What other B1G teams lose

[hungry]

is it too early for this? We have a thread up for what Michigan is losing and bringing back. I always find it interesting to see what other B1G teams are losing and bringing in.

I'll start with MSU and some others that are off the top of my head

Contrary to what some MSU fans have posted here, they are NOT bringing back 10 of 11 starters on their defense, not even close.

They lose right around 6 major contributors on D, all of their wr's, and their QB...I'll go in detail:

Johnny Adams -- db (i have a friend that says he is gone, but the roster lists him as a jr)

Kirk Cousins -- QB

BJ Cunningham -- wr

Joel Foreman - g

Brian Linthecum - TE

KeyShawn Martin - WR/returner

Keith Nichol - WR

Kevin Pickelman - DT

Trenton Robinson - S

Johnathan Strayhorn - DT (not a starter, but important for depth)

Jerel Worthy - DT ( might return, but could go pro)

Now I might be wrong here and there, but i do see major losses on their d-line.

 

[GoBlueInAtlanta]

Your brain was getting ahead of your typing. Cousins is the QB.


Actually, it's interesting that you posted this because I was just trying to find Bama's depth chart to see what they lose before our opening game with them next year at the Jerry Dome. I couldn't find a text-friendly version to copy and paste here.

 

[Michchamp]

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Actually, it's interesting that you posted this because I was just trying to find Bama's depth chart to see what they lose before our opening game with them next year at the Jerry Dome. I couldn't find a text-friendly version to copy and paste here.

You get a C- for effort.

And the MSU losses are interesting, but I still don't think they have too much of a drop off. Looks like the Legends division is going to be another battle between Nebraska, MSU & us.

 

[GoBlueInAtlanta]

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Actually, it's interesting that you posted this because I was just trying to find Bama's depth chart to see what they lose before our opening game with them next year at the Jerry Dome. I couldn't find a text-friendly version to copy and paste here.

You get a C- for effort.

And the MSU losses are interesting, but I still don't think they have too much of a drop off. Looks like the Legends division is going to be another battle between Nebraska, MSU & us.

Didn't say I was done yet.

 

[hungry]

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Actually, it's interesting that you posted this because I was just trying to find Bama's depth chart to see what they lose before our opening game with them next year at the Jerry Dome. I couldn't find a text-friendly version to copy and paste here.

You get a C- for effort.

And the MSU losses are interesting, but I still don't think they have too much of a drop off. Looks like the Legends division is going to be another battle between Nebraska, MSU & us.

Well, I think major hits to their d-line and losing the QB and all contributing WR's will hurt MSU, as well as, a very good returner. They really don't have anyone ready to step in at WR and they will have to replace a 3 year starter at QB.

 

[Michchamp]

hmmm, I did not realize the thing about WRs. while I never believed the comments from their fans that Dantonio was killing us in recruiting, I assumed he was at least bringing in SOME guys who were going to be consistent from year to year.

if they can't replace the production of Cunningham-Cousins in 2012, or even come close, they're going to suffer.

 

[hungry]

hmmm, I did not realize the thing about WRs. while I never believed the comments from their fans that Dantonio was killing us in recruiting, I assumed he was at least bringing in SOME guys who were going to be consistent from year to year.

if they can't replace the production of Cunningham-Cousins in 2012, or even come close, they're going to suffer.

They're bringing in one highly recruited true freshman named Aaron Burbidge, probably the best player in the state of MI, BUT he will be a true freshman and can't possibly replace seniors like Martin, Cunningham, or even Nicholl. Nicholl made some nice plays while defenses keyed on BJ and Keyshawn.

 

[silverbullet97]

Ohio State (trying to do this from memory so I may have to edit later):

OL - Mike Adams, Mike Brewster, and JB Shugarts
RB - Dan Herron
WR - Devir Posey
QB - Joe Bauserman (watch for a transfer or two from our back ups)
DL - Solomon Thomas and Evan Blankenship (Nathan Williams was a senior but was hurt early and applied for a red shirt)
LB - Andrew Sweat
DB - Ty Moller

OL is going to be tough. We never recruited well there under Tressel and losing Kalis to the bad guys is really going to hurt. It will take a few years to really build up depth here regardless of who coaches or what scheme they use. Oddly enough, linebacker may also prove to be a problem depending on what kind of defense we use.

We were a very young team for most of the year and also lost some guys early that should be coming back to give us a boost next year Nathan (Williams, Verlon Reed). Our biggest losses are on offense but all but two of them missed time for either suspension or injury so their replacements have at least seen the field. The problem is that we don't know what our offense or our defense will look like from a schematic stand point which means we have no idea who will fit in and where right now.

 

[hungry]

Illinois might be looking at MSU DC Pat Narduzzi

 

[redandguilty]

Illinois might be looking at MSU DC Pat Narduzzi

Is Illinois looking to hurt people?

 

[silverbullet97]

Illinois might be looking at MSU DC Pat Narduzzi

Is Illinois looking to hurt people?

Illinois should look at Turner Gill. I suspect he would have an easier time pulling in talent at Illinois than he did at Kansas.

