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All MMs momentum hit a red light this year

yea in a year or 2 when we're contenders, this draft will probably be part of that reason. if hogue, culbreath develop to even be decent backups this will end up being an above average draft to say the least. titus, mikel, and nick could be blue chip players
 
Fairley's injury is a big concern going forward. Titus has shown some flashes, too soon to tell. I'll be the first to admit the lack of Oline has hurt but in retrospect outside of Wisnewski and to a lesser degree Solder none of the linemen have contributed much.
 
I think Fairley is a fine addition to the Lions D and I am looking forward to him becoming better and better each season, barring the injury bug, which is often just the result of bad luck.

Leshoure fucking up his achilles is the most worrisome, since he was faaaar more costly than at first glance, because of giving up a couple and trading a couple of lower-round picks for even lower same rounds by switching them with the Seahawks. Losing him may if not WILL have repercussions in next year's draft, b/c the Lions' brass might STILL not know by then if Mikel will be even close to ready for camp or practices by late summer '12.

So what do they do? Gamble that Mikel will be fine/okay, and completely ignore acquiring another high-round RB OR figure that he more than likely won't be...maybe EVER, and with Best just ONE MORE concussion away from his career ending prematurely, they very wisely grab yet another RB in the first or second round...sigh...
 
cheeno said:
Fairley's injury is a big concern going forward. Titus has shown some flashes, too soon to tell. I'll be the first to admit the lack of Oline has hurt but in retrospect outside of Wisnewski and to a lesser degree Solder none of the linemen have contributed much.

Ijalana has had a great year...
 
[color=#551A8B said:
Danny Diggler[/color]]
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A round of applause for the OP.. This is the worst thread ever created. Helifino's threads are better than this.

and you have a chinaman that does nothing but touches his dick and 2 fags playing the guitar in your post....we get it man....we get it.
 
This is a terrible thread.

Fairley- Injured, played great the last game before reinjuring his foot.

Young-Also injured, and isnt even our 2nd wr, and for that, hes played well this year. Just an eye test, but I recall him making more big cathes this year than bryant johnson ever has.

Leshoure- IR

You cant predict injuries. So what are you talking about?
 
jrange378 said:
This is a terrible thread.

Fairley- Injured, played great the last game before reinjuring his foot.

Young-Also injured, and isnt even our 2nd wr, and for that, hes played well this year. Just an eye test, but I recall him making more big cathes this year than bryant johnson ever has.

Leshoure- IR

You cant predict injuries. So what are you talking about?

played great how? he had 2 tackles lol. oh you mean he was playing great cause chris frikken collingsworth said so? Great insight.

Young - has 2 TDs....one was the most wide open ive ever seen a WR. I recall him making more bonehead plays than good plays.

What am i talking about? have you not read anything i posted? Im talking about wasting picks on rbs and wrs when we have other needs. Im talking about neglecting the oline year after year. Im talking about drafting a concussed shitty version of reggie bush in the first round....and trading up to get him. You guys keep focusing on the draft aspect lol....which you can twist anyway you want...but ill still be more right than you. No matter what the reason...there has been no production out of the draft. You guys can keep talking about future tense...but youll just be speculating. My statements are factual lol....yours arent.
 
mhughes0021 said:
jrange378 said:
This is a terrible thread.

Fairley- Injured, played great the last game before reinjuring his foot.

Young-Also injured, and isnt even our 2nd wr, and for that, hes played well this year. Just an eye test, but I recall him making more big cathes this year than bryant johnson ever has.

Leshoure- IR

You cant predict injuries. So what are you talking about?

played great how? he had 2 tackles lol. oh you mean he was playing great cause chris frikken collingsworth said so? Great insight.

Young - has 2 TDs....one was the most wide open ive ever seen a WR. I recall him making more bonehead plays than good plays.

What am i talking about? have you not read anything i posted? Im talking about wasting picks on rbs and wrs when we have other needs. Im talking about neglecting the oline year after year. Im talking about drafting a concussed shitty version of reggie bush in the first round....and trading up to get him. You guys keep focusing on the draft aspect lol....which you can twist anyway you want...but ill still be more right than you. No matter what the reason...there has been no production out of the draft. You guys can keep talking about future tense...but youll just be speculating. My statements are factual lol....yours arent.

Your "facts" are misleading though, as you try to refute my arguement about titus young by saying he has 2 TD's. But look at who he replaced (Bryant johnson) and compare their stats, Young has double in a lot of keys categories -such as TD, receptions, and first downs, and he doesnt have the dropsies like Johnson had. And this is with 2 games less played than johnson last year. Mind you, a 1st down is a big catch, and he has 22. Your dead wrong on this one. Mayhew improved the team with this pick.
And Fairley had 3 tackles, 1 assisted, and a sack, as well as stuff according to espn. I looked to see this info but this pretty much sums up my eye test too as this is better than heralded Nosetackle Haloti Ngatas entire game against the cleveland browns in which he racked up a impressive 2 tackles, 1 solo. Fairley played half that game, as im sure you know, without Suh.

