Your Tigers Offseason

[zoombabyzoom]

Sure, this might be early. And our voice doesn't mean anything but what moves would you make to improve the Tigers for next season.

I think we could package a deal for Brian Roberts from Baltimore. He is recovering from a really bad year and a concussion. I think we might be able to get him for Al Alburquerque and a PTBNL.

I still think Gio Gonzales could be traded. Obviously Oakland has a surplus of starting pitching and I dont see them using a 6 or even 7 man rotation. However maybe it will be easier to pry Brian Anderson since he hurt his pitching elbow. So for Anderson throw Delmon Young, and a couple prospects like Andy Oliver/Daniel Fields.

Ryan Ludwick is someone I would target to replace Young. Sure he doesn't have the best bat but his defense is top shelf. Or we could look at nabbing Jason Kubel.

1. CF Jackson
2. 2B Roberts
3. LF Boesch
4. 1B Cabrera
5. DH Martinez
6. C Avila
7. SS Peralta
8. RF Kubel or Ludwick
9. 3B Inge

Bench - Kelly, Raburn, Santiago and one other player (Dirks maybe)

Rotation - Verlander / Scherzer / Anderson / Fister / Porcello
Bullpen - Valverde, Beniot, Coke, Purcey, Schlereth, Perry, and one other player

Those two open spots Id figure would get sorted out in Spring Training. I think these small(er) types of moves will not only help our lineup but help on defense. Also, I think the Tigers Organization has a sit down with Porcello. Tell him this is your make or break year. If the All-Star break comes and we are not impressed he may go to the long relief role while Turner comes up from the minors.

 

[tycobb420]

Find a 2b, backup Catcher, and a leadoff man. I can live with Inge/Kelly for a year. Add bullpen depth and a 5th starter. Give Turner the inside shot at #5 in the Spring, but hold an open competition.

 

[justinrose74]

Uh, Delmon Young will be in LF with Boesch in RF

 

[mhughes0021]

Reyes SS
Peralta 3B
Cano 2B
Cabrera 1B
Martinez DH
Young LF
Boesch RF
Avila C
Jackson CF

SP Verlander
SP Sabathia
SP Fister
SP Scherzer
SP Porcello

CHAMPIONSHIP!

 

[kalinecountry]

Rich what? Richmond![/color]]Sure, this might be early. And our voice doesn't mean anything but what moves would you make to improve the Tigers for next season.

I think we could package a deal for Brian Roberts from Baltimore. He is recovering from a really bad year and a concussion. I think we might be able to get him for Al Alburquerque and a PTBNL.

I still think Gio Gonzales could be traded. Obviously Oakland has a surplus of starting pitching and I dont see them using a 6 or even 7 man rotation. However maybe it will be easier to pry Brian Anderson since he hurt his pitching elbow. So for Anderson throw Delmon Young, and a couple prospects like Andy Oliver/Daniel Fields.

Ryan Ludwick is someone I would target to replace Young. Sure he doesn't have the best bat but his defense is top shelf. Or we could look at nabbing Jason Kubel.

1. CF Jackson
2. 2B Roberts
3. LF Boesch
4. 1B Cabrera
5. DH Martinez
6. C Avila
7. SS Peralta
8. RF Kubel or Ludwick
9. 3B Inge

Bench - Kelly, Raburn, Santiago and one other player (Dirks maybe)

Rotation - Verlander / Scherzer / Anderson / Fister / Porcello
Bullpen - Valverde, Beniot, Coke, Purcey, Schlereth, Perry, and one other player

Those two open spots Id figure would get sorted out in Spring Training. I think these small(er) types of moves will not only help our lineup but help on defense. Also, I think the Tigers Organization has a sit down with Porcello. Tell him this is your make or break year. If the All-Star break comes and we are not impressed he may go to the long relief role while Turner comes up from the minors.

If Roberts becomes healthy, he could be a good player for 2B, I don't know as much about Gio Gonzalez, good thoughts zoombaby.

I just want to see a couple of players that can get on base more often than what the Tigers did the first 3/4 months with the top of the order shuffle of players that batted .200/.280/.300.
I would at least ask about brett gardner and ben zobrist as well, and maybe brandon mccarthy as the 5th starter.