 

[Monster]

Is Illinois looking to hurt people?

Illinois should look at Turner Gill. I suspect he would have an easier time pulling in talent at Illinois than he did at Kansas.

i agree. he got a bad draw when he went to Kansas.

 

[wlvrnstlr4life]

Alabama
Maze WR
Hightower LB(junior) expected to go to NFL but who knows
Richardson RB(junior)expected to go to NFL but who knows
McCollough OT
Chapman DT
Upshaw LB
Smelley WR
Barron DB
Menzie DB
Vlachos C

Key starters BUT, still loaded

 

[greenandwhite95]

is it too early for this? We have a thread up for what Michigan is losing and bringing back. I always find it interesting to see what other B1G teams are losing and bringing in.

I'll start with MSU and some others that are off the top of my head

Contrary to what some MSU fans have posted here, they are NOT bringing back 10 of 11 starters on their defense, not even close.

They lose right around 6 major contributors on D, all of their wr's, and their QB...I'll go in detail:

Johnny Adams -- db (i have a friend that says he is gone, but the roster lists him as a jr)

Kirk Cousins -- QB

BJ Cunningham -- wr

Joel Foreman - g

Brian Linthecum - TE

KeyShawn Martin - WR/returner

Keith Nichol - WR

Kevin Pickelman - DT

Trenton Robinson - S

Johnathan Strayhorn - DT (not a starter, but important for depth)

Jerel Worthy - DT ( might return, but could go pro)

Now I might be wrong here and there, but i do see major losses on their d-line.

Where we will be hurt at is WR. We don't have many players with game experience besides our starters, so we don't really now how good the backups are.

Cousins is a big loss but at least our next QB has SOME game experience. He is an Elite11 QB who will be a JR next year and has a real strong arm. Time will tell how he does when he isn't just playing in garbage time.

Adams is a JR, he is coming back. We only lose Robinson in the secondary and he has been hurt a lot this year anyway. They will be our strongest unit by far. Losing Pickelman and possibly Worthy will hurt but, I suspect Hoover and Treadwell ( who were starters before they had season ending injuries ) to step up. With those injuries we found out how good Rush is. The D-Line has experience even with the loses and should also be very strong once again. Lot's of talent there, even with he backups. Also, All LB's return.

All of our RB's return and most of the O-line so i'm expecting the same output or even more. Linthicum will be replaced by JailBird and there probably is more talent with him anyways.

Like I said, who will Maxwell throw the ball too ? We can't just run every game, especially with the worst run game in the league ( according to the numbers ). Our Ofense will be in trouble if our new WR's aren't very good. Defense, I'm not worried at all.

 

[hungry]

Alabama
Maze WR
Hightower LB(junior) expected to go to NFL but who knows
Richardson RB(junior)expected to go to NFL but who knows
McCollough OT
Chapman DT
Upshaw LB
Smelley WR
Barron DB
Menzie DB
Vlachos C

Key starters BUT, still loaded

Yeah, i was curious about this. You'd think you'd have to throw in there that they probably have a top 5 recruiting class coming in just like every year, but losing Richardson, if he goes, should be huge.

Of course, we get them early, so hopefully, we can get them before they get up to speed...

 

[hungry]

is it too early for this? We have a thread up for what Michigan is losing and bringing back. I always find it interesting to see what other B1G teams are losing and bringing in.

I'll start with MSU and some others that are off the top of my head

Contrary to what some MSU fans have posted here, they are NOT bringing back 10 of 11 starters on their defense, not even close.

They lose right around 6 major contributors on D, all of their wr's, and their QB...I'll go in detail:

Johnny Adams -- db (i have a friend that says he is gone, but the roster lists him as a jr)

Kirk Cousins -- QB

BJ Cunningham -- wr

Joel Foreman - g

Brian Linthecum - TE

KeyShawn Martin - WR/returner

Keith Nichol - WR

Kevin Pickelman - DT

Trenton Robinson - S

Johnathan Strayhorn - DT (not a starter, but important for depth)

Jerel Worthy - DT ( might return, but could go pro)

Now I might be wrong here and there, but i do see major losses on their d-line.

Where we will be hurt at is WR. We don't have many players with game experience besides our starters, so we don't really now how good the backups are.

Cousins is a big loss but at least our next QB has SOME game experience. He is an Elite11 QB who will be a JR next year and has a real strong arm. Time will tell how he does when he isn't just playing in garbage time.

Adams is a JR, he is coming back. We only lose Robinson in the secondary and he has been hurt a lot this year anyway. They will be our strongest unit by far. Losing Pickelman and possibly Worthy will hurt but, I suspect Hoover and Treadwell ( who were starters before they had season ending injuries ) to step up. With those injuries we found out how good Rush is. The D-Line has experience even with the loses and should also be very strong once again. Lot's of talent there, even with he backups. Also, All LB's return.

All of our RB's return and most of the O-line so i'm expecting the same output or even more. Linthicum will be replaced by JailBird and there probably is more talent with him anyways.

