Who would you trade?

[Mitchrapp]

Mitch[/color]]

Glad they didn't have that thought about JV.

The pitchers drafted after JV in 04: #3 pick Humber is on his 4th team
#4 Nieman has had some success.
#5 Rogers busted for roids.
#6 Sowers. Who?
Drafting MLB players is the biggest crap-shoot in pro sports.
Turner was a #9 pick. I wouldn't pencil him in!

The point: you have to pick and choose what prospects are keepers. You can't just label them all as long shots so trade all of them because they might fail.

 

[jimrice]

Mitch[/color]]

The pitchers drafted after JV in 04: #3 pick Humber is on his 4th team
#4 Nieman has had some success.
#5 Rogers busted for roids.
#6 Sowers. Who?
Drafting MLB players is the biggest crap-shoot in pro sports.
Turner was a #9 pick. I wouldn't pencil him in!

The point: you have to pick and choose what prospects are keepers. You can't just label them all as long shots so trade all of them because they might fail.

That, and the fact that teams on any kind of budget need young, cheap players to contribute.

 

[food4thought]

I think you have to consider every minor league prospect as available for the right player... for example, I would trade Turner as part of a deal for a legit #2 pitcher, and I would trade Castellanos for serious upgrade at 2nd or third (Castellanos is sub par defensively and his K rate is disturbing). I wouldn't trade both together unless the return is excellent. EVERYONE ELSE in the minors is available for moderate upgrades to the major league roster.

I honestly don't know who would be available so tossing out names would be a pointless exercise.

 

[batcave76]

Mitch[/color]]

The pitchers drafted after JV in 04: #3 pick Humber is on his 4th team
#4 Nieman has had some success.
#5 Rogers busted for roids.
#6 Sowers. Who?
Drafting MLB players is the biggest crap-shoot in pro sports.
Turner was a #9 pick. I wouldn't pencil him in!

The point: you have to pick and choose what prospects are keepers. You can't just label them all as long shots so trade all of them because they might fail.

I agree. The object, I guess, is to be able to know the diff!

 

[Mitchrapp]

For them not us. I have no idea if Turner will be a good big league player.

 

[Rebbiv]

I would target anyone 30 or under.


B. Zobrist (30) 100.37 RC/650 .284 BAVG .366 OBP .468 SLG .834 OPS

N. Markakais (28) 94.56 RC/650 .297 BAVG .364 OBP .436 SLG .800 OPS

C. Headley (27) 93.71 RC/650 .305 BAVG .366 OBP .438 SLG .804 OPS

E. Aybar (28) 87.79 RC/650 .303 BAVG .343 OBP .431 SLG .774 OPS

C. Pennington (27) 85.91 RC/650 .278 BAVG .336 OBP .407 SLG .743 OPS

B. Gardner (28) 85.14 RC/650 .274 BAVG .354 OBP .373 SLG .727 OPS


All of these guys have way better away stats over the last 3 years than Reyes, Phillips or A. Ramirez and will come cheaper.

 

[batcave76]

I would target anyone 30 or under.


B. Zobrist (30) 100.37 RC/650 .284 BAVG .366 OBP .468 SLG .834 OPS

N. Markakais (28) 94.56 RC/650 .297 BAVG .364 OBP .436 SLG .800 OPS

C. Headley (27) 93.71 RC/650 .305 BAVG .366 OBP .438 SLG .804 OPS

E. Aybar (28) 87.79 RC/650 .303 BAVG .343 OBP .431 SLG .774 OPS

C. Pennington (27) 85.91 RC/650 .278 BAVG .336 OBP .407 SLG .743 OPS

B. Gardner (28) 85.14 RC/650 .274 BAVG .354 OBP .373 SLG .727 OPS


All of these guys have way better away stats over the last 3 years than Reyes, Phillips or A. Ramirez and will come cheaper.

Add Choo and you have a baker's 1/2 dozen.

 

[batcave76]

Mitch[/color]]For them not us. I have no idea if Turner will be a good big league player.

That's why you trade a known quanity for an unknown one. If the O's wanted Turner and some other prospects for Markakis or the Tribe wanted him for Choo, how could you pass?

 

[bdtay71]

I doubt the Tigers will pick up Delmon's option and then trade him. He was basically cut a couple of months ago. If the Tigers aren't going to keep him, I expect them to decline his option and let him become a free agent.

There are posts that say he shud be traded. Det would have to pick up his option, then trade him. I really think there are better corner OF options than DY. DeJesus for 1.

Delmon isn't going anywhere. This is why Jim likes to have a guy like Kelly on the roster to come in as a defensive replacement in the late innings. I think Inge will be here next year as well so the only moves I can foresee the Tigers making are for a 2B, and it doesn't have to be a high profile guy, and probably add a 5th starter. I think they will wait on bullpen help until next season's trade deadline.

 

[Mitchrapp]

Mitch[/color]]For them not us. I have no idea if Turner will be a good big league player.

That's why you trade a known quanity for an unknown one. If the O's wanted Turner and some other prospects for Markakis or the Tribe wanted him for Choo, how could you pass?

