2023 NFL Draft

[tomdalton22]

Speaking of the draft...the Lions need to re-build their RB room. Swift should be on the roster next season and then say goodbye. No way you offer him his 5th year or extend him.

 

[LKP]

Speaking of the draft...the Lions need to re-build their RB room. Swift should be on the roster next season and then say goodbye. No way you offer him his 5th year or extend him.

Agree due to Swift's lack of health. One more cheap year in 2023. Jamaal Williams is a FA and Reynolds on IR now and will be replaced. Another 2nd or 3rd round RB coming up at some point. Maybe they wait a year since they have Swift one more year but then need a FA vet RB. Decent FA RB class and hopefully not expensive.

 

[tomdalton22]

Agree due to Swift's lack of health. One more cheap year in 2023. Jamaal Williams is a FA and Reynolds on IR now and will be replaced. Another 2nd or 3rd round RB coming up at some point. Maybe they wait a year since they have Swift one more year but then need a FA vet RB. Decent FA RB class and hopefully not expensive.

If I ran a team, I would probably draft a 3rd or 4th round RB almost every year. Continue to fill the room with cheap/young RBs and never sign them to a second contract.

 

[LKP]

If I ran a team, I would probably draft a 3rd or 4th round RB almost every year. Continue to fill the room with cheap/young RBs and never sign them to a second contract.

Lions do have two 2nd round picks and the early 3rd to get a 4 year cheap RB that could split time with Swift to start. Depends on what they do in FA on defense/QB and Round 1 too.

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/free-agents/all/running-back//

Barkley will be tagged but Miles Sanders, Rashaad Penny, Kareem Hunt (older now though), Mostert, Foreman D'Ernest Johnson, Darrel Henderson, Montgomery, Devin Singletary would be intriguing and cheaper if they all hit the market. Sanders will be costly though I think.

Breida, Jeff Wilson, Jamaal Williams back, Sony Michel, Ronald Jones, our boy Ammer Abdullah (KR) the super cheap options.

If don't want to use a day 2 pick on a RB, FA is actually an option this year at the right price.

 

[tomdalton22]

Lions do have two 2nd round picks and the early 3rd to get a 4 year cheap RB that could split time with Swift to start. Depends on what they do in FA on defense/QB and Round 1 too.

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/free-agents/all/running-back//

Barkley will be tagged but Miles Sanders, Rashaad Penny, Kareem Hunt (older now though), Mostert, Foreman D'Ernest Johnson, Darrel Henderson, Montgomery, Devin Singletary would be intriguing and cheaper if they all hit the market. Sanders will be costly though I think.

Breida, Jeff Wilson, Jamaal Williams back, Sony Michel, Ronald Jones, our boy Ammer Abdullah (KR) the super cheap options.

If don't want to use a day 2 pick on a RB, FA is actually an option this year at the right price.

Pray that Swift has a great start to next season and trade him for a 4th at the deadline.

 

[johnny2x2x]

If the draft were tomorrow, Detroit would have the Ram's 8th overall pick, and their own 11th pick. Pretty crazy that the Rams pick could be higher than Detroit's own.

What it means is that you've got the resources you need to move up in the draft if you grade one of the QBs as a must have franchise can't miss QB.

Hopefully the Rams lose out and you get a top 5 pick from them.

 

[LKP]

If the draft were tomorrow, Detroit would have the Ram's 8th overall pick, and their own 11th pick. Pretty crazy that the Rams pick could be higher than Detroit's own.

What it means is that you've got the resources you need to move up in the draft if you grade one of the QBs as a must have franchise can't miss QB.

Hopefully the Rams lose out and you get a top 5 pick from them.

Kupp hurt his ankle again. Stafford concussion and elbow. Their Oline in shambles. We are getting a good pick from them

I'd rather use two 1st round picks on 2 good players (one being a QB and one on defense) though unless that QB turns out amazing with trade up. But so hard to tell on that. And if it takes both 1sts and more to move up for a QB, then that's alot riding on that QB.

Goff is 8th in QB rating in entire league somehow but he is still is clearly not the long term answer.

 

[mhughes0021]

I have no idea where this team lands in wins this year so its difficult to project who to pick. We continue to play terrible and now were winning games while playing terrible lol. That said i just throw out some names on the defense i would love and where we would need to pick to get them:

Top 4 Pick
Will Anderson DE Alabama Could go anywhere from 1 to 4 depending on QB needs and whos picking in the top 5.