So again, how did Mayhew not improve the team with those 2 picks? Leshourse isn't a talking point since he out.

Please tell me.
 
jrange378 said:
mhughes0021 said:
played great how? he had 2 tackles lol. oh you mean he was playing great cause chris frikken collingsworth said so? Great insight.

Young - has 2 TDs....one was the most wide open ive ever seen a WR. I recall him making more bonehead plays than good plays.

What am i talking about? have you not read anything i posted? Im talking about wasting picks on rbs and wrs when we have other needs. Im talking about neglecting the oline year after year. Im talking about drafting a concussed shitty version of reggie bush in the first round....and trading up to get him. You guys keep focusing on the draft aspect lol....which you can twist anyway you want...but ill still be more right than you. No matter what the reason...there has been no production out of the draft. You guys can keep talking about future tense...but youll just be speculating. My statements are factual lol....yours arent.

Your "facts" are misleading though, as you try to refute my arguement about titus young by saying he has 2 TD's. But look at who he replaced (Bryant johnson) and compare their stats, Young has double in a lot of keys categories -such as TD, receptions, and first downs, and he doesnt have the dropsies like Johnson had. And this is with 2 games less played than johnson last year. Mind you, a 1st down is a big catch, and he has 22. Your dead wrong on this one. Mayhew improved the team with this pick.
And Fairley had 3 tackles, 1 assisted, and a sack, as well as stuff according to espn. I looked to see this info but this pretty much sums up my eye test too as this is better than heralded Nosetackle Haloti Ngatas entire game against the cleveland browns in which he racked up a impressive 2 tackles, 1 solo. Fairley played half that game, as im sure you know, without Suh.

So again, how did Mayhew not improve the team with those 2 picks? Leshourse isn't a talking point since he out.

Please tell me.

My biggest beef with the draft is we were fine with it when we thought he was going to address our needs in FA. Other than LB he did no such thing. And people can say im being anti homer now n its all good....but i said the same things during the draft. I wasnt happy with the jahvid pick 2 drafts ago and i feel i was right then. I wasnt happy with this past draft...You go too many drafts without production from the guys in the first 3 rounds and all of a sudden your franchise will take a turn for the worse. Especially when youre not making the corrections in FA. You guys are harping a bit more than i intended in regards to the draft piece....i understand all those guys this year are rookies and their injuries are unfortunate....but i was talking more about upgrading our team as a whole. Draft is obviously part of that.

One thing i will say about the Bryant Johnson argument. Fact is every 2nd and 3rd WRs have underperformed that we have brought in. For me its a result of stafford who has a real hard time extending plays (see big ben or Rodgers) and doesnt really do a good job going thru his progressions. He looks at either calvin if he like his matchup or pettigrew over the middle....if he doesnt like either hes automatically checking down to a RB.
 
mhughes0021 said:
jrange378 said:
Your "facts" are misleading though, as you try to refute my arguement about titus young by saying he has 2 TD's. But look at who he replaced (Bryant johnson) and compare their stats, Young has double in a lot of keys categories -such as TD, receptions, and first downs, and he doesnt have the dropsies like Johnson had. And this is with 2 games less played than johnson last year. Mind you, a 1st down is a big catch, and he has 22. Your dead wrong on this one. Mayhew improved the team with this pick.
And Fairley had 3 tackles, 1 assisted, and a sack, as well as stuff according to espn. I looked to see this info but this pretty much sums up my eye test too as this is better than heralded Nosetackle Haloti Ngatas entire game against the cleveland browns in which he racked up a impressive 2 tackles, 1 solo. Fairley played half that game, as im sure you know, without Suh.

So again, how did Mayhew not improve the team with those 2 picks? Leshourse isn't a talking point since he out.

Please tell me.

My biggest beef with the draft is we were fine with it when we thought he was going to address our needs in FA. Other than LB he did no such thing. And people can say im being anti homer now n its all good....but i said the same things during the draft. I wasnt happy with the jahvid pick 2 drafts ago and i feel i was right then. I wasnt happy with this past draft...You go too many drafts without production from the guys in the first 3 rounds and all of a sudden your franchise will take a turn for the worse. Especially when youre not making the corrections in FA. You guys are harping a bit more than i intended in regards to the draft piece....i understand all those guys this year are rookies and their injuries are unfortunate....but i was talking more about upgrading our team as a whole. Draft is obviously part of that.