For you and me sure. But the Tigers brass might think he's another Verlander. As for Choo, after a bad season I would hope not. And he's almost 30. If you're going to trade a top prospect, get a young stud. Like Miggy

 

[Mitchrapp]

Talking about Delmon, did the Tigers lose any games because of his defense? I think his sub par defense is overrated. So he's not graceful, who cares. I wish he'd walk a bit more but in the end do I want DY in left or Dirks/Kelly/Raburn etc. I'll take Young.

 

[tomdalton22]

Mitch[/color]]Talking about Delmon, did the Tigers lose any games because of his defense? I think his sub par defense is overrated. So he's not graceful, who cares. I wish he'd walk a bit more but in the end do I want DY in left or Dirks/Kelly/Raburn etc. I'll take Young.

I agree. I think a healthy Boesch and DY at the corners is fine. I think DY will be playing for a contract and will have a good year. I think he will match or exceed his numbers from 2010. I think he will hit .290 with 25 HR and 100 RBI if he plays a full year in Detroit.

 

[mjsb2]

Rich what? Richmond![/color]]Well

Al Alburquerque, Ryan Perry, Delmon Young, Ryan Raburn, Duane Below and everyone in the minors except Turner/Castellanos.

Delmon Young to me would be nice to trade, he has great value right now and rather have someone else than him in the OF.

DY has little trade value.

Teams are smart enough to realize that postseason numbers aren't really valuable in predicting future production.

 

[Mitchrapp]

But he's had good regular season numbers. Unless you think its a fluke. Look, DY is no stud, but he has a healthy career BA and he drives in runs and when he came here has been blasting the ball.

 

[mjsb2]

Mitch[/color]]For them not us. I have no idea if Turner will be a good big league player.

That's why you trade a known quanity for an unknown one. If the O's wanted Turner and some other prospects for Markakis or the Tribe wanted him for Choo, how could you pass?

I wouldn't trade Turner straight up for Markakis.

It would be very easy to pass, mostly because that would be an incredibly poor trade.

 

[mjsb2]

Mitch[/color]]But he's had good regular season numbers. Unless you think its a fluke. Look, DY is no stud, but he has a healthy career BA and he drives in runs and when he came here has been blasting the ball.

He had one good season.

At this point, he's a mediocre player, not the best option for LF, not the worst.

I'd rather the Tigers let him leave, but that's probably not going to happen, and I'm fine with that.

I just hate that Leyland will undoubtedly bat him right in front of Cabrera.

My point was, he's a mediocre player, and mediocre players don't have trade value.

 

[batcave76]

Mitch[/color]]

That's why you trade a known quanity for an unknown one. If the O's wanted Turner and some other prospects for Markakis or the Tribe wanted him for Choo, how could you pass?

For you and me sure. But the Tigers brass might think he's another Verlander. As for Choo, after a bad season I would hope not. And he's almost 30. If you're going to trade a top prospect, get a young stud. Like Miggy

I doubt Cleveland would deal Choo. W/his down season this yr, they'd be selling low. But he's a 5 tool guy. Something Det sorely needs.

 

[mjsb2]

I would target anyone 30 or under.


B. Zobrist (30) 100.37 RC/650 .284 BAVG .366 OBP .468 SLG .834 OPS

N. Markakais (28) 94.56 RC/650 .297 BAVG .364 OBP .436 SLG .800 OPS

C. Headley (27) 93.71 RC/650 .305 BAVG .366 OBP .438 SLG .804 OPS

E. Aybar (28) 87.79 RC/650 .303 BAVG .343 OBP .431 SLG .774 OPS

C. Pennington (27) 85.91 RC/650 .278 BAVG .336 OBP .407 SLG .743 OPS

B. Gardner (28) 85.14 RC/650 .274 BAVG .354 OBP .373 SLG .727 OPS


All of these guys have way better away stats over the last 3 years than Reyes, Phillips or A. Ramirez and will come cheaper.

I'd love for the Tigers to add Headley, good defense and a good bat at 3B.

I was hoping they'd trade for him at the deadline.

 

[Mitchrapp]

Mitch[/color]]But he's had good regular season numbers. Unless you think its a fluke. Look, DY is no stud, but he has a healthy career BA and he drives in runs and when he came here has been blasting the ball.

He had one good season.

At this point, he's a mediocre player, not the best option for LF, not the worst.

I'd rather the Tigers let him leave, but that's probably not going to happen, and I'm fine with that.

I just hate that Leyland will undoubtedly bat him right in front of Cabrera.

My point was, he's a mediocre player, and mediocre players don't have trade value.

So of current Tigers who would you rather see in left? Face it we don't have a better option. Of course he's no big trade target but he's young, cheap and our best option.

 

[batcave76]

Mitch[/color]]But he's had good regular season numbers. Unless you think its a fluke. Look, DY is no stud, but he has a healthy career BA and he drives in runs and when he came here has been blasting the ball.

He had one good season.

At this point, he's a mediocre player, not the best option for LF, not the worst.

I'd rather the Tigers let him leave, but that's probably not going to happen, and I'm fine with that.

I just hate that Leyland will undoubtedly bat him right in front of Cabrera.

My point was, he's a mediocre player, and mediocre players don't have trade value.

He shouldn't hit 3rd. It's funny but I remember Smoot was arguing a couple yrs ago that Raburn was a better hitter than DY.