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2016 NFL Draft Thread

tonyballs said:
No, it wasn't. But you wanted to know what the "thinking" was behind the pick? That's it...he's a long snapper and a good one i guess. Not rocket science...
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My 'thinking' is that they would like to replace an aging Mulbach but didn't want to get worse at the position. From all accounts, this guy will be in the league as a premium LS as long as he wants. Lions might not have wanted to risk him choosing another team as an UDFA.

With how well (imo) the first 4 rounds went, I'm not going to get pissy about Quinn reaching on a guy he clearly has a strong opinion for even if the experts all hate it.
 
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sggatecl said:
My 'thinking' is that they would like to replace an aging Mulbach but didn't want to get worse at the position. From all accounts, this guy will be in the league as a premium LS as long as he wants. Lions might not have wanted to risk him choosing another team as an UDFA.

With how well (imo) the first 4 rounds went, I'm not going to get pissy about Quinn reaching on a guy he clearly has a strong opinion for even if the experts all hate it.
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Hey, man...awesome analysis lol. After the 5th rd i kind of lose interest anyways. All I know is the kid can snap the ball with pin point accuracy. Good enough for me.

And for some reason and i dont know why i remember this. I can recall the Patriots drafting a long snapper or 2 the last few years i think. Maybe Quinn has a thing for those guys lol.
 
tonyballs said:
Hey, man...awesome analysis lol. After the 5th rd i kind of lose interest anyways. All I know is the kid can snap the ball with pin point accuracy. Good enough for me.

And for some reason and i dont know why i remember this. I can recall the Patriots drafting a long snapper or 2 the last few years i think. Maybe Quinn has a thing for those guys lol.
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Sure did. In the 5th round too.

http://www.sbnation.com/lookit/2015...longsnapper-so-nfl-network-aired-long-snapper
 
According to Wikipedia the Pats took a long snapper last year: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_snapper#In_the_NFL

Our guy isn't the highest drafted long snapper ever, but it's close. Drafting one at all is pretty rare, although the Seahawks took one recently too, apparently. Not bad company to be in....

I'm pretty happy with this draft overall. Quinn did well enough otherwise, and if this guy is on the roster for years, I'd say it's worth it.
 
http://www.detroitlions.com/media-c...nference/aaabb75f-3640-45c2-821d-f10c02190898
Webvideo Bob Quinn post-draft press conference. 12 1/2 minutes.
Lions GM Bob Quinn talks after the third day of the 2016 NFL Draft.
Lions.com

http://www.detroitlions.com/media-c...e-OBrien/383fbf66-05c9-40b2-aa7e-6c3eb77cf76b
Webvideo Post-draft 1 on 1 with Kyle O'Brien.
Tori Petry talks with Lions director of player personnel Kyle O'5 1/2 minutes.Brien after the 2016 NFL Draft about the Lions' top draft picks and how things played out this year in the draft room.
Lions.com

http://www.detroitlions.com/media-c...ob-Quinn/b77115bd-1130-4398-92a0-8fdd32665144
Webvideo Post-draft 1 on 1 with GM Bob Quinn. 4 1/2 minutes.
Tori Petry talks with GM Bob Quinn after the 2016 NFL Draft about his first draft class as a GM.
Lions.com
 
tonyballs said:
No, it wasn't. But you wanted to know what the "thinking" was behind the pick? That's it...he's a long snapper and a good one i guess. Not rocket science...
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I think my question was fairly obvious, but let me clarify. Obviously he's a good long snapper to be drafted. That much wasn't in dispute. The question is does it make sense to use a draft pick on a position that plays such a limited role, that we didn't really seem to have a need for?

Maybe it does? I'm no GM and I'm not claiming it was a horrible pick, but it was unusual to me. I thought it was interesting at the time because I don't often see long snappers drafted. As others have pointed out, it's been done before and by good teams so I'll let it play out. You don't have to be so condescending. It was just an honest question.
 
