Welcome to Detroit Sports Forum!

By joining our community, you'll be able to connect with fellow fans that live and breathe Detroit sports just like you!

Get Started
  • If you are no longer able to access your account since our recent switch from vBulletin to XenForo, you may need to reset your password via email. If you no longer have access to the email attached to your account, please fill out our contact form and we will assist you ASAP. Thanks for your continued support of DSF.

Tigers vs. redsox Game Thread May 28

Leyland went off on umpires and "accountability." Told media: "You guys need to hold people accountable."

Leyland again to media: "Write that it was a ridiculous call." Fine. It was a ridiculous call.

For record, umpires agree they got the call wrong. Bill Welke: "What looks crystal clear [on video] didn't look crystal clear from 1B line." well FU then.

from danny knobler

I don't understand in today's day and age why there isn't replay. It would take 20 seconds to get that call right. Same with Worth's slide at 2nd base. Everyone sees it anyways, get the call right. Even do something stupid like the NFL and give each manager 2 challenges per game. No challenges for balls and strikes...everything else is challengeable.

Games are too important. Remember the final day of last season? It literally came down to 1 game to make the playoffs for multiple teams. You can't have umps blowing calls that badly only to watch a replay after the game and instantly admit he got the call wrong. Embrace technology and use it.
 
What we need to do is to start keeping track of the screw jobs terrible umpiring have done to cost us games. There's this one, of course. My very bad memory prevents me from remembering the other games, but I believe there was one game against the W Sox or Indians and one game out west - either Seattle or Oakland - where we got hosed. Enough is enough. The first base umpire was simply making it up on the fly. As a former umpire of HS games in Michigan I have to say that I would have been on notice for making such a ridiculous call from behind first base on a 3rd strike. Not saying I'd have been fired, but I would have been placed on notice that those kind of fabrications are unacceptable. Very poor job today by both the HP and first base umpire. This crew has to be better. btw, there were some bad ball-strike calls against the Red Sox as well, but nothing rising to this 'level'.
 
My bad. Forgot the Worth play at second. Ergo, put the 2nd Base ump in the category of bad calls. 1 outta 4 don't cut it.
 
There's nothing like a Tiger loss to make me feel like not watching any more baseball on TV for the rest of the day.
 
I don't understand in today's day and age why there isn't replay. It would take 20 seconds to get that call right. Same with Worth's slide at 2nd base. Everyone sees it anyways, get the call right. Even do something stupid like the NFL and give each manager 2 challenges per game. No challenges for balls and strikes...everything else is challengeable.

Games are too important. Remember the final day of last season? It literally came down to 1 game to make the playoffs for multiple teams. You can't have umps blowing calls that badly only to watch a replay after the game and instantly admit he got the call wrong. Embrace technology and use it.

Jim has a set of nuts on him, eh. "Hold people accountable"? Sure, motherfucker! Just like when you run out that putz Raburn every fn day? Fuck off!!
 
Last edited:
Leyland criticized Mudhen's hitting after the game too. He said he stood there with the bat on his shoulders and didn't swing at anything...took too many pitches. I think Jim's pretty much fed up with him. But I'm sure he'll still play because we don't viable options. 2nd base is like an outhouse for this team...it's just crap on top of crap.
 
Last edited:
Leyland criticized Mudhen's hitting after the game too. He said he stood there with the bat on his shoulders and didn't swing at anything...took too many pitches. I think Jim's pretty much fed up with him. But I'm sure he'll still play because we don't viable options. 2nd base is like an outhouse for this team...it's just crap on top of crap.


Dunno if anyone else heard, but on the radio pre-game Leyland kinda tossed Kelly under the bus along with Raburn.

Said Kelly did an absolutely horrible job yesterday by hitting into that GIDP when Leyland said he should have looked for a pitch to drive or just not swung the bat period.

About Raburn he mentioned time may be running out for him to get back to normal whether he heats up later or not.

would not be surprised to see some moves in the next few weeks.
 
Dunno if anyone else heard, but on the radio pre-game Leyland kinda tossed Kelly under the bus along with Raburn.

Said Kelly did an absolutely horrible job yesterday by hitting into that GIDP when Leyland said he should have looked for a pitch to drive or just not swung the bat period.

About Raburn he mentioned time may be running out for him to get back to normal whether he heats up later or not.

would not be surprised to see some moves in the next few weeks.

Good, I've seen way too much of both of them. I'm okay with keeping one of them in the last roster spot just based on versatility, but they damn well better not be starting every day like they have been.
 
Makes sense. Need to make moves even if they don't help. Have to try. Can't continually put guys out there that might get a single in one whole series.
 
Makes sense. Need to make moves even if they don't help. Have to try. Can't continually put guys out there that might get a single in one whole series.

You could literally put any other MLB player there and I doubt they'd do worse. Raburn is hitting .151, Worth is hitting .158, Kelly is hitting .168, and Santiago is hitting .203. None of them have any power or speed to speak of this year either. The only other regular MLB middle infielders I see hitting in the same range are Weeks at .152, Ryan at .172, Barmes at .175, and Pennington at .206.

The real problem is that we regularly start two of these duds and Leyland even likes to bat them high in the order.
 
You could literally put any other MLB player there and I doubt they'd do worse. Raburn is hitting .151, Worth is hitting .158, Kelly is hitting .168, and Santiago is hitting .203. None of them have any power or speed to speak of this year either. The only other regular MLB middle infielders I see hitting in the same range are Weeks at .152, Ryan at .172, Barmes at .175, and Pennington at .206.

The real problem is that we regularly start two of these duds and Leyland even likes to bat them high in the order.



God Yes that is so terrible... Man we need to do something... And to think if Berry had not gotten hurt he never would have probably been recalled..
 
Leyland criticized Mudhen's hitting after the game too. He said he stood there with the bat on his shoulders and didn't swing at anything...took too many pitches. I think Jim's pretty much fed up with him. But I'm sure he'll still play because we don't viable options. 2nd base is like an outhouse for this team...it's just crap on top of crap.

yep, how many has tried and failed since they decided not to pay Polonco what Inge was making.

Sizemore
Ryhmes
Worth
Shinebox
Inge
Santiago
Guillen
 
I think with the way the Tigers have been playing JL has started to get pissed and and calling out Raburn and Kelly was a good start. Along his speech about the bad call in Boston, you have to have accountability.
 
So, Jim will sit Raburn for one game? Big fn deal, he'll just run him out there on Wednesday or Thursday.
 
Back
Top