Pick 5 - 10
Jalen Carter DT Georgia
Myles Murphy DE/DT Clemson
Kelee Ringo CB Georgia

Picks 10-15
Trenton Simpson LB Clemson
Jared Verse DE/OLB Florida State
Theres 3 CBs that will battle it out for 2nd CB off the board..its close:
Joey Porter Jr Penn State
Antonio Johnson S/CB Texas A&M
Cam Smith South Carolina

Other Notable Potential defenders that can rise up the draft boards throughout the process:
Isaiah Foskey DE Notre Dame
Jaylon Jones CB Texas A&M
Brian Branch S/CB Alabama
Bryan Bresee is a soph that could declare....hed quickly be a top 15 pick prospect.

If i could pick 2 guys Will Anderson and Trenton Simpson would be a huge step in fixing this defense.

 

[JScottWriter]

Hope they take 2 players and not trade up. I don?t think any of the qbs are worth trading up for but if one they think is a franchise qb and he falls than snag him and a good defender.

 

[johnny2x2x]

Cooper Kupp having surgery for the Rams, going to miss at least a month. The Rams lose a couple more games and they could just kind of shut it down for the season to try to get guys back healthy for 2023. Imagine we get the #1 pick...from the Rams.

 

[tomdalton22]

Cooper Kupp having surgery for the Rams, going to miss at least a month. The Rams lose a couple more games and they could just kind of shut it down for the season to try to get guys back healthy for 2023. Imagine we get the #1 pick...from the Rams.

That would be funny. If that were to happen, the Lions would be smart to trade that #1 overall pick. The kind of haul they could get for the #1 overall pick...multiple first rounders.

 

[mhughes0021]

That would be funny. If that were to happen, the Lions would be smart to trade that #1 overall pick. The kind of haul they could get for the #1 overall pick...multiple first rounders.

even better...imagine having the #1 and #2 overall picks! lmao

Defense could get Will Anderson and Jalen Carter.

 

[grandy]

That would be funny. If that were to happen, the Lions would be smart to trade that #1 overall pick. The kind of haul they could get for the #1 overall pick...multiple first rounders.

That's nice in theory, but generally speaking there is either a generational prospect worth taking #1 (who you're better off drafting anyway) or there isn't and trading up to the 2-5 range will most likely still get you the player you want. Also, most teams aren't going to have the draft capital to move up to #1 unless they trade their entire draft or future picks (and people are already bitching that the rebuild is taking too long).

Usually the higher pick is better, but I don't know if I'd want the #1 pick in most drafts. I'd be more than pleased if the Lions ended up with something similar to the Giants last year with the 5 and 7 picks, high enough to get two very good players with increased flexibility to make draft day deals.

 

[LKP]

even better...imagine having the #1 and #2 overall picks! lmao

Defense could get Will Anderson and Jalen Carter.

That would be awesome. Do you consider them better prospects/BPA over all the QBs. I think I might

 

[mhughes0021]

That would be awesome. Do you consider them better prospects/BPA over all the QBs. I think I might

Will Anderson im starting to get a little Hutchinson vibes to be honest. Hes regarded as the best edge rusher in the class but he can go invisible for long stretches and has those long strides like hutchinson instead of the quicker short bursts. Im not saying thats a bad thing or deal breaker...i just dont think he will have that consistent pressure in the NFL.

Jalen Carter is hands down better than any DT on our roster.

I do think we need a plan at QB. The talent at the top may be too hard to pass up going into a year when youre going to owe Goff $30mil.

I know notoriously you dont take Ohio State QBs....but Stroud is just a different mold than all of those previous guys.

Hendon Hooker is probably 1a on my QB list. Hes not a true dual threat...probably only runs a 4.7. He can be an effective runner and simply has Jared Allen kind of arm strength. He can be Jared Allen imo if developed correctly. Alot of upside....hes an older 5th year senior and a lot of ppl will ask why there wasnt similar production at his previous school which may be reasons he doesnt go in the top 5 for some draft boards,

Bryce Young you simply just cant explain...he just gets it done. Ive watched him while he was at Matre Dei here in Socal. Hes short....hes fast but not that fast. He just makes good decisions. My comparison is probably Seahawks Russel Wilson. Hes probably 3rd on my list.

Will Levis is like the opposite of Bryce Young. Will Levis looks the part. Makes terrible decisions. Has a lot of great games and a lot of terrible games. Teams will fall in love with him becuase theyll want the chance to mold him. For me hes the last option you take if the other 3 are gone.

