2016 Draft- Who ya got?

[dubbsco]

That's not the point. Mitch isn't being paid 20 gazillion dollars a year like Stafford is. That's his job, he's the professional. His job is to find wide open receivers and move in the pocket, not ours.

 

[Mitchrapp]

Go show him how it's done Mitch, no missing any open receivers even though your constantly getting destroyed by a free rushing 250+ lb linemen.

You must not understand the question. WHEN HE HAS TIME. Are you meaning if he has guys rushing him all day, and suddenly he doesn't that he is already rattled and it's not his fault? Weak. Lots of QB get pressure just as much as him in previous years and still perform.

 

[LKP]

Stafford is being paid like an average starting QB. Stafford does make a lot of plays even with no support. 39% pressure and 3.6 YPC is beyond pathetic.

 

[LKP]

Weapons need to get open still
weapons need to get to the correct spot (see Abdullah stopping his route, Peterson pick against Calvin)
It could be obvious passing play due to no run game
Bad play call
Drops
could be shaken from all the pressure on the previous 20 plays

 

[Mitchrapp]

Bottom line: Take away the pressure plays.They don't exist here. Matt is still near the bottom at being efficient.

 

[Mitchrapp]

Weapons need to get open still
weapons need to get to the correct spot (see Abdullah stopping his route, Peterson pick against Calvin)
It could be obvious passing play due to no run game
Bad play call
Drops
could be shaken from all the pressure on the previous 20 plays

Then he shouldn't be a QB in the NFL.

 

[Mitchrapp]

Anyway, with the chart I linked earlier, 2014. Matt was 28th when under pressure and 22nd with no pressure. Efficiency with a capital e/E.

 

[tomdalton22]

Stafford is being paid like an average starting QB. Stafford does make a lot of plays even with no support. 39% pressure and 3.6 YPC is beyond pathetic.

#5 QB in cap hit

#24 QB rating

 

[LKP]

Matt had to deal with no run game, drops and some separation issues. Stacked secondaries playing the pass every play.

Give him Marshawn Lynch or LeVeon Bell or Jamaal Charles or Eddie Lacy or Adrian Peterson or Matt Forte and that might not happen.

 

[LKP]

The cap hit is due to the old CBA. We've gone over this. This is not the Lions or Stafford's fault. The league was fucked up with the rookie scale. The extension lowered his cap hits in 2013, 2014 and it remained the same in 2015. 2016 and 2017 was backloaded for a reason (rising cap).

 

[Mitchrapp]

Matt had to deal with no run game, drops and some separation issues. Stacked secondaries playing the pass every play.

Give him Marshawn Lynch or LeVeon Bell or Jamaal Charles or Eddie Lacy or Adrian Peterson or Matt Forte and that might not happen.

NE isn't much better in run game. The problem with Detroit is because they suck so bad that even when Bell was running good, they fall so far behind (Matt's INT didn't help) they abandoned it.

 

[LKP]

NE is better in proteciton and defense.

And he gets much better run support

http://espn.go.com/nfl/team/stats/_/name/ne/new-england-patriots

4.6 Blount, 4.9 Dion Lewis. Brady 1.1 YPC is what is dragging them down.

Lions best YPC is Stafford with 4.5 YPC

 

[tomdalton22]

Matt had to deal with no run game, drops and some separation issues. Stacked secondaries playing the pass every play.

Give him Marshawn Lynch or LeVeon Bell or Jamaal Charles or Eddie Lacy or Adrian Peterson or Matt Forte and that might not happen.

Bell, Charles and Forte are out for the season. Actually, Charles was missing from KC and they just beat Stafford's Lions by 5 TDs

 

[Mitchrapp]

Another run game not much better, NYG. Eli is lighting it up, the same ELI you said was worse than Matt.

 

[LKP]

I just proved the Pats have a great run game. Stop lying Mitch. Or learn to look at stats.

 

[LKP]

West is doing well for KC. Bell and Abdullah and hte Lions run blockers are not doing that well. Or the run game is abandoned because the D can't make a stop.

 

[dubbsco]

Stafford can't hold Eli's jock. Dude's won two Super Bowls, both of those runs he was fantastic.

 

[LKP]

West has 4.6 YPC. I would kill for Bell or Abdullah ot have that

 

[brewer229]

You know the slaps are getting desperate when they are asking fans to play QB. If I played QB for the Lions this year, they would only have 1 less win. Year 7 and we are still talking about what COULD be.

Guys are open all the time. Look at the TD smith threw to Maclin. That's open in the NFL. You just need to make a good throw. You shouldn't need 2 yards of separation for 4 seconds to make a pass.

 

[Mitchrapp]

I just proved the Pats have a great run game. Stop lying Mitch. Or learn to look at stats.

Yeah they do, 5 more yards a game than Detroit. Defenses know Brady is going to pass and he still kills. Of course one's a hof player and the other is a bum..