Congratulations B1G! F@CK ohio

[thewolverines24]

I don't want anything handed to Michigan. I want them to earn being the best. My point of view is that I will never, ever root for OSU in any way, shape, or form. **** them. I do not have an ounce of respect for that program.

That being said, OSU having a strong season sets up for a great rivalry game at the end of the season as long as Michigan is great/good again.

 

[allshouldbleedblue]

nobody is truthfully saying they dont want michigan to beat the best or be the best and earn it. what you are failing to grasp is the fact being ok with osu winning is not ok. it does not help michigan whether you want to admit it or not. osu winning makes them better and benefits them. the very small benefit to michigan does not outweigh that. by us not wanting osu to win the national championship we are actually cheering for michigan to get better. better coaches and better recruits consistently win. when osu wins they get better recruits. their coaching is just as good as michigans if not better at the moment, this may change. so in turn osu losing helps michigan which is exactly what we all want. there is no way that you can tell me that you would not rather michigan and osu switch places in the coming years.

 

[zyxt9]

It's the Notre Dame syndrome.
When you are accustom to being great, and you lose it, and you can't get it back... You grasp at straws.

now that Harbaugh is the coach, we should be awakened to a new reality, stand up and be accountable. no more grasping, this is about pure determination and strength of character, putting a higher demand upon one's self.

I get that we have been beaten down by the RR and Hoke years, but we were once an extremely proud, some would say arrogant or ****y, group. we would look at OSU being undefeated and know that it was only going to last until UM beat them.

Harbaugh is now the UM coach. gone are the days of accepting 6 wins and being happy for them. he knows this too. at UM the expectations and demands are in the 10+ win range, beating OSU, and in the new era the expectations should now include winning the B1G CCG and getting a shot at the NC. Harbaugh can and will make that happen. so if OSU is at the top this year, fine...we now get to beat them and reclaim the conviction that UM is The Best!

 

[RABID]

but which earns respect? which brings UM closer to being legitimately called The Best?

When we are challenging for title games i will worry about respect.

Right now, I just want to win the ****ing games, and there is no game I want to win more than THE game. Whether ohio is good or sucks doesn't matter one bit to me. Just beat the baJesus out of them.

But that is the beat-down, disgruntled, disappointed Rabid talking, too.
I am not, nor have I ever been happy with 6 wins. I am disappointed with 9 wins.
Ask me again in two years, when we have returned to National prominence.

 

[zyxt9]

nobody is truthfully saying they dont want michigan to beat the best or be the best and earn it. what you are failing to grasp is the fact being ok with osu winning is not ok. it does not help michigan whether you want to admit it or not. osu winning makes them better and benefits them. the very small benefit to michigan does not outweigh that. by us not wanting osu to win the national championship we are actually cheering for michigan to get better. better coaches and better recruits consistently win. when osu wins they get better recruits. their coaching is just as good as michigans if not better at the moment, this may change. so in turn osu losing helps michigan which is exactly what we all want. there is no way that you can tell me that you would not rather michigan and osu switch places in the coming years.

once again, OSU will NOT be able to recruit the #1 and #2 players at every position. this is a falicy that they will be able to outrecruit UM. there are plenty of very talented players who will be going to any number of schools, not just OSU. Harbaugh has potential to land several big fish even at this point in the 2015 class. stop making excuses. get good to great players, coach them up, develop a winning game plan, and BEAT OSU!!!

 

[allshouldbleedblue]

you are continually proving my point about recruiting. you keep saying they cant get #1 and #2 lol. well if they get #1 each time, unrealistic, then what you are saying is you are ok with leftovers. our goal should always be to get the best talent available for the positions we need and who fit the system. if #1 is who we want and they choose osu it proves everyones point. whether you like to admit it or not, while michigan always gets good recruits, osu continually gets better recruits. if their coaching staff does what they have been able to do so far, than osu getting better recruits is not a recipe for success for michigan.

 

[allshouldbleedblue]

now that Harbaugh is the coach, we should be awakened to a new reality, stand up and be accountable. no more grasping, this is about pure determination and strength of character, putting a higher demand upon one's self.

I get that we have been beaten down by the RR and Hoke years, but we were once an extremely proud, some would say arrogant or ****y, group. we would look at OSU being undefeated and know that it was only going to last until UM beat them.

Harbaugh is now the UM coach. gone are the days of accepting 6 wins and being happy for them. he knows this too. at UM the expectations and demands are in the 10+ win range, beating OSU, and in the new era the expectations should now include winning the B1G CCG and getting a shot at the NC. Harbaugh can and will make that happen. so if OSU is at the top this year, fine...we now get to beat them and reclaim the conviction that UM is The Best!

when has anyone on this board ever been ok with 6 wins and not expected 10+? just because people dont think we can get 10+ wins doesnt mean that isnt what we expect.

 

[RABID]

Like i said in the OP- I can't get behind ohio winning. I hate them.

But ohio winning the NC is good for the B1G.
I still hate the fact the ohio won it.

What it comes down to is more respect for the B1G is good for all of the major teams in the conference. We be one of them.
ohio as NC brings respect to the B1G therefore Michigan earns respect from ohio.

You have to drive around the loop for a while, but you eventually come to that point. You can argue logic forever. Socrates was executed for it eventually.

 

[zyxt9]

and another thing, OSU losing in the NC game would have had ZERO impact on the recruiting front for them. they had their recruits already lined up. UM did not have theirs. Now UM can add as an incentive the potential to play against top talent that has won an NC.

