Who would you trade?

[Mitchrapp]

All I'm saying is I'm not sure I want a .220 hitter or worse for 3 months. for whatever reason, Raburn has a few seasons where he just decides not to hit. He also strikes out more than DY. And I'm getting really sick of the Inge/AJ/Raburn trio when it comes to striking out. I know DY is no walk machine but Raburn isn't much better.

And I'm not sure if they want to keep both and who's decision it might be, but Leyland obviously prefers DY since he was getting the AB over Raburn. That was before Maggs got hurt. And I'm not sure how he feels about a 4th or 5th OF but IMO, they need to be able to play defense well so they can come in as defensive replacement. So I'm thinking they only keep one of the two.

 

[tomdalton22]

Mitch[/color]]All I'm saying is I'm not sure I want a .220 hitter or worse for 3 months. for whatever reason, Raburn has a few seasons where he just decides not to hit. He also strikes out more than DY. And I'm getting really sick of the Inge/AJ/Raburn trio when it comes to striking out. I know DY is no walk machine but Raburn isn't much better.

And I'm not sure if they want to keep both and who's decision it might be, but Leyland obviously prefers DY since he was getting the AB over Raburn. That was before Maggs got hurt. And I'm not sure how he feels about a 4th or 5th OF but IMO, they need to be able to play defense well so they can come in as defensive replacement. So I'm thinking they only keep one of the two.

If they keep DY for just the year my guess is they keep both. I would prefer they get rid of Rayburn. I would rather have Kelly, Santiago and Dirks as bench players.

 

[kingofdetroit57]

Mitch[/color]]All I'm saying is I'm not sure I want a .220 hitter or worse for 3 months. for whatever reason, Raburn has a few seasons where he just decides not to hit. He also strikes out more than DY. And I'm getting really sick of the Inge/AJ/Raburn trio when it comes to striking out. I know DY is no walk machine but Raburn isn't much better.

And I'm not sure if they want to keep both and who's decision it might be, but Leyland obviously prefers DY since he was getting the AB over Raburn. That was before Maggs got hurt. And I'm not sure how he feels about a 4th or 5th OF but IMO, they need to be able to play defense well so they can come in as defensive replacement. So I'm thinking they only keep one of the two.

If they keep DY for just the year my guess is they keep both. I would prefer they get rid of Rayburn. I would rather have Kelly, Santiago and Dirks as bench players.

I could definitely see Raburn as a trade piece in a larger trade with an NL team.

 

[doinwork83]

DY's arbitration eligable this off season, so im curious to see what hes valued at, which will play a huge role whether or not hes in a Detroit uniform next year. Personally I'd like to see him back. Raburns only due 2.1 mil next year, so Im sure he'll be back. IMO, the only type of 2b id like to see us sign this off season is one that can produce in the lead off spot so we can move AJ to the 9 spot.

Id like to see us sign/trade for a couple horses to add to the bullpen. We need a shutdown guy for the 7th. It looked like Al Al could be that guy, until he decided to take a screamer off the dome during BP. #1 rule, dont take your eye off the ball. C'mon Man!......Purcey and Pauley not taking huge dueces after we aquired them wouldve been nice too . Public enemy #1 in my book though is Schlereth, Id love to see that guy sent packing...

 

[kingofdetroit57]

I'd have no issue with BP pitchers not named Benoit, Coke, Al Al or Valverde being traded away.

 

[turok]

I'd have no issue with BP pitchers not named Benoit, Coke, Al Al or Valverde being traded away.

Schlereth, Pauley and esp. Perry would fetch little in trade, but perhaps the Tigers will give Zumaya yet another shot in '12, if so, then they are both even more expendable, albeit Schereth being a lefty in a pitching staff that has ALL RH SP (at this point) makes him more worth keeping than Pauley and Perry are.

 

[biggunsbob]

Mitch[/color]]Talking about Delmon, did the Tigers lose any games because of his defense? I think his sub par defense is overrated. So he's not graceful, who cares. I wish he'd walk a bit more but in the end do I want DY in left or Dirks/Kelly/Raburn etc. I'll take Young.

Game four ALCS....Driblble,dribble,drible,,,,Ball by Young.. Murphy scores... But his bat is intriguing if he can stay healthy and lose some pounds.

 

[Mitchrapp]

biggunsbob[/color]]
[quote="Mitch":5t2l63ib]Talking about Delmon, did the Tigers lose any games because of his defense? I think his sub par defense is overrated. So he's not graceful, who cares. I wish he'd walk a bit more but in the end do I want DY in left or Dirks/Kelly/Raburn etc. I'll take Young.

Game four ALCS....Driblble,dribble,drible,,,,Ball by Young.. Murphy scores... But his bat is intriguing if he can stay healthy and lose some pounds. [/quote:5t2l63ib]

A deep double. Maybe a faster OF would have held him at 3rd. They got an error and a single after that in the same inning. Not sure I'd say DY lost the game which was my point I was trying to make.

 

[randyf10]

For 2012 I stick with DY, it seems like alot of players have their break out years at 27 - 28 yrs old, so lets take a one year shot, plus he will be in a contract year, so for next year put him in LF and worry about 2b, 3b, another SP and a bullpen arm. I can live with either Santiago/Rabun at 2b or Inge/Kelly at 3b but not both, we need to fix one for sure this off-season. Longshot, trade Scherzer for Phillips, sign Buehrle for 3 yrs, Brandon McCarthy or Bruce Chen for one year, until Turner is ready and one bullpen arm and Zumaya to a minor league contract.

