Trump upset that no one in WH has asked about his "foolproof" plan to defeat ISIS

[biggunsbob]

Nonsense. The media is waiting for any sound byte by any conservative that they can interpret to make them sound racist so they can drum up all the outrage from their loyal followers. Unless he said he was for immigration reform so long as that reform was an open door for any and all, anything he said was going to generate this same reaction - Racist! we must publicly shame, boycott, divest and sanction Trump!!!! It obviously worked on some folks here on this board.

Come and Fox hacks do not do the same thing.. Where the heck have you been :/ This blaming the so called liberal media is so laughable because it goes both ways SM..
Keep hating...it is what the right does best..

 

[Spartanmack]

Come and Fox hacks do not do the same thing.. Where the heck have you been :/ This blaming the so called liberal media is so laughable because it goes both ways SM..
Keep hating...it is what the right does best..

who's hating? All I said was his comments weren't as incendiary as all these outraged folks are making them out to be. I don't know if Fox news does it or not because I don't watch Fox news but for arguments sake, let's say they do - are you saying that makes it ok?

 

[biggunsbob]

who's hating? All I said was his comments weren't as incendiary as all these outraged folks are making them out to be. I don't know if Fox news does it or not because I don't watch Fox news but for arguments sake, let's say they do - are you saying that makes it ok?

Not you per say the RIGHT!! They do the same thing you are claiming the so called Liberal media is doing on FOX and they do it all the damn time more so then the other media..

You blame liberal media but never blame Fox for doing the same thing. I never said you watched anything and this is not about that and do not twist my words you know what we are talking about.. The right is just as bad if not worse then you are claiming the liberal media left is.. I was not lumping you in there but you do seem angry all the damn time. Just seems that way to me...

 

[Spartanmack]

Not you per say the RIGHT!! They do the same thing you are claiming the so called Liberal media is doing on FOX and they do it all the damn time more so then the other media..

You blame liberal media but never blame Fox for doing the same thing. I never said you watched anything and this is not about that and do not twist my words you know what we are talking about.. The right is just as bad if not worse then you are claiming the liberal media left is.. I was not lumping you in there but you do seem angry all the damn time. Just seems that way to me...

I'm not twisting your words, or saying you were lumping me in w/ Fox News. All I said was I don't know if Fox does or to what extent because I don't watch it. I'm just asking you if you think it's ok since both sides do it? And Fox notwithstanding, the media in this country is largely biased to the left...

 

[turok]

Not you per say the RIGHT!! I was not lumping you in there but you do seem angry all the damn time. Just seems that way to me...

Following someone like Mark Levin and his Twitter posts, for example, can make one appear to be that way, I suppose.

https://twitter.com/marklevinshow

 

[biggunsbob]

I'm not twisting your words, or saying you were lumping me in w/ Fox News. All I said was I don't know if Fox does or to what extent because I don't watch it. I'm just asking you if you think it's ok since both sides do it? And Fox notwithstanding, the media in this country is largely biased to the left...

Come on you are trying to change the whole texture of the conservation.. I know you are smart enough to know both sides do it. But all you did above was blame the Liberal media. I feel that you always seem to blame the damn Lib's and or media all the time and I know you know Fox does it louder then all of them and you do not have to watch any network to know this. Both sides have there fair share of good and bad ideas.. I am so freaking tired of a nation that just cannot agree to compromise and do what is best for the country weather it is a lib idea a Right idea or a libertarian moderate idea. Neither side has great track records only time will tell I guess when history judges America 100-300 years from now..

I so disagree that the media is left bias in this country. Especially with Fox noise out there.. Plus National radio is freaking locked down by Hate filled right wing dingnuts... Be agree to disagree..

 

[Spartanmack]

Come on you are trying to change the whole texture of the conservation.. I know you are smart enough to know both sides do it. But all you did above was blame the Liberal media. I feel that you always seem to blame the damn Lib's and or media all the time and I know you know Fox does it louder then all of them and you do not have to watch any network to know this. Both sides have there fair share of good and bad ideas.. I am so freaking tired of a nation that just cannot agree to compromise and do what is best for the country weather it is a lib idea a Right idea or a libertarian moderate idea. Neither side has great track records only time will tell I guess when history judges America 100-300 years from now..

