Wide spread election fraud 2020

[sggatecl]

Focus should be on the poverty line, not the gap.

With a bar as low as what the census sets for the poverty line, a part time job at Wal-Mart would make someone break that threshold. Terrible metric imo.

Bezos, Walton, and Co hoarding mass amounts of wealth while the government subsidizes their work force with health insurance and food assistance doesn't sit well with me. I don't have to be a commie socialist to hold that opinion.

 

[Gulo Blue]

it's not essential, it's more of a byproduct. But it's not fundamentally bad either. When wealth and quality of life are increasing for everyone, which unless you're dumb enough to believe Bernie Sanders and AOC, they clearly are in America, the wealth gap isn't the issue. Focus should be on the poverty line, not the gap. but that doesn't generate votes for socialism like class warfare does. Also, it's not free market capitalism that is generating the widening of the wealth gap, it's crony corporatism that's doing that. Again, if you listen to morons like Bernie Sanders and AOC (and MC) and you think more regulation and bigger government will make the system less corrupt, you're simply out of your mind. Were you really mocking the claim that capitalism is the most efficient, productive and ethical form of economy management in history? Do you have some evidence to show it's not? would love to see it.

But go ahead, keep putting words in my mouth to try to make it look like i'm saying something I'm not and going through whatever mental gymnastics you need to so you can agree with the monumentally stupid shit your boyfriend posts and beclown yourselves even more with your moronic circle jerk.

Why would you think I'm mocking the things I said about capitalism?


That's insane.

 

[Gulo Blue]

How did MC quote that post before it appeared?


Insane, time-traveling post.

 

[Spartanmack]

With a bar as low as what the census sets for the poverty line, a part time job at Wal-Mart would make someone break that threshold. Terrible metric imo.

Bezos, Walton, and Co hoarding mass amounts of wealth while the government subsidizes their work force with health insurance and food assistance doesn't sit well with me. I don't have to be a commie socialist to hold that opinion.

I should have said the it's the absolute poverty level that matters, not necessarily what the government considers to be the poverty line. And you don't have to be a commie socialist to think that, but just because you don't like it doesn't make it the problem. I don't like the low wages Walmart, Target, etc pay their workers but I see government intervention as the cause and the problem more than wealth hoarding. The reason Waltmart, Target, etc can pay such low wages is because their cronies in government are subsidizing those wages with welfare programs on top of other artificial competitive advantages, not because their stock prices have made shareholders wealthier. And I think the idea that government can fix this by increasing regulation rather than decreasing it, is crazy.

 

[Spartanmack]

Why would you think I'm mocking the things I said about capitalism?


That's insane.

it's not really - there's no reason to put them in there unless you were mocking them along with the crap I never actually said that you made up in order to mock it. It's a perfectly reasonable assumption/question given the context and your increasing propensity to side with the boards top socialist moron who vehemently despises capitalism.

 

[Michchamp]

Yeah, I guess I need to state that I think wealth inequality, being essential to free market capitalism, the greatest, most efficient, most productive, and most ethical form of economy management in history, is not fundamentally bad - before that's assumed to be what I'm saying.

there's "wealth inequality" like... "I work harder than my neighbor, don't put a lot on my credit card, and carefully save 10% of my monthly income, and so now, 5 years later, I have more money in the bank than he does and bought a nicer sedan than his & and put a pool in the backyard without getting killed on the interest rates on the loans."

And then there's "wealth inequality" like "I have hundreds of millions (or billions) of dollars and me & my fellow billionaires were able to BUY Congress and get a tax break passed that lowered marginal rates on our income and also gave us a bunch of loopholes our tax lawyers wanted so we can lower our effective rates EVEN FURTHER without the public realizing it, even though everyone who's not as wealthy as is us is essentially paying the same or higher taxes & costs and getting less, and getting squeezed on what they get back."

the differences between the two are apparently lost on most Americans, and that's why you see working-stiff support for "trickle down economics" and Trump's tax cuts.

 

[Michchamp]

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the differences between the two are apparently lost on most Americans, and that's why you see working-stiff support for "trickle down economics" and Trump's tax cuts.

or alternatively why you see salaried middle class white guys identifying with billionaires instead of the people below the poverty line, who are a lot closer to them class wise, or in terms of purchasing power & political influence, than they are to the billionaires.

 

[Gulo Blue]

it's not really - there's no reason to put them in there unless you were mocking them along with the crap I never actually said that you made up in order to mock it. It's a perfectly reasonable assumption/question given the context and your increasing propensity to side with the boards top socialist moron who vehemently despises capitalism.

What? Perfectly reasonable? Come on.

 

[Spartanmack]

or alternatively why you see salaried middle class white guys identifying with billionaires instead of the people below the poverty line, who are a lot closer to them class wise, or in terms of purchasing power & political influence, than they are to the billionaires.

not here on DSF. Here we mostly get an underachieving middle class white guy who doesn't understand economics blaming his failures and his misperceptions of what's happening in America on people who have more money than him and calls anyone who disagrees with his incessant inane ramblings about the wonders of socialism and big government, billionaire bootlickers.

 

[Spartanmack]

What? Perfectly reasonable? Come on.

Perfectly. Reasonable. Your time is running short, want me to PM you my venmo handle?

 

[tinselwolverine]

Anyway, the next 2 days should be quite the show...

 

[Gulo Blue]

Anyway, the next 2 days should be quite the show...

I know. Very excited about the launch of the Discovery+ network (because we need another flippin' subscription service.)

 

[Spartanmack]

Anyway, the next 2 days should be quite the show...

What should I be looking out for the next 2 days?

 

[Michchamp]

How did MC quote that post before it appeared?


Insane, time-traveling post.

 

[Michchamp]

not here on DSF. Here we mostly get an underachieving middle class white guy who doesn't understand economics blaming his failures and his misperceptions of what's happening in America on people who have more money than him and calls anyone who disagrees with his incessant inane ramblings about the wonders of socialism and big government, billionaire bootlickers.

Oh, dang, not so rough man... you're hurting my feelings.

 

[Spartanmack]

Oh, dang, not so rough man... you're hurting my feelings.

your meme game is on fire today.

 

[Gulo Blue]

There should be a lot of election cheating going on right now, right?

 

[tinselwolverine]

What should I be looking out for the next 2 days?

Ha ha.

The Georgia run off elections and the Congressional certification of the presidential election both have the makings of must see TV.

 

[sggatecl]

I should have said the it's the absolute poverty level that matters, not necessarily what the government considers to be the poverty line. And you don't have to be a commie socialist to think that, but just because you don't like it doesn't make it the problem. I don't like the low wages Walmart, Target, etc pay their workers but I see government intervention as the cause and the problem more than wealth hoarding. The reason Waltmart, Target, etc can pay such low wages is because their cronies in government are subsidizing those wages with welfare programs on top of other artificial competitive advantages, not because their stock prices have made shareholders wealthier. And I think the idea that government can fix this by increasing regulation rather than decreasing it, is crazy.

Before I go any further, just to clarify, you think if the government stopped offering assistance to workers that Amazon, Wal-Mart, etc would 'do the right thing' and pay their employees more and give them proper benefits? And that the only reason it's not trickling down is because the government is holding an umbrella?

 

[Gulo Blue]

Ha ha.

The Georgia run off elections and the Congressional certification of the presidential election both have the makings of must see TV.

...and the associated fraud! Don't forget about the fraud!