Wide spread election fraud 2020

[Spartanmack]

Before I go any further, just to clarify, you think if the government stopped offering assistance to workers that Amazon, Wal-Mart, etc would 'do the right thing' and pay their employees more and give them proper benefits? And that the only reason it's not trickling down is because the government is holding an umbrella?

Amazon already has a $15/hr minimum wage. And no, I don't think it would happen all of a sudden or that it's solely because of the welfare subsidies. But I definitely do think we're in the position we're in with the massive companies paying low wages because we have been subsidizing them with welfare programs and other perks from a bloated government that has enabled these companies to shift a big chunk of their costs onto the American taxpayer. And no, I don't think at this point you can just wipe out welfare and companies will suddenly "do the right thing" and wages will rise. It's an obvious oversimplification - the exporting of high-wage, skilled labor jobs was another significant factor that would need to be addressed in order to push low skilled wages higher (but sadly, it no longer will, and whatever progress was made over the last 4 years will quickly be undone, but orange man bad so, fuck the poor).

I do think reforming the system, taking that kind of power out of government, not making it bigger with more red tape, regulations, subsidies, higher minimum wages, etc is what we need to fix it. Remove the incentive for corruption by taking the power to do these things away from government. Forcing Walmart, Target, et al to pay some arbitrary minimum wage and raising their taxes, putting more money in the hands of a bloated, inefficient, corrupt and incompetent government will only make it worse.

 

[Spartanmack]

Ha ha.

The Georgia run off elections and the Congressional certification of the presidential election both have the makings of must see TV.

forgot about the GA elections - the timing, I mean. As for the Congressional certification, this is nothing new - the Dems did the same thing in 2000, 2004 and 2016 and nobody cared. Why it's suddenly a big deal because it's Republicans doing it this time is just more evidence of media bias.

 

[tinselwolverine]

forgot about the GA elections - the timing, I mean. As for the Congressional certification, this is nothing new - the Dems did the same thing in 2000, 2004 and 2016 and nobody cared. Why it's suddenly a big deal because it's Republicans doing it this time is just more evidence of media bias.

Yes, and I heard yesterday in 1969 too - I remember the three you mentioned from when they happened.

This will be more fun to watch - like, there are regular South Park episodes, then there was Bigger, Louder, and Uncut.

In all of those four elections, the electoral college loser had conceded the election result and was not promoting the challenge - in 2001, Al Gore literally presided over the certification of his electoral defeat - I posted a clip of that back in this thread.

The electoral loser here is doing the opposite of what the electoral loser did in each of those other four events - and in his typical buffoonish and bombastic fashion.

There might be some media bias, but Trump being Trump isn’t part of any media bias.

Trump is being Trump because Trump is Trump.

Which, again, is what is going to make this so much fun, must see TV.

EDIT: I have wondered the last four years about where is the point at which the normal liberal media bias - which is both real and also exaggerated by conservatives - end, and where does the media bias against Trump begin, just because Trump is such a pig?

 

[Gulo Blue]

Trump is being Trump because Trump is Trump.

...said the scorpion to the frog.

 

[Spartanmack]

Yes, and I heard yesterday in 1969 too - I remember the three you mentioned from when they happened.

This will be more fun to watch - like, there are regular South Park episodes, then there was Bigger, Louder, and Uncut.

In all of those four elections, the electoral college loser had conceded the election result and was not promoting the challenge - in 2001, Al Gore literally presided over the certification of his electoral defeat - I posted a clip of that back in this thread.

The electoral loser here is doing the opposite of what the electoral loser did in each of those other four events - and in his typical buffoonish and bombastic fashion.

There might be some media bias, but Trump being Trump isn?t part of any media bias.

Trump is being Trump because Trump is Trump.

Which, again, is what is going to make this so much fun, must see TV.

EDIT: I have wondered the last four years about where is the point at which the normal liberal media bias - which is both real and also exaggerated by conservatives - end, and where does the media bias against Trump begin, just because Trump is such a pig?

a distinction without a difference - Trump is being Trump, but that's not why it's being covered differently this time, at best it's an excuse if they're even claiming that's why. I have no doubt if these Republicans in Congress were challenging the results after Trump conceded the election, the media would be just as apoplectic and outraged. They'd almost certainly use the concession as fuel for discrediting the challenges.