I so disagree that the media is left bias in this country. Especially with Fox noise out there.. Plus National radio is freaking locked down by Hate filled right wing dingnuts... Be agree to disagree..

with all due respect Bob, you are the one who changed the texture by making the point that both sides do it as if that makes it ok. to be clear, I'm not blaming the media for anything and I don't care if, when or why Trump's campaign fizzles out or goes up in smoke. All I'm saying is, his comments, while a bit hyperbolic, were largely true and again, not as incendiary as all those who are outraged by them (media, celebrities, bloggers, Univision, etc) would have you believe them to be. If Fox engages in similar tactics, shame on them too but it's irrelevant to this discussion. And criticizing me for not criticizing a network I never watch is a bit unreasonable. In order to do that, i'd be relying on what you, the media, bloggers, etc say about Fox News. If I cared that much and had the time, I'd watch it and form my own opinion about it.

I'm not sure where the rest of this rant comes from - I've been just as critical of many Republicans (Boehner and McConnell in particular) as I have of Democrats. I've said time and again I'm as much against corporate welfare, bailouts, crony capitalism of both parties as I am our current social welfare system. You and I happen to disagree on a lot of things, but you mistakenly pigeon hole me as an intractable, right wing Fox News watching establishment Republican.

 

[byco42]

Following someone like Mark Levin and his Twitter posts, for example, can make one appear to be that way, I suppose.

https://twitter.com/marklevinshow

Levin has universal contempt for the boofs on both sides of the aisle. And for anyone who takes undue advantage of another via the mechanisms in place and by leveraging unholy alliances.

 

[turok]

Levin has universal contempt for the boofs on both sides of the aisle. And for anyone who takes undue advantage of another via the mechanisms in place and by leveraging unholy alliances.

"Ban the Democrat party" and "Politics aside, the left seeks to destroy Trump's business enterprises" is being universal and not partisan?

From looking @ just some of his posts, he seems pretty far to the right to me, and his use of the word "Democrat" instead of Democratic to describe the party is a dead giveaway.

In fact, his appearing to be somewhat critical of Republicans and the rightwing is similar to the tactic that predatory and monopolistic big businesses such as Wal*Mart, and uber-wealthy sociopathic individuals like the Koch brothers employ, when they support and fund a few "Good Samaritan" public/civic projects in an effort to draw attention away and distract the public from the things that they really want to do or continue, that for example, further enrich them @ other's expense, cause damage to the US economy/infrastructure, and/or pollute the environment.

 

[tinselwolverine]

"Ban the Democrat party" and "Politics aside, the left seeks to destroy Trump's business enterprises" is being universal and not partisan?

As the unlikely event that John McCain would gain the Republican nomination in 2008 began to appear more and more probable, Levin started referring to McCain as "John McLame."

He does that with the true liberal public figures he lampoons as well.

He doesn't pretend to be non-partisan though; he's definitely an admitted conservative
Republican.

The times I've heard him, I've thought his radio comportment was a little unseemly for a guy that had been an attorney in the Justice Department during the Reagan administration.

I would like to be able to hold someone like that to higher standards of decorum than I would Bill Mahar, or Anne Coulter, or Dennis Miller, or Joy Behar, for example...

 

[turok]

Back to the Grump: Duh Donald retweeted a tweet by Rob Hellbron (an apt surname) who insulted Jeb! and Bush's longtime spouse, Columba for being a Mexican immigrant. Frump then waited ~24 hours before deleting it, but not before it was screen-captured:

What kind of HUGE asshole does an alleged RNC presidential primary candidate have to be to personally insult a competing candidate and his wife of his own party and on Independence Day to boot? How about those who were polled that have made Duh Donald the current "runner up" and who still support this national embarrassment, who obviously cannot make the mental leap to distinguish between illegals and legal Mexican immigrants...especially those who are now and have long been US citizens?

http://time.com/3946544/donald-trump-mexican-jeb-bush-twitter/

 

[biggunsbob]

with all due respect Bob, you are the one who changed the texture by making the point that both sides do it as if that makes it ok. to be clear, I'm not blaming the media for anything and I don't care if, when or why Trump's campaign fizzles out or goes up in smoke. All I'm saying is, his comments, while a bit hyperbolic, were largely true and again, not as incendiary as all those who are outraged by them (media, celebrities, bloggers, Univision, etc) would have you believe them to be. If Fox engages in similar tactics, shame on them too but it's irrelevant to this discussion. And criticizing me for not criticizing a network I never watch is a bit unreasonable. In order to do that, i'd be relying on what you, the media, bloggers, etc say about Fox News. If I cared that much and had the time, I'd watch it and form my own opinion about it.