Like I said, who will Maxwell throw the ball too ? We can't just run every game, especially with the worst run game in the league ( according to the numbers ). Our Ofense will be in trouble if our new WR's aren't very good. Defense, I'm not worried at all.

He WAS an elite 11 QB camp attendee. I don't know about Maxwell, but the elite 11 is a camp. Sometimes people assume that this camp draws the 11 best QB's every season. This is not true. This camp draws the 11 best QB's that will attend the camp. There are a lot of QB's that decline to attend, and then the camp invites others that are below the 11 standard. Like I said, I don't know where Maxwell was sitting in that recruiting class, but just because he went to the elite 11 camp in hs, doesn't mean that he was in the top 11 of his recruiting class.

 

[wlvrnstlr4life]

Alabama
Maze WR
Hightower LB(junior) expected to go to NFL but who knows
Richardson RB(junior)expected to go to NFL but who knows
McCollough OT
Chapman DT
Upshaw LB
Smelley WR
Barron DB
Menzie DB
Vlachos C

Key starters BUT, still loaded

Yeah, i was curious about this. You'd think you'd have to throw in there that they probably have a top 5 recruiting class coming in just like every year, but losing Richardson, if he goes, should be huge.

Of course, we get them early, so hopefully, we can get them before they get up to speed...

We both lose that one key player(Martin for us and Richardson for them). Martin was so great against the run this year, him blowing up plays in the backfield will be missed. Richardson is a great runner/game changer. When there is nothing happening during the game, you wait and wait and wait and then bam he breaks one or catches one out of the backfield. I think it's going to be a really good game, atleast better than the PSU game.

and to add........... I hope Bama is ranked #1 going in. That would be awesome.

 

[greenandwhite95]

Where we will be hurt at is WR. We don't have many players with game experience besides our starters, so we don't really now how good the backups are.

Cousins is a big loss but at least our next QB has SOME game experience. He is an Elite11 QB who will be a JR next year and has a real strong arm. Time will tell how he does when he isn't just playing in garbage time.

Adams is a JR, he is coming back. We only lose Robinson in the secondary and he has been hurt a lot this year anyway. They will be our strongest unit by far. Losing Pickelman and possibly Worthy will hurt but, I suspect Hoover and Treadwell ( who were starters before they had season ending injuries ) to step up. With those injuries we found out how good Rush is. The D-Line has experience even with the loses and should also be very strong once again. Lot's of talent there, even with he backups. Also, All LB's return.

All of our RB's return and most of the O-line so i'm expecting the same output or even more. Linthicum will be replaced by JailBird and there probably is more talent with him anyways.

Like I said, who will Maxwell throw the ball too ? We can't just run every game, especially with the worst run game in the league ( according to the numbers ). Our Ofense will be in trouble if our new WR's aren't very good. Defense, I'm not worried at all.

He WAS an elite 11 QB camp attendee. I don't know about Maxwell, but the elite 11 is a camp. Sometimes people assume that this camp draws the 11 best QB's every season. This is not true. This camp draws the 11 best QB's that will attend the camp. There are a lot of QB's that decline to attend, and then the camp invites others that are below the 11 standard. Like I said, I don't know where Maxwell was sitting in that recruiting class, but just because he went to the elite 11 camp in hs, doesn't mean that he was in the top 11 of his recruiting class.

Whats the 11 standard ? If you look at Maxwells ranking it's quite different according to which site you look at. Scout has him as a 3 star recruit #36 QB for the class. Rivals has him as a 4 star # 9 pocket style QB for the class. Does the Elite 11 camp only take Pro style QB's or both ? I think it's obvious to most ( except you ) that a Camp with the word ELITE in it,probably is a good thing. I'm happy we have him, and also happy we have another ELITE 11 QB in last years recruiting class.

 

[hungry]

He WAS an elite 11 QB camp attendee. I don't know about Maxwell, but the elite 11 is a camp. Sometimes people assume that this camp draws the 11 best QB's every season. This is not true. This camp draws the 11 best QB's that will attend the camp. There are a lot of QB's that decline to attend, and then the camp invites others that are below the 11 standard. Like I said, I don't know where Maxwell was sitting in that recruiting class, but just because he went to the elite 11 camp in hs, doesn't mean that he was in the top 11 of his recruiting class.

Whats the 11 standard ? If you look at Maxwells ranking it's quite different according to which site you look at. Scout has him as a 3 star recruit #36 QB for the class. Rivals has him as a 4 star # 9 pocket style QB for the class. Does the Elite 11 camp only take Pro style QB's or both ? I think it's obvious to most ( except you ) that a Camp with the word ELITE in it,probably is a good thing. I'm happy we have him, and also happy we have another ELITE 11 QB in last years recruiting class.

Don't get your panties in a bunch, I'm just saying that way back then, he might not have been one of the top 11 QB's in the country. He might have been. I'm just saying that some people take the name of that camp the wrong way. I even said that it might not be Maxwell. Of course, you took it that way, though. Maybe that is your doubt coming through.

 

[hungry]

Basically, I could hold a qb camp and name it "Elite QB camp." That doesn't necessarily make it elite.