 

[Gulo Blue]

In the Persian version, it is a turtle rather than a frog, who concludes "Truly have the sages said that to cherish a base character is to give one's honor to the wind, and to involve one's own self in embarrassment."


...but on the other hand, Breaking Bad was a great show.

 

[Spartanmack]

In the Persian version, it is a turtle rather than a frog, who concludes "Truly have the sages said that to cherish a base character is to give one's honor to the wind, and to involve one's own self in embarrassment."


...but on the other hand, Breaking Bad was a great show.

sounds familiar.

 

[tinselwolverine]

a distinction without a difference - Trump is being Trump, but that's not why it's being covered differently this time, at best it's an excuse if they're even claiming that's why. I have no doubt if these Republicans in Congress were challenging the results after Trump conceded the election, the media would be just as apoplectic and outraged. They'd almost certainly use the concession as fuel for discrediting the challenges.

What?

I have no idea what any Republicans in Congress would or wouldn?t be doing if Trump had conceded the election, which, I think it?s safe to say at this point was never going to happen.

I have no idea how the media would be responding to things that never happened.

 

[Spartanmack]

What?

I have no idea what any Republicans in Congress would or wouldn?t be doing if Trump had conceded the election, which, I think it?s safe to say at this point was never going to happen.

I have no idea how the media would be responding to things that never happened.

What can I say, I have a gift.

 

[tinselwolverine]

What can I say, I have a gift.

Nice.

 

[Spartanmack]

Nice.

It's not always as awesome as you might think. It can be a real burden at times.

 

[tinselwolverine]

It's not always as awesome as you might think. It can be a real burden at times.

Precognition is generally depicted as such in lore, such as The Dead Zone, although In Back to the Future II it wasn?t the case for Biff; but that is arguably not an apples to apples comparison, because his predictive abilities were really a result of time travel, and not actual precognition.

 

[Gulo Blue]

Precognition is generally depicted as such in lore, such as The Dead Zone, although In Back to the Future II it wasn’t the case for Biff; but that is arguably not an apples to apples comparison, because his predictive abilities were really a result of time travel, and not actual precognition.

How about Bill Gates's not actual precognition based on money? Where he tells you when covid will peak?

 

[Spartanmack]

Precognition is generally depicted as such in lore, such as The Dead Zone, although In Back to the Future II it wasn?t the case for Biff; but that is arguably not an apples to apples comparison, because his predictive abilities were really a result of time travel, and not actual precognition.

I haven't seen The Dead Zone but I can tell you pop culture tends to only add to the burden by creating unrealistic expectations. It's nothing at all like the Minority Report - I don't get to sit in a warm bath all day and night telling cops who to arrest for crimes they're about to commit. Sometimes I think I may not actually be clairvoyant and may just be hyper intuitive.

 

[tinselwolverine]

How about Bill Gates's not actual precognition based on money? Where he tells you when covid will peak?

I agree.

It?s not real precognition.

Just as money can?t buy love; neither can it buy paranormal ability.

 

[Gulo Blue]

I agree.

It’s not real precognition.

Just as money can’t buy love; neither can it buy paranormal ability.

Five thousand dollars? I had no idea it'd be so much. I won't pay it.


Well, that's all right. We can just put it right back in there.

 

[Spartanmack]

Precognition is generally depicted as such in lore, such as The Dead Zone, although In Back to the Future II it wasn’t the case for Biff; but that is arguably not an apples to apples comparison, because his predictive abilities were really a result of time travel, and not actual precognition.

Wasn’t there a show in the 90s about a guy who would get the newspaper a day early and use it to prevent horrible things from happening?

Edit: it was called Early Edition and had the sheriff from Bloodline.

 

[Michchamp]

gratuitous "DAMN Tulsi" picks to celebrate all the VotER FAuRd that must have just happened in Georgia (link)

 

[Gulo Blue]

Crazy. I wish I believed this would be a wake up call for the Republican party.

 

[Michchamp]

Crazy. I wish I believed this would be a wake up call for the Republican party.

I wish I believed the Democrats would do anything with their political power and pass Medicare For All, raise the minimum wage, and start to take our foreign policy back into state/civilian control - measures that all have broad political support - instead of just taking more money from billionaires to do nothing and continue the US's slow slide right into corporate facism.