I'm not sure where the rest of this rant comes from - I've been just as critical of many Republicans (Boehner and McConnell in particular) as I have of Democrats. I've said time and again I'm as much against corporate welfare, bailouts, crony capitalism of both parties as I am our current social welfare system. You and I happen to disagree on a lot of things, but you mistakenly pigeon hole me as an intractable, right wing Fox News watching establishment Republican.

Again I disagree with you.. The reason you get pigeon holed (as you called it) is because you do sound like a loud right wing blogger. All the time.. Or whatever you want to call it.. Heaven forbid if anyone disagrees with you... Trump's quotes are not true at all and Newspapers around the nation have refuted his claims that all Mexican's are what he says. We have problems in all races in America. We just have find a solution that both the republicans and democrats can find a common ground and that will work for us all because Immigration to the USA is not going to stop anytime soon..We have to make it work somehow instead of inciting hate like Trump has done..

 

[Gulo Blue]

Does anyone know what Fox News said about this? Do they have Trump's back or have they turned on him?

 

[Michchamp]

Trump's political platform keeps moving further and further into full blown xenophobia and racism.

that'll lock up the neo-nazi / KKK vote...

 

[Gulo Blue]

Trump's political platform keeps moving further and further into full blown xenophobia and racism.

that'll lock up the neo-nazi / KKK vote...

I wish. That's exactly what we need, someone to lock up the votes on all the worst positions so the rest of the GOP wouldn't benefit from catering to it.

 

[Michchamp]

I wish. That's exactly what we need, someone to lock up the votes on all the worst positions so the rest of the GOP wouldn't benefit from catering to it.

That is "exactly what we need?" I'm very doubtful of your statement.

These guys are all free to stop pandering to racists at any time; you would give a candidate a pass for that because of politics?

 

[Gulo Blue]

That is "exactly what we need?" I'm very doubtful of your statement.

These guys are all free to stop pandering to racists at any time; you would give a candidate a pass for that because of politics?

That's the opposite of what I meant. I'm not giving people a pass for pandering. I'm wishing some Trump-like character would lock down the racist vote so the panderers lose to people that won't pander. Exactly what we need is a reasonable, flexible, compromising GOP.

 

[tinselwolverine]

That's the opposite of what I meant. I'm not giving people a pass for pandering. I'm wishing some Trump-like character would lock down the racist vote so the panderers lose to people that won't pander. Exactly what we need is a reasonable, flexible, compromising GOP.

I didn't know there was block of voters who specifically self-identified as "the racist block."

EDIT: Is the "racist vote" specifically limited to whites who hate minorities? Or can blacks who hate whites and smug superior Asians who think they're better than everybody join? What about the Mexicans? Are they even a race? People have been calling them that...

They all go to the same "racist block voter" meetings? Or do the racists voters all meet separately based on race?

 

[turok]

Does anyone know what Fox News said about this? Do they have Trump's back or have they turned on him?

I would hazard a guess that Fox has an internal short-list of preferred GOP candidates, and with Trump, perhaps they might expect him to self-destruct before they would need to publicly address his pompous bigotry. Trump is still polling waay too high which might make them leery of going there yet. I admittedly do not watch that channel, but come across some of their uploaded videos on other websites of interviews with Republican presidential primary candidates.

I know that they do not consider Cruz and Hucklebee seriously, as Fox has already roundly criticized them in interviews, and here may be several more, but I have not actively browsed to look for any others.

 

[tinselwolverine]

I can just see the meetings of the multi-racial "racist block" voters...

"We come together, a varied people from many places, and all races, united in one common belief, and that is our belief in the pursuit of racial strife, and civil disharmony..."

Or how about the war room meetings of the candidate and his advisers as they consider openly pursuing the "racist voter" block...?

"It's tricky, PC (Presidential Candidate). While the racist block can be a powerful voting block, the problem with going after their vote too directly is that people might label you a racist..."