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Public education is screwed up and it?s getting worse. School choice for everyone.

Dumbest thing you have said in a long time.

 

[byco42]

Public education is screwed up and it?s getting worse. School choice for everyone.

If the choice is the same methods and test-based outcomes of the public schools, there is no choice.

 

[Gulo Blue]

Dave Brandon: "There's only one 'Michigan Football' in the market. Why haven't you pushed ticket prices to the stratosphere?"

Old Timer in the Ath Dept: "Well, we've kinda viewed this as a family... and our fans are part of that. We already have higher ticket prices than other schools in the state, but we don't want to alienate our fanbase."

Dave Brandon: "HEY, MOTHER JONES... THIS IS BUSINESS. OPEN YOUR WALLET OR GET LOST. And get a marketing guy to start selling ads... I see this big fucking stadium with plenty of virgin ad space. I WANT ADS there."

Old Timer: *visibly flustered* "Gosh, Dave, this isn't a for-profit venture. Where do we put all that extra money? Scholarships? The general operating fund?"

Dave Brandon: "Ha. You crack me up. I got plenty of MBA buddies who need jobs --> that means MORE VPs. And they have kids... MORE Directors of Marketing, MORE Social Media Managers, and Directors of "Student Engagement." Also: you're fired. Tell em I'm 'streamlining operations' on your way out."

John U. Bacon Cliff Notes

 

[Spartanmack]

Dumbest thing you have said in a long time.

Because giving people options for better schools is dumb? School choice is only for the rich, everyone else has be educated in a state indoctrination facility.

 

[Spartanmack]

If the choice is the same methods and test-based outcomes of the public schools, there is no choice.

But that?s not the case at least with respect to methods. I?d rather send my kids to catholic school even if they have to take the state?s test at some point if it means they don?t have to be brainwashed with the latest gender theory nonsense, sex Ed and sexuality to elementary school kids, the 1619 Project lies, white privilege, etc. Here in NJ, it?s now mandated that teachers must include ?gay history? in their curriculum - whatever that is because they don?t provide any guidelines.

 

[Michchamp]

Because giving people options for better schools is dumb? School choice is only for the rich, everyone else has be educated in a state indoctrination facility.

making schools worse for all the families who's schools lose funding under "school choice" won't change the fact that rich people can always send their kids to private schools.

 

[Michchamp]

But that?s not the case at least with respect to methods. I?d rather send my kids to catholic school even if they have to take the state?s test at some point if it means they don?t have to be brainwashed with the latest gender theory nonsense, sex Ed and sexuality to elementary school kids, the 1619 Project lies, white privilege, etc. Here in NJ, it?s now mandated that teachers must include ?gay history? in their curriculum - whatever that is because they don?t provide any guidelines.

huh?

 

[sggatecl]

if it means they don?t have to be brainwashed with the latest gender theory nonsense, sex Ed and sexuality to elementary school kids, the 1619 Project lies, white privilege, etc. Here in NJ, it?s now mandated that teachers must include ?gay history? in their curriculum - whatever that is because they don?t provide any guidelines.

How do you make a mandate if you don't have guidelines?

 

[tomdalton22]

they could just show this video. Drunk Gay history.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4C8QudlzaQc

 

[Spartanmack]

making schools worse for all the families who's schools lose funding under "school choice" won't change the fact that rich people can always send their kids to private schools.

it won't but it will give other kids choice and at least mean that you don't have to be rich to get out of underperforming public schools. Hopefully it will be a wake up call to the idiots running and ruining public schools if they have to compete for those dollars instead of just taking them for granted.

 

[Spartanmack]

How do you make a mandate if you don't have guidelines?

that's a great question and it's what my brother-in-law, a high school history teacher is trying to figure out. There's no curriculum, there are no guidelines for what needs to be taught or how much time needs to be spent on it, there are no text books. I guess he can talk about the Stonewall Riots or something like that.

But a better question might be, wtf is gay history? I don't recall being taught heterosexual history or being told that it mattered whether a historical figure was gay, straight, trans, etc.

 

[Spartanmack]

huh?

what exactly are you struggling with? is it that you think these things aren't happening or you think it's appropriate that these things are happening, or is it something else you're not getting?

 

[tinselwolverine]

But a better question might be, wtf is gay history? I don't recall being taught heterosexual history or being told that it mattered whether a historical figure was gay, straight, trans, etc.

Well, the students are too young for drunk history.

Although graphic and explicit description of sexual congress of any manner to minors would also probably be problematic.

 

[tinselwolverine]

So did Trump commit a crime?

I’m not talking about the riot, or insurrection or whatever whomever ends up prosecuting the participants charges them with.

I’m talking about his direction to Pence to arbitrarily overturn the election results.

Had Pence done that, I would see that as inarguably a crime - even possibly treason, in this situation - throwing it out there that it’s reasonable to at least discuss if it would have been treason.

But isn’t directing someone to commit a crime a crime, even if the person directed refuses?

And if the crime would have been treason, wouldn’t the requester also be guilty of treason?

And since the situation involved two people - even though Pence refused - does that make it conspiracy to commit treason?

Did defeated and soon to be former POTUS Donald Trump, in an attempt to extend his presidency, actually attempt a coup?

 

[Gulo Blue]

And since the situation involved two people - even though Pence refused - does that make it conspiracy to commit treason?

It's an interesting question. When police go undercover and sell weapons, don't they get people for conspiracy even though they don't intend to keep up their end of the bargain?

 

[Michchamp]

what exactly are you struggling with? is it that you think these things aren't happening or you think it's appropriate that these things are happening, or is it something else you're not getting?

If your decision is to move your kids to Catholic schools, I think you're confusing the "school choice" issue with "school vouchers," where you get public money to send your kids to a private religious school (which would be unconstitutional anyway).

 

[Gulo Blue]

The idea of avoiding conspiracy because nobody will conspire with you is kind of funny.

 

[Michchamp]

that's a great question and it's what my brother-in-law, a high school history teacher is trying to figure out. There's no curriculum, there are no guidelines for what needs to be taught or how much time needs to be spent on it, there are no text books. I guess he can talk about the Stonewall Riots or something like that.

But a better question might be, wtf is gay history? I don't recall being taught heterosexual history or being told that it mattered whether a historical figure was gay, straight, trans, etc.

No guidelines? Does your brother-in-law not have internet access?

Is he being mandated to teach a topic without his district providing an approved materials or curriculum? I find that hard to believe, but no harder than your usual "Can you BELIEVE what those liberals are saying now?" rants

 

[byco42]

So did Trump commit a crime?

I?m not talking about the riot, or insurrection or whatever whomever ends up prosecuting the participants charges them with.

I?m talking about his direction to Pence to arbitrarily overturn the election results.

Is asking Pence to ask the contested states to "send electors back in contested states (sic) legislatures for a vote to recertify who won the presidential election" a criminal act, when the VP has, according to him, no such authority, and he refuses outright?

I don't think so. Ill-advised, yes, but criminal?

 

[Michchamp]

what exactly are you struggling with? is it that you think these things aren't happening or you think it's appropriate that these things are happening, or is it something else you're not getting?

By the way... I always kinda assumed after reading your posting here... in general, that your kids were in private Catholic schools in order to avoid all the "brainwashing" and what-have-you they might be exposed to at scary, communist, state-operated indoctrination centers. They aren't?