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Get StartedIt really does. Now I understand why TigerMud is often bitter lol. The Red Wings and Pistons have clearly been the most successful professional franchises in Detroit the last 20-30 years here.
It really does. Now I understand why TigerMud is often bitter lol. The Red Wings and Pistons have clearly been the most successful professional franchises in Detroit the last 20-30 years here.
Right. The bad boys and the '04-'06 Piston teams were true Detroit teams too. I think even non-basketball fans would be impressed by the grit those teams played with. Last year, the Pistons put up a hell of a fight against the world champs. Nearly won every game of that series. This is a good time to be a Piston fan. Full of hope.. and they have a great leader/coach, so that helps.
Not sure baseball is a grit sport.
Being a Pistons fan, I still have hope. They are the biggest reason I was able to step aside from the Tigers. I haven't watched a full game since April, and I'm glad.. the Tigers are simply a waste of time.
Depends on the players. It's all about attitude. None of this talking and laughing with the opponents that you see now a days. The Pistons were all about business and hospitality went out the window at the jump.
Couldn't bring myself to watch today. Until Brad and his staff are fired I'll be uninterested.
Brad and the staff aren't the problem
That is your opinion, but it isn't mine. Is the team poorly constructed? Yes. But even then, they have/had the ability to make the playoffs. Just about any other manager makes the playoffs with this team. A manager isn't necessarily going to win games for you, but he certainly can lose them. Brad Ausmus lost games with his decisions (or lack thereof).
I respect your baseball knowledge and enjoy reading your posts but I have to disagree here, or at least make a point as to the degree that Ausmus impacted this team. If you had to make a list of reasons why this team didn't make the playoffs, I'd put managing about 10th. If you look at the fact that we had to put Pelfrey and Sanchez out there 2 out of 5 games, that we dealt with Upton being beyond horrible for all but 6 weeks, got nothing from the bottom of the lineup, lost JD for 6 weeks and had to start Mike Aviles, lost Castellanos and had to play Casey Mcghee, lost Zimmerman for most of the season, etc. You could make the argument that it was shocking that we were able to stay into the race until the last day of the seasons. I know people want someones head on a platter when their team doesn't do well and it's much easier to put it on the manager than the players.
All the things you point to would happen regardless of manager. However, starting Aviles over Collins or Moya is still on Ausmus. He also probably had no choice in starting McCann against RHP, even though DET had a substantial losing record when this happened.
Since Ausmus has become manager, the Detroit Tigers lead all of baseball by a substantial amount in Blown Quality Starts. We have relievers that come to DET and then post their worst career ever. Coincidence? Personally, I don't think so.
Bottom line. While I think Ausmus is a horrible manager, he might have cost maybe 1-2 loses (wins) a year. But it still matters.
If they fire Brad I bet legendary Lloyd becomes the next manager.
and then this board will be all up in arms about his minor role in the teams performance
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