Who would you trade?

[batcave76]

We've seen the players available for FA and there is not much out there if Det is going to upgrade 2nd and 3rd. What if Det had a chance to land a big time 2nd baseman, say Chase Utley, what would you be willing to give up? Other than Turner, there isn't much prospect wise. Maybe Nick C. On the current team, Porcello? Max? Perry might have some worth. (Some). Raburn? Boesch? Detroit def isn't going to make a big deal from a position of strength. Their farm system is still not producing. That's a big problemo.

 

[turok]

Perry might have some worth?

Nope, sorry...but both Ryan AND Danny are Perry much Worth-less in any trade, whether together in a package OR esp. by themselves.

No way do the Tigers trade Nick Castellanos, IMO...as he is the heir-apparent to replace Inge @ 3B...thank gawd. (in advance)

 

[tomdalton22]

We've seen the players available for FA and there is not much out there if Det is going to upgrade 2nd and 3rd. What if Det had a chance to land a big time 2nd baseman, say Chase Utley, what would you be willing to give up? Other than Turner, there isn't much prospect wise. Maybe Nick C. On the current team, Porcello? Max? Perry might have some worth. (Some). Raburn? Boesch? Detroit def isn't going to make a big deal from a position of strength. Their farm system is still not producing. That's a big problemo.

I wouldn't trade for Chase Utley. 15M a year is way too much money for his production.

 

[jimrice]

I like to avoid trading players that are coming off mediocre years, as their value is at its lowest. It would be a mistake to trade Max, Porcello, Ajax.... any guys like that.

I'd also like to see Turner kept. Young pitching under team control is a good thing.

That doesn't leave much. However, some teams are looking to rid themselves of contracts first and are trying to acquire talent second. I'm sure there is some team out there that would want some of the Tiger's lower end prospects for a player that can contribute at the major league level. I'm not expecting an all star to come here via trade, though. A few upgraded role players would be nice, though.

 

[batcave76]

We've seen the players available for FA and there is not much out there if Det is going to upgrade 2nd and 3rd. What if Det had a chance to land a big time 2nd baseman, say Chase Utley, what would you be willing to give up? Other than Turner, there isn't much prospect wise. Maybe Nick C. On the current team, Porcello? Max? Perry might have some worth. (Some). Raburn? Boesch? Detroit def isn't going to make a big deal from a position of strength. Their farm system is still not producing. That's a big problemo.

I wouldn't trade for Chase Utley. 15M a year is way too much money for his production.

It doesn't have to be Utley. Just the 1st name that came to mind. Obv Perry or RR aren't going to bring in a stud, but there could be interest as part of a big deal. The point is, if Det needs to trade to upgrade, who would, could they trade?

 

[turok]

Not a player that would induce any shock and awe amongst Tigers fans, but I think the Tigers' FO might seriously consider acquiring Kelly Johnson (30) 82.12 RC/650 .244 BAVG .318 OBP .420 SLG .738 OPS

He has some pop in his bat, hitting 21 "taters" combined in '11 for the Diamondbacks/Blue Jays, but his BA had dipped significantly since '10 (.222 vs .284) and his fielding is about league-average for the position. But....hey this is the Tigers that he would be coming to, and him being under the tutelage of our esteemed hitting coach, "Llegendary Lloyd McClendon", I am sure that Kelly could/would again become a swell hitter, and bat in the upper .200s, along with nudging his OPS northward, and back into the mid-.800s range. Johnson is also fairly unique in MLB, as he bats LH, but throws RH.

 

[zoombabyzoom]

Well

Al Alburquerque, Ryan Perry, Delmon Young, Ryan Raburn, Duane Below and everyone in the minors except Turner/Castellanos.

Delmon Young to me would be nice to trade, he has great value right now and rather have someone else than him in the OF.

 

[mhughes0021]

Rich what? Richmond![/color]]Well

Al Alburquerque, Ryan Perry, Delmon Young, Ryan Raburn, Duane Below and everyone in the minors except Turner/Castellanos.

Delmon Young to me would be nice to trade, he has great value right now and rather have someone else than him in the OF.

this is pretty much my thought process as well.....id go as far to add in porcello. Turner will surpass him in a year or 2 and ricky is never going to be more than a 3 or 4. Get what you can for him now.

DY was a great rental and im sure his bat would help....but seeing him attempt to run in left field is painful. Boesch comes back....so really if we can land a corner OF and a 2B id be happy this off season. Inge isnt going anywhere....just plug him in at 8 with hopefully jackson at 9 and platoon Kelly at 3B if needed.

 

[tomdalton22]

Rich what? Richmond![/color]]Well

Al Alburquerque, Ryan Perry, Delmon Young, Ryan Raburn, Duane Below and everyone in the minors except Turner/Castellanos.

Delmon Young to me would be nice to trade, he has great value right now and rather have someone else than him in the OF.

this is pretty much my thought process as well.....id go as far to add in porcello. Turner will surpass him in a year or 2 and ricky is never going to be more than a 3 or 4. Get what you can for him now.

DY was a great rental and im sure his bat would help....but seeing him attempt to run in left field is painful. Boesch comes back....so really if we can land a corner OF and a 2B id be happy this off season. Inge isnt going anywhere....just plug him in at 8 with hopefully jackson at 9 and platoon Kelly at 3B if needed.