 

[zoombabyzoom]

Good ideas Ron.

 

[msuspartan]

I don't see why Boesch and Young shouldn't be our outfielders next year. Let's fill the holes at 2b, 3b, and middle relief first. Trade anyone in the minors besides Jacob and Nick.

We can find some speed, batting power, and OBP for our leadoff hitter between new players at 2B and 3B. If Illitch still wants to spend money after these holes are filled then fine by me.

 

[turok]

I want DD to trade for/sign a #3 LH SP (Fister is our #2 until proven otherwise) obtain an average/ above-average 2B Kelly Johnson/Brian Roberts? (or SS by moving Peralta to 2B) Reyes? and then pry Shin Soo-Choo away from the Tribe in exchange for perhaps Porcello+Raburn. Get EJax (the ex-Tigers SP) back from the Cards to make up for the loss of Porcello. Maybe the Tigers could be involved in a three team trade, so that Porcello ends up on the Cards, and the Cards trade some players to the Tribe to make up for it. Don't care if we lose the mercurial hot/cold Raburn, then maybe platoon Boesch and Young in LF.

Inge and AJax can then be dropped to #8-9 in the lineup.

 

[randyf10]

Mhughes how do you propose we get Cano to play 2b? The Yankess might take Cabrera for him but no one else off of our roster. As to platooning Young & Boesch, we aren't going to tender Young to platoon him, he will cost around 7M, not the kinda of salary you platoon. I would be interested in a flyer on B Roberts after a good physical exam, but than I would have him lead-off unless Jackson shows some progress in Spring Training to improve his OBP, move Ajax to 9th and take some pressure off of him.

 

[austindayeisaboss]

sorry but zoom you are stupid why in the world would we trade delmon? if we could get roberts do it right away he can bat leadoff and play 2b thats 2 holes we need filled. but seriosly, trading delmon when we can play young in lf and boesch in rf.

 

[buddyboy2121]

sorry but zoom you are stupid why in the world would we trade delmon? if we could get roberts do it right away he can bat leadoff and play 2b thats 2 holes we need filled. but seriosly, trading delmon when we can play young in lf and boesch in rf.

yeah i was thinking the same thing why would we trade al al for a guy who most likely wont play again for at least 2-3 years and a 25 year old former top prospect who is performing for a guy with elbow issues.

 

[Thumb]

sorry but zoom you are stupid why in the world would we trade delmon? if we could get roberts do it right away he can bat leadoff and play 2b thats 2 holes we need filled. but seriosly, trading delmon when we can play young in lf and boesch in rf.

Because Delmon Young sucks horse cocks.

You're spoiled because you saw him really do much better than he usually does after the trade, but he's an abortion in LF, and is not the bat he was ever expected to be, so lay off the all the #1 overall pick shit about him, he's not good.

He'll be as fat as his brother Dmitri soon too.

 

[mhughes0021]

Mhughes how do you propose we get Cano to play 2b? The Yankess might take Cabrera for him but no one else off of our roster. As to platooning Young & Boesch, we aren't going to tender Young to platoon him, he will cost around 7M, not the kinda of salary you platoon. I would be interested in a flyer on B Roberts after a good physical exam, but than I would have him lead-off unless Jackson shows some progress in Spring Training to improve his OBP, move Ajax to 9th and take some pressure off of him.

The yanks have to pick up an option for Cano for him not to be a FA if i remember correctly. Obviously getting Cano, Reyes and Sabathia isnt going to happen and was meant to be sarcastic in nature. Its slightly sad that i had to explain that...

 

[buddyboy2121]

sorry but zoom you are stupid why in the world would we trade delmon? if we could get roberts do it right away he can bat leadoff and play 2b thats 2 holes we need filled. but seriosly, trading delmon when we can play young in lf and boesch in rf.

Because Delmon Young sucks horse cocks.

You're spoiled because you saw him really do much better than he usually does after the trade, but he's an abortion in LF, and is not the bat he was ever expected to be, so lay off the all the #1 overall pick shit about him, he's not good.

He'll be as fat as his brother Dmitri soon too.

uhh delmon hit .298 21 homers and 112 rbis in 2010 and the reason he didn't in 2011 is he was injured for the first 3 months of the season.

