Tigers vs. Royals September 27, 2020 Game 58

[turok]

Whole new management team is needed IMO. As today line up, looked to much like a Leyland Sunday lineup. The house needs repaired starting at the roof on down. A full clean sweep out is needed IMO. No body listen to me so that's not going to happen. but....

Should I take on this managers job. I would require being the GM as well. With the right to trade anyone that could get a reasonable return. A 100 to 150 mill salary for the team. Name my own coaching staff a must! That way your hands would not look tied. And keep the lips shut as to what you are trying to do.

Done season over not looking good for the kittens! IMO

In order for that scenario to occur, Ilitch has to remove Leyland's influence on the franchise. Otherwise it will largely remain a good 'ol boys' club. They pick managers who will bend over for whoever Jimmy chooses to ram up their asses to comprise their coaching staffs.

 

[Rebbiv]

I don't think you need both, but one or the other must happen. TB had the most strikeouts in MLB but 2nd most walks and had the 2nd best record in baseball. The Angels had the 3rd most walks 9th fewest K's but missed the playoffs.

The Tigers just don't have anything. Bottom 10 in HR and doubles, fewest walks, top 10 K's, and the pitching staff with the worst ERA in all of baseball.

DET and STL played 2 less games than everyone else. Rate stats are better than counting stats because of this.



DET was last (30th) in BB%

DET was last (30th) in SO%

DET was last (30th) in SO/BB

DET was 23rd in XBH%

 

[tomdalton22]

DET and STL played 2 less games than everyone else. Rate stats are better than counting stats because of this.



DET was last (30th) in BB%

DET was last (30th) in SO%

DET was last (30th) in SO/BB

DET was 23rd in XBH%

forgot that teams played different number of games.

either way you look at it, they suck in every aspect of the game

 

[kalinecountry]

https://motorcitybengals.com/2020/09/28/detroit-tigers-improve-30th-28th-2020/
Detroit Tigers improve from 30th to 28th in 2020. What?s next?
MCBTB

 

[kalinecountry]

https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/locked-on-tigers/e/78096312?autoplay=true
Locked On Detroit Tigers Podcast: All She Wrote. 19 minutes.

Episode Info:
The Tigers season came to an end yesterday and Chris is devastated........just kidding, he couldn't be happier! He talks about this season as a whole and discusses what the Tigers need to do to be competitive moving forward.

 

[tigermud]

Yes.

It just ended today.

I can?t believe the baseball season is actually really over.

It seems like it only just started.

It flew by so fast.

That?s what happens when you get older, I guess.

Didn?t catch a single game, maybe next year

 

[Mitchrapp]

I didn't watch one either. Next year I will.

 

[tomdalton22]

I watched a several innings of Mize & Skubal pitching but that's about it.

 

[byco42]

This was not a season. It was a gimmick to keep baseball relevant and to prevent the Grand Exodus of 1994 from repeating. And now, there is the bread and circuses of the MLB playoffs that has 16(!) teams participating. It reinforces that the entire structure of professional sport is in flux and can be radically altered on the moment, but, somehow, we're supposed to think that the outcome is unchanged, with the same gravitas.

I mean, these teams played 20 games more than the minimum 40 that Sparky always considered the demarcation line of whether a team was good or not.

 

[tomdalton22]

This was not a season. It was a gimmick to keep baseball relevant and to prevent the Grand Exodus of 1994 from repeating. And now, there is the bread and circuses of the MLB playoffs that has 16(!) teams participating. It reinforces that the entire structure of professional sport is in flux and can be radically altered on the moment, but, somehow, we're supposed to think that the outcome is unchanged, with the same gravitas.

I mean, these teams played 20 games more than the minimum 40 that Sparky always considered the demarcation line of whether a team was good or not.

sure it's a season, and it's probably the right length. The only reason the season is 162 games is so they can make a bunch of money (which is perfectly fine)

 

[Rebbiv]

Since 1904:

1904 - 1961 (58 seasons) = 154 Games

1962 - 2019 (58 seasons) = 162 Games

2020 = 60 Games

Winning the CY Young or Battling Championship in a 60-game season is a false-pride thing.

 

[tomdalton22]

Since 1904:

1904 - 1961 (58 seasons) = 154 Games

1962 - 2019 (58 seasons) = 162 Games

2020 = 60 Games

Winning the CY Young or Battling Championship in a 60-game season is a false-pride thing.

I wasn't talking about awards...I was talking about the length of season being enough games to figure out who should make the playoffs. There is no good reason for 162 games besides money. I kind like the idea of a much shorter season. The NFL has 16, college football 12 or 13, 60-80 is plenty for baseball to figure out who makes the playoffs. NBA and NHL should also be cut in about 1/2. I think NCAA B-ball has about 28-30???

