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Nick Castellanos promoted to Erie

I see the Raburn lovers are out in force today....LOL... The guy has 20-30 good games of fielding at 2nd base and now he is considered good.. The guy made routine plays look hard.. Hopefully he can find his hitting in Toledo and come back and help the weak corner outfielder's.. But second base... Please lets look elsewhere... Remember he ended up at only .256 last year... His third season in a row of dropping statistics..
 
You add so much to a conversation we're all blessed.

its because ive decided that you're either such a persistent troll or so damn stupid that arguing with you is a waste of my time, so i have found other ways to amuse myself. kind of the way i deal with chica now.
 
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He's has a .982 fielding % at 2nd but a -.03 war which basically saids he's not good.
 
its because ive decided that you're either such a persistent troll or so damn stupid that arguing with you is a waste of my time, so i have found other ways to amuse myself. kind of the way i deal with chica now.

Of course you do. How about you add to the discussion by giving an opinion rather than throwing out a one line snip.
 
I see the Raburn lovers are out in force today....LOL... The guy has 20-30 good games of fielding at 2nd base and now he is considered good.. The guy made routine plays look hard.. Hopefully he can find his hitting in Toledo and come back and help the weak corner outfielder's.. But second base... Please lets look elsewhere... Remember he ended up at only .256 last year... His third season in a row of dropping statistics..


What Raburn lovers?

Nobody defended Raburn at second, only the idea that the front office never expected it to be this bad.

You complain when people point stuff out about you Bob, but have no problem jumping to conclusions or just plain making shit up.
 
Of course you do. How about you add to the discussion by giving an opinion rather than throwing out a one line snip.
ive made my opinions known before (including in this thread if you actually bother read close enough), i feel no need to repeat them ad infinitum just to please you. one-liners are so much more fun.
 
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Of course you do. How about you add to the discussion by giving an opinion rather than throwing out a one line snip.


This conversation started out about Castellanos and the idea he might be traded, you keep steering it to Raburn.
 
This conversation started out about Castellanos and the idea he might be traded, you keep steering it to Raburn.

I didn't steer it to Raburn it got steered because of the talk Mr. I wants to win now so I was questioning it that if true, why didn't he get a 2B?
 
theres also the fact that right now im basically really bored killing time before i have to go to work and it is currently amusing me.
 
I didn't steer it to Raburn it got steered because of the talk Mr. I wants to win now so I was questioning it that if true, why didn't he get a 2B?

And I explained because second base was expected to be a weak spot. There were not any real upgrade options available outside of the ones who were not going anywhere.
 
I hear we like having conversations about our conversations in our conversations.

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And I explained because second base was expected to be a weak spot. There were not any real upgrade options available outside of the ones who were not going anywhere.

And that's why we're here, a disagreement. And suddenly you want to bash my head with a brick..:cheers:
 
What Raburn lovers?

Nobody defended Raburn at second, only the idea that the front office never expected it to be this bad.

You complain when people point stuff out about you Bob, but have no problem jumping to conclusions or just plain making shit up.


What the heck... Hey at least I admit when I am wrong... You just always want to be right. You need to re-read things.. What am I making up... RR is a bad fielder at second base that had a good start to the season fielding. When have I every made up crap about RR.. Please tell me when? I don't make any conclusions other then you can't have a .145 hitter bat anywhere in your line-up let alone batting second in a game even if he does hit in freaking August. I know he hits in the second half... But.. still Have you acknowledged his numbers have dropped every year the last 3 years... it is a fact... I posted that... No matter what rebbiv posts in the second half last year six of his last 7 homers were verses LHP.. Fact... He only played 45 games in the second half last year starting 31.. For a good month starting from July it was mostly verses LHP. Look it up.. I did... He started hitting somewhat last year but everyone acts like he is this savoir when in fact if you even his good and bad months out what do you get...A platoon player..
In 2011 in 56 games he had 10 errors at second base.. fact. His range is not good.. when Have I never not acknowledged he is fielding much better this year. I have.. But we all hold our breath when a ball is hit his way and so do you... I may have an opinion but i don't make anything up without stats to prove it. You talk about complaining like your a expert.. Since when is it OK for you to defend your point of view and not other posters. Just weird..

You know what we really need is to break down his good and bad months and see how many games he truly helps the tigers..
 
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Bob you came in here and called people (me I'm assuming and others I'm not sure of) Raburn lover(s).

Then said that a few games and we all think he's a good fielder.

Fact is nobody I have seen on these boards is a Raburn lover, nobody (certianly not I anyhow) has ever defended Raburns poor hitting this year.

I have never called him a good fielder(that's what I mean by you making stuff up), and I have never seen anyone else call him that. I have said his fielding was not his problem, and I stand by that.

You're trying to bring the whole LHP / RHP into this argument.....and nobody is making that. and I might point out it's been disproven, but who cares. like I told Mitch this discussion was never about Raburn.

So yeah, I guess I always want to be right, but maybe point out what I'm supposed to be wrong about.


I have no problem with anyone defending their point of view, unless their point of view wrongly assumes something about the other poster. So let me reiterate: I do not now, and never have, Defended the dismal hitting Ryan Raburn displayed in early 2012, nor have I ever called him a "good" fielder, I merely point out that he has not been bad, and if people were not so biased, they would have seen that as a positive, not a negative.
 
Bob you came in here and called people (me I'm assuming and others I'm not sure of) Raburn lover(s).

Then said that a few games and we all think he's a good fielder.

Fact is nobody I have seen on these boards is a Raburn lover, nobody (certianly not I anyhow) has ever defended Raburns poor hitting this year.

I have never called him a good fielder(that's what I mean by you making stuff up), and I have never seen anyone else call him that. I have said his fielding was not his problem, and I stand by that.

You're trying to bring the whole LHP / RHP into this argument.....and nobody is making that. and I might point out it's been disproven, but who cares. like I told Mitch this discussion was never about Raburn.

So yeah, I guess I always want to be right, but maybe point out what I'm supposed to be wrong about.


I have no problem with anyone defending their point of view, unless their point of view wrongly assumes something about the other poster. So let me reiterate: I do not now, and never have, Defended the dismal hitting Ryan Raburn displayed in early 2012, nor have I ever called him a "good" fielder, I merely point out that he has not been bad, and if people were not so biased, they would have seen that as a positive, not a negative.



OK whatever... You win.. ... No more ****ing Raburn for me till he comes back up.. Not sure what i am biased about... Maybe the savior will come up and hit in August or September... Nothing about his hitting was disproved... For once why doesn't everyone that LIKES Raburn look at his bad months for a change.. Or the fact that his hitting has regressed the last 3 years.. Opps I forgot this was about his fielding... Disprove those 10 errors he had... **** DD and Jim for even think he could be a every day player...
 
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