 

[LKP]

Will Anderson im starting to get a little Hutchinson vibes to be honest. Hes regarded as the best edge rusher in the class but he can go invisible for long stretches and has those long strides like hutchinson instead of the quicker short bursts. Im not saying thats a bad thing or deal breaker...i just dont think he will have that consistent pressure in the NFL.

Jalen Carter is hands down better than any DT on our roster.

I do think we need a plan at QB. The talent at the top may be too hard to pass up going into a year when youre going to owe Goff $30mil.

I know notoriously you dont take Ohio State QBs....but Stroud is just a different mold than all of those previous guys.

Hendon Hooker is probably 1a on my QB list. Hes not a true dual threat...probably only runs a 4.7. He can be an effective runner and simply has Jared Allen kind of arm strength. He can be Jared Allen imo if developed correctly. Alot of upside....hes an older 5th year senior and a lot of ppl will ask why there wasnt similar production at his previous school which may be reasons he doesnt go in the top 5 for some draft boards,

Bryce Young you simply just cant explain...he just gets it done. Ive watched him while he was at Matre Dei here in Socal. Hes short....hes fast but not that fast. He just makes good decisions. My comparison is probably Seahawks Russel Wilson. Hes probably 3rd on my list.

Will Levis is like the opposite of Bryce Young. Will Levis looks the part. Makes terrible decisions. Has a lot of great games and a lot of terrible games. Teams will fall in love with him becuase theyll want the chance to mold him. For me hes the last option you take if the other 3 are gone.

Agree with all of that. I think Hutch is growing and has pass rush moves and power and enough speed to make an impact. He might be a 10 sack guy already this year, we shall see. 10 sack guy and not even playing at his peak yet

 

[boogerlovejoy]

Will Anderson im starting to get a little Hutchinson vibes to be honest. Hes regarded as the best edge rusher in the class but he can go invisible for long stretches and has those long strides like hutchinson instead of the quicker short bursts. Im not saying thats a bad thing or deal breaker...i just dont think he will have that consistent pressure in the NFL.

Jalen Carter is hands down better than any DT on our roster.

I do think we need a plan at QB. The talent at the top may be too hard to pass up going into a year when youre going to owe Goff $30mil.

I know notoriously you dont take Ohio State QBs....but Stroud is just a different mold than all of those previous guys.

Hendon Hooker is probably 1a on my QB list. Hes not a true dual threat...probably only runs a 4.7. He can be an effective runner and simply has Jared Allen kind of arm strength. He can be Jared Allen imo if developed correctly. Alot of upside....hes an older 5th year senior and a lot of ppl will ask why there wasnt similar production at his previous school which may be reasons he doesnt go in the top 5 for some draft boards,

Bryce Young you simply just cant explain...he just gets it done. Ive watched him while he was at Matre Dei here in Socal. Hes short....hes fast but not that fast. He just makes good decisions. My comparison is probably Seahawks Russel Wilson. Hes probably 3rd on my list.

Will Levis is like the opposite of Bryce Young. Will Levis looks the part. Makes terrible decisions. Has a lot of great games and a lot of terrible games. Teams will fall in love with him becuase theyll want the chance to mold him. For me hes the last option you take if the other 3 are gone.

I was not aware of Jared Allen's arm strength. I mean, he used to flex after his stupid "roping the calf" sack dance but they never showed any video of him throwing the ball.

Would be great to get a QB who can rush the passer.

 

[LKP]

I was not aware of Jared Allen's arm strength. I mean, he used to flex after his stupid "roping the calf" sack dance but they never showed any video of him throwing the ball.

Would be great to get a QB who can rush the passer.

Jared Allen would league the lead in picks

Wait so does Josh Allen with 10 picks. The narrative has been set on him that he is good forever though

 

[boogerlovejoy]

Jared Allen would league the lead in picks

Wait so does Josh Allen with 10 picks. The narrative has been set on him that he is good forever though

He get's that narrative because he wins. However, just like with any QB.....if his career progresses and he never gets to a Super Bowl.....that narrative will change.

 

[mhughes0021]

I was not aware of Jared Allen's arm strength. I mean, he used to flex after his stupid "roping the calf" sack dance but they never showed any video of him throwing the ball.

Would be great to get a QB who can rush the passer.

lol always thought jared allen belonged in the WWE after his career.