One thing i will say about the Bryant Johnson argument. Fact is every 2nd and 3rd WRs have underperformed that we have brought in. For me its a result of stafford who has a real hard time extending plays (see big ben or Rodgers) and doesnt really do a good job going thru his progressions. He looks at either calvin if he like his matchup or pettigrew over the middle....if he doesnt like either hes automatically checking down to a RB.

Well it was pretty much a general consensus that LB was our biggest need and it was, and its now a strength of our team I think. And he did address our CB issue, with Eric Wright, who I understand to be a hit or miss guy, but I have no opinion on him as I admittedly haven't seen much.
The only issue I can see being argued is the O-line, but I think this is almost a moot point, as in my opinion they have done a good job. Kevin smith had some nice running lanes before he got injured, and I think best just is a 15 carries for 20 yards then one big 50 yard TD kind of back. He doesn't hit the hole at all and dances too much. Ive sort of given up on him and all the injuries. I think K smooth has shown that the holes are there you just have to hit them. Im no O-line expert though. I just see what I see.
 
mhughes0021 said:
[color=#551A8B said:
Danny Diggler[/color]]
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A round of applause for the OP.. This is the worst thread ever created. Helifino's threads are better than this.

and you have a chinaman that does nothing but touches his dick and 2 fags playing the guitar in your post....we get it man....we get it.

lol.. What's on your mind? Sounds to me like that closet is cramping your style. You can come out, the board doesn't care. Only jesus and your parents do..
 
[color=#551A8B said:
Danny Diggler[/color]]
mhughes0021 said:
and you have a chinaman that does nothing but touches his dick and 2 fags playing the guitar in your post....we get it man....we get it.

lol.. What's on your mind? Sounds to me like that closet is cramping your style. You can come out, the board doesn't care. Only jesus and your parents do..

I like to picture Jesus as a figure skater. He wears like a white outfit, and He does interpretive ice dances of my life's journey.
 
theo said:
Dude, you're an idiot.
if cutler stays healthy this year we dont make the playoffs after a 5-0 start. weve lost 5 of 7. Our oline consists of backus and raoila...still, spievey and delmas miss numerous open field tackles every game, we just watched brees and Rodgers torch us in back to back weeks...and im an idiot cause im the only one stating our draft last year hasnt produced jack? lol, another useless name caller who doesnt provide anything to the board. Other than Suh id say last years draft is just as horrible (although i could start an entire other thread about all the negative attention suh has brought to the team).

Best - poor mans reggie bush and cant stay healthy. basically worthless.

Spievey - giving CC Brown a run for his money as worst safety ever in a lions uniform. Every game he fucks up something.

Fox - Who?


like i said....u keep stringing together draft classes that dont produce or even give you quality depth or ST and youre team is going to suffer.
 
You worry too much.

We weren't just 0-16 we had a JV team up and down the lineup. Honestly, I though it'd take much longer to be 7-5. We'd probably all be happy at 7-5 but because the route we got there, 5-0 to 7-5. It takes time. We worked on DL, we got the LB core better, last two years of Houston, Wright and Delmas is a better group than we had. We got a franchise QB, solid WR and TE groups. Next year OL. Maybe you wanted OL sooner but it takes time to go from complete and utter crap to playoffs.

You worry too much.
 
mhughes0021 said:
[color=#551A8B said:
Danny Diggler[/color]]
chang-slowclap110.gif


A round of applause for the OP.. This is the worst thread ever created. Helifino's threads are better than this.

and you have a chinaman that does nothing but touches his dick and 2 fags playing the guitar in your post....we get it man....we get it.


wow, Fag mhughes?, really,?
 
I'll say the OP is retarded....nothing wrong with the picks from a talent standpoint, injuries happen
 
mhughes0021 said:
cheeno said:
Fairley's injury is a big concern going forward. Titus has shown some flashes, too soon to tell. I'll be the first to admit the lack of Oline has hurt but in retrospect outside of Wisnewski and to a lesser degree Solder none of the linemen have contributed much.

Ijalana has had a great year...

http://www.nfl.com/player/benijalana/2495174/profile

Unless that was sarcasm which wouldn't make much sense, Ijalana for injured before he even made a start for the Colts.

Also if you are trying to judge a draft after not even 1 full season you are very misguided. Titus has played really well as our slot guy this year and has come up with many clutch catches for us. Throw in the fact that h was really hindered throughout all of training camp with a hamstring and his production has been pretty good for a rookie 2nd rounder.

Fairly has played very well in his limited snaps and if not for that stress fracture that keeps giving him trouble, he would have had a very good rookie season. Here's a ittle blurb from a profootballfocus article

They reinforced that intent by drafting Nick Fairley (+5.0) in 2011 and whilst Fairley
 
Everyone knows you judge a draft class based on the first 14 games of their 1st season. Anyone who says otherwise is a fool!
 
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