so...if you were aware of it or it became somewhat common...how would you feel about it?

It won't, and you are comparing a bowl of apples to an orange grove.

I made my position on it upthread.

Love between siblings very, very, very rarely would escalate to marriage.