 

[batcave76]

That's why you trade a known quanity for an unknown one. If the O's wanted Turner and some other prospects for Markakis or the Tribe wanted him for Choo, how could you pass?

I wouldn't trade Turner straight up for Markakis.

It would be very easy to pass, mostly because that would be an incredibly poor trade.

Why would it be a poor trade? I'd do it in a heartbeat.

 

[kalinecountry]

I wouldn't trade Turner straight up for Markakis.

It would be very easy to pass, mostly because that would be an incredibly poor trade.

Why would it be a poor trade? I'd do it in a heartbeat.

imo, markakis had a bit of a down year for him. and going into the 4th year of this contract;
09:$3M, 10:$6.75M, 11:$10.25M, 12:$12M, 13:$15M, 14:$15M, 15:$17.5M club option ($2M buyout)

 

[mjsb2]

I wouldn't trade Turner straight up for Markakis.

It would be very easy to pass, mostly because that would be an incredibly poor trade.

Why would it be a poor trade? I'd do it in a heartbeat.

Because Markakis isn't worth a top prospect.

Basically, he provides little value over what we have, so giving up Turner for marginal improvement is an absolutely retarded idea.

 

[batcave76]

KalineCountry[/color]]

Why would it be a poor trade? I'd do it in a heartbeat.

imo, markakis had a bit of a down year for him. and going into the 4th year of this contract;
09:$3M, 10:$6.75M, 11:$10.25M, 12:$12M, 13:$15M, 14:$15M, 15:$17.5M club option ($2M buyout)

Where do find players current contracts?

 

[kingofdetroit57]

KalineCountry[/color]]

imo, markakis had a bit of a down year for him. and going into the 4th year of this contract;
09:$3M, 10:$6.75M, 11:$10.25M, 12:$12M, 13:$15M, 14:$15M, 15:$17.5M club option ($2M buyout)

Where do find players current contracts?

http://mlbcontracts.blogspot.com/

 

[batcave76]

Where do find players current contracts?

http://mlbcontracts.blogspot.com/

Thanks. Markakis would be great but not at those #'s!

 

[jimrice]

I'd prefer Raburn over Young. I think if the Tigers pass on Young, they would likely get a quality left handed bat to platoon in left with Raburn. If it's Young, I expect that he'll get the full time job and overall production would be much less than a good platoon.

Also, the idea of having Boesch move to left to platoon and a full time right fielder signed/acquired would be nice, too.

 

[Mitchrapp]

The money and like msj said, marginal improvement. He gets on base a tad more than the guys we have but outside that, very similar.

And i think we have more dire needs like getting a 3rd or 2nd baseman.

 

[Mitchrapp]

I'd prefer Raburn over Young. I think if the Tigers pass on Young, they would likely get a quality left handed bat to platoon in left with Raburn. If it's Young, I expect that he'll get the full time job and overall production would be much less than a good platoon.

Also, the idea of having Boesch move to left to platoon and a full time right fielder signed/acquired would be nice, too.

That's interesting. You want the part time guy because he might be platooned with say Dirks. Because Dirks or Kelly are the guys that would be part of that platoon. I'll take DY over that combo.

And BB is a good hitter against LHP. So you either play him or you don't, platoon won't work with him.

 

[jimrice]

Mitch[/color]]

I'd prefer Raburn over Young. I think if the Tigers pass on Young, they would likely get a quality left handed bat to platoon in left with Raburn. If it's Young, I expect that he'll get the full time job and overall production would be much less than a good platoon.

Also, the idea of having Boesch move to left to platoon and a full time right fielder signed/acquired would be nice, too.

That's interesting. You want the part time guy because he might be platooned with say Dirks. Because Dirks or Kelly are the guys that would be part of that platoon. I'll take DY over that combo.

And BB is a good hitter against LHP. So you either play him or you don't, platoon won't work with him.

I'm not sure how you translate "they would get a quality left handed bat" to mean Dirks or Kelly. Obviously, the Tigers have those players already. I mean an actual real left handed bat.

I'm not really prepared to go all in on Boesch, as he has yet to post an OPS over .800. That's not great for a regular corner outfield. And for those that complain about 1st half splits verses 2nd half splits.... well Boesch is the poster child. In his two years, he's down nothing in the second half.

I don't think you throw Boesch out, but upgrading his spot would be nice, if there is someone out there available. Raburn has had 3 years of better OPS than Boesch's best year. He's simply not that great.

 

[Mitchrapp]

Mitch[/color]]

That's interesting. You want the part time guy because he might be platooned with say Dirks. Because Dirks or Kelly are the guys that would be part of that platoon. I'll take DY over that combo.

And BB is a good hitter against LHP. So you either play him or you don't, platoon won't work with him.

I'm not sure how you translate "they would get a quality left handed bat" to mean Dirks or Kelly. Obviously, the Tigers have those players already. I mean an actual real left handed bat.

I'm not really prepared to go all in on Boesch, as he has yet to post an OPS over .800. That's not great for a regular corner outfield. And for those that complain about 1st half splits verses 2nd half splits.... well Boesch is the poster child. In his two years, he's down nothing in the second half.

I don't think you throw Boesch out, but upgrading his spot would be nice, if there is someone out there available. Raburn has had 3 years of better OPS than Boesch's best year. He's simply not that great.

I missed that. I saw LHP and assumed one of their own. But I doubt Detroit could get a good player who is okay with a PT role. Probably just get a Dirks clone.