 

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Because Delmon Young sucks horse cocks.

You're spoiled because you saw him really do much better than he usually does after the trade, but he's an abortion in LF, and is not the bat he was ever expected to be, so lay off the all the #1 overall pick shit about him, he's not good.

He'll be as fat as his brother Dmitri soon too.

uhh delmon hit .298 21 homers and 112 rbis in 2010 and the reason he didn't in 2011 is he was injured for the first 3 months of the season. [/quote:03dssdf8]

And Austin Jackson hit .300 in 2010, it's called an anomaly. Check his other seasons.

Also, RBI's are a team stat, replace 2010 Delmon Young with Cabrera and it's probably 130 RBI, he was hitting behind Mauer and Mourneu.

If he was as good as everyone pretends then why did both the Rays and the Twins give up on him?

 

[Mitchrapp]

I think its worth keeping inexpensive and still young. I'd be lying if I said I paid attention to DY before he got to Detroit but since he got here he just mashes the ball. Anomoly or not you keep him and see what he can do as his trade value is not huge.

 

[kingofdetroit57]

If we went on the cheaper side this offseason, we could go after Buehrle as the LHP, Coco Crisp as our roving 4th OF and leadoff hitter, Joel Peralta as our 6th/7th inning guy, and Phillips for 2B. This could solve a lot of issues and would probably cost less than one big time FA deal would.

1. Crisp - LF
2. Phillips - 2B
3. Boesch - RF
4. Cabrera - 1B
5. Martinez - DH
6. Peralta - SS
7. Avila - C
8. Inge - 3B
9. Jackson - CF

Bench - Young (Corner OF/PH/DH), Kelly (Anywhere), Santiago (middle IF), Raburn (IF/OF/PH)

Rotation - Verlander, Fister, Buehrle, Scherzer, Porcello

BP - Coke, Schlereth, Perry/Zumaya, Al Al, Peralta, Benoit, Valverde

 

[jimrice]

Mitch[/color]]I think its worth keeping inexpensive and still young. I'd be lying if I said I paid attention to DY before he got to Detroit but since he got here he just mashes the ball. Anomoly or not you keep him and see what he can do as his trade value is not huge.

It's estimated that he'll get around 7 million. I don't know what the Tigers plan on spending next year, but that 7 million could be applied to a bigger need, like 2B.

Assuming there is some kind of budget, the Tigers already have Raburn in the spot where Delmon Young fits, so it's a waste of money. There's not much difference between the two players unless you apply the estimated 5 million in savings to another contract.

If the choice is Raburn or Young, there's some argument. If the choice is Raburn plus another player with the extra 5 million saved verses Young, I think the choice is much clearer.

 

[food4thought]

Mitch[/color]]I think its worth keeping inexpensive and still young. I'd be lying if I said I paid attention to DY before he got to Detroit but since he got here he just mashes the ball. Anomoly or not you keep him and see what he can do as his trade value is not huge.

It's estimated that he'll get around 7 million. I don't know what the Tigers plan on spending next year, but that 7 million could be applied to a bigger need, like 2B.

Assuming there is some kind of budget, the Tigers already have Raburn in the spot where Delmon Young fits, so it's a waste of money. There's not much difference between the two players unless you apply the estimated 5 million in savings to another contract.

If the choice is Raburn or Young, there's some argument. If the choice is Raburn plus another player with the extra 5 million saved verses Young, I think the choice is much clearer.

2B and 3B is a wasteland in FA, so the savings wouldn't matter to the lineup (although it could be applied to the rotation or BP).

 

[jimrice]

It's estimated that he'll get around 7 million. I don't know what the Tigers plan on spending next year, but that 7 million could be applied to a bigger need, like 2B.

Assuming there is some kind of budget, the Tigers already have Raburn in the spot where Delmon Young fits, so it's a waste of money. There's not much difference between the two players unless you apply the estimated 5 million in savings to another contract.

If the choice is Raburn or Young, there's some argument. If the choice is Raburn plus another player with the extra 5 million saved verses Young, I think the choice is much clearer.

2B and 3B is a wasteland in FA, so the savings wouldn't matter to the lineup (although it could be applied to the rotation or BP).

It could also change the way the Tigers pursue trades.