OSU losing the NC would have helped UM less than OSU winning it. obviously there is a benefit to OSU and every B1G team as well, it comes down to who will maximize the opportunity? I have faith in Harbaugh. He will get UM the best benefits over any B1G coach out of this. He sparked the entire MSM spotlight coming to the B1G when he got hired. That spotlight was intensified by the B1G's bowl performances. He is going to make UM a Victor once again, and it is coming sooner because of the intensity of that spotlight. B1G failing to have a strong bowl showing, including the NC, THAT would have diminished the spotlight. Harbaugh is in the most ideal position possible now.

 

[Gulo Blue]

what is with you guys? for all the talk about UM is the best, this sure isn't the attitude of being "best".

to be "the best" you have to beat "the best". either you can and do that, or you don't and are not.

UM is supposed to be about being the Leaders and Best. that is NOT achieved by beating up poor teams. so what if OSU is extremely good right now? that just means UM must work that much harder, have that much more passion, desire, drive, execution, commitment, and more. why would you want OSU to not be on top right now? that pushes UM to be better! game recognizes game...and UM has not had game, but instead of wanting UM to be better, all I hear is about how OSU is too good and damn it I wish they were not.

OSU being at the top right now means UM has to go out and earn the right to call themselves the Best. some of you talk like you want it to just be handed to UM, like the last place kid being handed a participation medal. that is BS talk and a poor mentality to bring to this battle. UM is in transition right now, OSU has set the bar for where UM needs to push themselves to achieve. if UM really is the Best, and you really want UM to be the Best, then you too should be ok with OSU having won the NC...so when UM beats OSU next year, it puts UM at the top of the mountain. I don't want a UM victory over OSU to initiate conversation about whether or not UM should be ranked, I want it to initiate conversation that UM deserves to be ranked #1. if that requires them to beat the best, so be it. the "best" do get beat, it is up to the underdog to figure out how. just go win the ****ing Rivalry now and earn that claim of "The Best". it doesn't do the team any good to have it just handed to them, EARN IT!

Easy there. You're reading too much into the wrong phrases. Just like I could mine bits and pieces of what you've said to make it sound like you're a closet OSU fan.

 

[zyxt9]

right now espn has a poll asking who is the best coach in college football: Meyer, Saban, or someone else.

Now granted I'm biased, but I do believe Harbaugh can and will outcoach both those guys.

 

[zyxt9]

Easy there. You're reading too much into the wrong phrases. Just like I could mine bits and pieces of what you've said to make it sound like you're a closet OSU fan.

define. don't gloss over which phrases I'm wrong about, define them.

Harbaugh sure as hell isn't crying about what happened in 2014. He is focused on next season and he will use 2014-15's results as a huge motivational tool, both in recruiting and in getting the most out of his team. he himself would say that if you want to be the best it means you have to want to play the best and beat the best. he won't make excuses like "OSU won the NC so now they get the best recruits". he will recognize how to maximize UM's potential as a result.

 

[thewolverines24]

right now espn has a poll asking who is the best coach in college football: Meyer, Saban, or someone else.

Now granted I'm biased, but I do believe Harbaugh can and will outcoach both those guys.

I think Harbaugh is better than Saban immediately. What Harbaugh did at Stanford is more impressive to me than what Saban has done at LSU and Alabama. Saban has every advantage on earth, but I still think Saban is a great football coach.

Harbaugh was strapped with every disadvantage at Stanford. He inherited one of the worst teams in college football, they have the toughest admission standards, they have no fan support (stadium is typically half empty), they don't over-sign kids, and their facilities aren't anything beyond mediocre. Harbaugh took that situation and built it into a team that finished top 4 in the country in his final year and he set the program up for continued success when he left.

 

[tinselwolverine]

right now espn has a poll asking who is the best coach in college football: Meyer, Saban, or someone else.

Now granted I'm biased, but I do believe Harbaugh can and will outcoach both those guys.

So go vote "somebody else."

 

[Gulo Blue]

define. don't gloss over which phrases I'm wrong about, define them.

Whichever phrases you're reading that make you think that people that aren't all "rah, rah, OSU" can't see the silver lining.

 

[zyxt9]

So go vote "somebody else."

I did before I posted about it.

 

[allshouldbleedblue]

Whichever phrases you're reading that make you think that people that aren't all "rah, rah, OSU" can't see the silver lining.

exactly

 

[TheVictors]

Easy there. You're reading too much into the wrong phrases. Just like I could mine bits and pieces of what you've said to make it sound like you're a closet OSU fan.

Even putting The Best in quotes like "The Best" diminishes the point.

to phillip's constant point. Win and you are the best. not, "The Best"

 

[tinselwolverine]

OSU being at the top right now means UM has to go out and earn the right to call themselves the Best. some of you talk like you want it to just be handed to UM, like the last place kid being handed a participation medal. that is BS talk and a poor mentality to bring to this battle.

Who talks like this? I don't see anybody posting anything like this.

And nobody here brings shit to the battle. We're all just observers regardless of what somebody's mentality is or isn't.

Some people think the Buckeyes winning is bad for M; some people think the Buckeyes winning is good for the B1G and therefore good for M.

But whatever anyone's opinion on this is doesn't change shit.

Personally, since a B1G couldn't win the NC without the team being Ohio State, I didn't even watch the damn Championship game. I watched re-runs of The Big Bang Theory.

I did watch parts of a few bowls, but for me the season ostensibly ended when M was eliminated from the post season.

 

[bphillips4gg]

No matter how much you try to twist the facts to fit into your argument, it's not going to work. I don't have any clue why you tried to take "Ohio state can use this to their advantage in recruiting" and turn it into us making excuses for Jim.