Saying Turner WILL surpass Porcello is foolish. Turner may never turn out any better than Porcello. The Tigers don't have many trade chips right now....and they have a good (potentially very good) bat in DY and he is realatively cheap. I would be satisfied with him and Boesch as the corner OF next year.

 

[kalinecountry]

Trade from the Tigers? idk, but to get someone good you have to trade similar.
Posted in the other thread that I wouldn't mind if the Tigers tried to get Brett Gardner and Ben Zobrist for LF and 2B. See what is going on with Brandon McCarthy for 5th starter, gives Turner some time at Toledo and a team is always going to need an extra starter or two during the season and into the playoffs due to innings etc.

 

[batcave76]

this is pretty much my thought process as well.....id go as far to add in porcello. Turner will surpass him in a year or 2 and ricky is never going to be more than a 3 or 4. Get what you can for him now.

DY was a great rental and im sure his bat would help....but seeing him attempt to run in left field is painful. Boesch comes back....so really if we can land a corner OF and a 2B id be happy this off season. Inge isnt going anywhere....just plug him in at 8 with hopefully jackson at 9 and platoon Kelly at 3B if needed.

Saying Turner WILL surpass Porcello is foolish. Turner may never turn out any better than Porcello. The Tigers don't have many trade chips right now....and they have a good (potentially very good) bat in DY and he is realatively cheap. I would be satisfied with him and Boesch as the corner OF next year.

How many pitchers get to a point where Turner is rated and never do a thing? I'd bet it's 3-1. Whether it's due to injury, can't handle it mentally or over matched, it's a fairly long shot to make it to where Rick is now. Turner hasn't exactly been lites out in his couple of starts so far. He could be a stud but history is not on his side. It's not a piece of cake being a productive MLB SP.

 

[Mitchrapp]

Trade DY makes little sense. Who would you get for him besides someone similar, good young hitter who doesn't have good defense etc. Its not like someone will trade a good OF with good defense for a good OF with subpar defense, like Young.

 

[Mitchrapp]

Saying Turner WILL surpass Porcello is foolish. Turner may never turn out any better than Porcello. The Tigers don't have many trade chips right now....and they have a good (potentially very good) bat in DY and he is realatively cheap. I would be satisfied with him and Boesch as the corner OF next year.

How many pitchers get to a point where Turner is rated and never do a thing? I'd bet it's 3-1. Whether it's due to injury, can't handle it mentally or over matched, it's a fairly long shot to make it to where Rick is now. Turner hasn't exactly been lites out in his couple of starts so far. He could be a stud but history is not on his side. It's not a piece of cake being a productive MLB SP.

Glad they didn't have that thought about JV.

 

[batcave76]

Mitch[/color]]

How many pitchers get to a point where Turner is rated and never do a thing? I'd bet it's 3-1. Whether it's due to injury, can't handle it mentally or over matched, it's a fairly long shot to make it to where Rick is now. Turner hasn't exactly been lites out in his couple of starts so far. He could be a stud but history is not on his side. It's not a piece of cake being a productive MLB SP.

Glad they didn't have that thought about JV.

The pitchers drafted after JV in 04: #3 pick Humber is on his 4th team
#4 Nieman has had some success.
#5 Rogers busted for roids.
#6 Sowers. Who?
Drafting MLB players is the biggest crap-shoot in pro sports.
Turner was a #9 pick. I wouldn't pencil him in!

 

[kingofdetroit57]

I'd make just about everybody available this offseason. Not sure I'd target Utley in particluar, but if we could add a legit player at a position of need, I'm interested.

 

[batcave76]

I'd make just about everybody available this offseason. Not sure I'd target Utley in particluar, but if we could add a legit player at a position of need, I'm interested.

Utley? WTH??? This was simply an example to make a point. Utley isn't going anywhere and certainly not to Det. Do you ppl read these posts???

 

[kingofdetroit57]

I'd make just about everybody available this offseason. Not sure I'd target Utley in particluar, but if we could add a legit player at a position of need, I'm interested.

Utley? WTH??? This was simply an example to make a point. Utley isn't going anywhere and certainly not to Det. Do you ppl read these posts???

Your whole post is wrapped around the premise of trading for a big time player and you use Utley as the example... how am I supposed to read and respond to that? I said I'd trade just about anybody and said I wouldn't target Utley. I stopped short of saying, "because he'd cost a fortune and I'm not sure they'd even trade him."

 

[jimrice]

I doubt the Tigers will pick up Delmon's option and then trade him. He was basically cut a couple of months ago. If the Tigers aren't going to keep him, I expect them to decline his option and let him become a free agent.

 

[batcave76]

I doubt the Tigers will pick up Delmon's option and then trade him. He was basically cut a couple of months ago. If the Tigers aren't going to keep him, I expect them to decline his option and let him become a free agent.

There are posts that say he shud be traded. Det would have to pick up his option, then trade him. I really think there are better corner OF options than DY. DeJesus for 1.

 

[jimrice]

I'd make just about everybody available this offseason. Not sure I'd target Utley in particluar, but if we could add a legit player at a position of need, I'm interested.

What's the sense in making everyone available on a team that was 2 wins away from the World Series?

You might just be speaking in hyperbole, but what's the point of dangling Cabrera, Verlander, Benoit, Max, Fister, Avila, Boesch, Peralta and other core guys?