 

[byco42]

sure it's a season, and it's probably the right length. The only reason the season is 162 games is so they can make a bunch of money (which is perfectly fine)

Some of my summers in American Legion ball approached 40 games. Add in the 30 HS games that same year and that?s more than MLB played this season.

Baseball is a marathon, not a mad dash to the finish line.

 

[Rebbiv]

I wasn't talking about awards...I was talking about the length of season being enough games to figure out who should make the playoffs. There is no good reason for 162 games besides money. I kind like the idea of a much shorter season. The NFL has 16, college football 12 or 13, 60-80 is plenty for baseball to figure out who makes the playoffs. NBA and NHL should also be cut in about 1/2. I think NCAA B-ball has about 28-30???

If you think it has been always about money, then I don't know what to say. Your equating each sport based on games, not length in months or physical exertion vs muscle recovery. The you have the scheduling and travel dilemmas.

Arizona Fall League = @ 30 games

You are basically saying double that is good enough. In baseball, 60 games is a small sample size and even Zimmerman could be a CY Young in that short of time. 60 game season is a joke and served no purpose except to give players their service time.

Owners could have endured a season without games. Players, fans and some politicians could not.

 

[byco42]

I wasn't talking about awards...I was talking about the length of season being enough games to figure out who should make the playoffs. There is no good reason for 162 games besides money. I kind like the idea of a much shorter season. The NFL has 16, college football 12 or 13, 60-80 is plenty for baseball to figure out who makes the playoffs. NBA and NHL should also be cut in about 1/2. I think NCAA B-ball has about 28-30???

Good luck getting the players to accept huge pay cuts or fans to absorbs huge increases in ticket prices, or MLB to accept huge reductions in TV and ad revenue.

And for owners to honor existing contracts like Trout’s and Harpers’s. I mean ...

 

[Mitchrapp]

Cut NHL in half and the Blues don't make the playoffs & win the Stanley Cup in 2018-19. 41 games is not enough imo.

 

[tinselwolverine]

sure it's a season, and it's probably the right length. The only reason the season is 162 games is so they can make a bunch of money (which is perfectly fine)

It is perfectly fine.

And I thought a bunch of money was the name of the game, rights?

Instead of playing less games, maybe they should play more games.

Maybe they should have the season pretty much year-round, like golf and tennis, and start the regular season in January right after the World Series in December.

We?ve seen that fans will tune in to games on TV and radio during this Covid season with a whole Lotta fervor and interest; they could play 162 games in the regular cities, from April through September like they do now, and they could play the balance of the season At winter league and spring training sites.

So they could play the first 81 games of the regular season at their spring training sites, then they could move to the regular cities for the next 162 games, then they could complete the last 81 games at their regular at spring training sites.

We just saw the regular season limited to regional play, they could do that in an expanded schedule. In the early part of the season and the late part of the season, it could be all grapefruit on grapefruit or cactus on cactus.

In the postseason, high seed could host at its own grapefruit or cactus league park, and the World Series could be played at a neutral site with a whole Lotta brouhaha just like the Super Bowl.

 

[Mitchrapp]

It is perfectly fine.

And I thought a bunch of money was the name of the game, rights?

Instead of playing less games, maybe they should play more games.

Maybe they should have the season pretty much year-round, like golf and tennis, and start the regular season in January right after the World Series in December.

We?ve seen that fans will tune in to games on TV and radio during this Covid season with a whole Lotta fervor and interest; they could play 162 games in the regular cities, from April through September like they do now, and they could play the balance of the season At winter league and spring training sites.

So they could play the first 81 games of the regular season at their spring training sites, then they could move to the regular cities for the next 162 games, then they could complete the last 81 games at their regular at spring training sites.

We just saw the regular season limited to regional play, they could do that in an expanded schedule. In the early part of the season and the late part of the season, it could be all grapefruit on grapefruit or cactus on cactus.

In the postseason, high seed could host at its own grapefruit or cactus league park, and the World Series could be played at a neutral site with a whole Lotta brouhaha just like the Super Bowl.

324 games. Outstanding. Of course if the team isn't any good it might be a ware.

 

[tinselwolverine]

324 games. Outstanding. Of course if the team isn't any good it might be a ware.

Got no idea what that is supposed to mean. Figuring it out is like trying to slip a pitch past Hank Aaron.

 

[tomdalton22]

Good luck getting the players to accept huge pay cuts or fans to absorbs huge increases in ticket prices, or MLB to accept huge reductions in TV and ad revenue.

And for owners to honor existing contracts like Trout?s and Harpers?s. I mean ...

oh, I know they would never do it, I was just saying that there is no need for 162 games when other sports can do it in 14, 17 or 30