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UMRules06 said:
I think my question was fairly obvious, but let me clarify. Obviously he's a good long snapper to be drafted. That much wasn't in dispute. The question is does it make sense to use a draft pick on a position that plays such a limited role, that we didn't really seem to have a need for?

Maybe it does? I'm no GM and I'm not claiming it was a horrible pick, but it was unusual to me. I thought it was interesting at the time because I don't often see long snappers drafted. As others have pointed out, it's been done before and by good teams so I'll let it play out. You don't have to be so condescending. It was just an honest question.
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Didn't mean to ...sorry lol. Bad habits are hard to curb. Mulbach is 36 tho i believe...
 
tonyballs said:
Meh...35 lol. They paid a boatload of money to Mulbach too. Cutting him saves almost half a MIL against the cap. Smart strategy
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But they have to sign the new LS, which will probably cost close to 500k. So it is essentially a wash right?

I'm not sure what the difference is between the best LS in the league an the worst. But to me it is a 6th round pick, so in the end it probably doesn't matter. However I highly doubt this move was made to save money.
 
Here' my issue with the pick....

I understand that HORRIBLE play by the Long Snapper can cost a team a win. In the very rare event that an injury has occurred, it's been bad.

But has there ever been a time when EXCEPTIONAL play by the Long Snapper has won his team a game? No, clearly not.

The best LS in the league is going to place the ball in the exact same place the middle of the road long snappers will. Having the BEST there is, doesn't really matter. Acceptable will do in this case.

So unless there is a game plan for the amazingly good top LS in the draft to win us some games, we didn't need the best... we needed good enough, and we didn't need to draft one to get that.

Hell, we had that. And if we weren't content there, we had a whole slew of options we didn't need to blow a a pick on.

I do not like the pick, and I never will. He may be the best ever to... long snap... but he wasn't worth a draft pick.
 
inkfreq said:
Here' my issue with the pick....

I understand that HORRIBLE play by the Long Snapper can cost a team a win. In the very rare event that an injury has occurred, it's been bad.

But has there ever been a time when EXCEPTIONAL play by the Long Snapper has won his team a game? No, clearly not.

The best LS in the league is going to place the ball in the exact same place the middle of the road long snappers will. Having the BEST there is, doesn't really matter. Acceptable will do in this case.

So unless there is a game plan for the amazingly good top LS in the draft to win us some games, we didn't need the best... we needed good enough, and we didn't need to draft one to get that.

Hell, we had that. And if we weren't content there, we had a whole slew of options we didn't need to blow a a pick on.

I do not like the pick, and I never will. He may be the best ever to... long snap... but he wasn't worth a draft pick.
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It's possible that there is a point saving tackle somewhere out there made by the long snapper.
 
inkfreq said:
Here' my issue with the pick....

I understand that HORRIBLE play by the Long Snapper can cost a team a win. In the very rare event that an injury has occurred, it's been bad.

But has there ever been a time when EXCEPTIONAL play by the Long Snapper has won his team a game? No, clearly not.

The best LS in the league is going to place the ball in the exact same place the middle of the road long snappers will. Having the BEST there is, doesn't really matter. Acceptable will do in this case.

So unless there is a game plan for the amazingly good top LS in the draft to win us some games, we didn't need the best... we needed good enough, and we didn't need to draft one to get that.

Hell, we had that. And if we weren't content there, we had a whole slew of options we didn't need to blow a a pick on.

I do not like the pick, and I never will. He may be the best ever to... long snap... but he wasn't worth a draft pick.
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By the same token, wouldn't you want a guy who may snap the ball consistently well enough to not put a team in a situation that loses the game? Special Teams to me is just about execution. You aren't trying to win or lose games with special teams. You're just trying to not make mistakes. This was just a long-term move to ensure we don't have a drop off in that area.
 
The reality is we used a 6th round pick on him. Sure everyone here on the board had someone we would rather see them pick, but it was a 6th rounder
 
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