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Coronainsanity

Sunscreens, great example. Let's expand upon that, shall we? Since you brought it up...

https://www.health.harvard.edu/stay...cts-found-to-contain-cancer-causing-substance

Sunscreens have been found to need reapplication, just like boosters of the vaccine. And some ingredients in sunscreens have caused cancers. For some others, sun's reens have caused allergic reactions.

And these small ingredients on their own initial singular use are probably somewhat ok, but over time and reapication, the body is not able to process the ingredients efficiently, causing a potential buildup that can lead to comications for some people.

Yet the sunscreens in the link were previously ruled ok by the government. It was only after long term use that problems were detected.

Now, if one chooses not to use sunscreen, they do have potential to experience complications from sun exposure. They should be smart about how long they are exposed, maybe need to wear additional clothing, or maybe use an organic alternative with more natural, less artificial ingredients. Or maybe use a different sunscreen that does not have the ingredient which is problematic for that individual.

Sure, the government can recommend a d encourage the use of sunscreen. And most people will likely prefer using it as opposed to examining each item, or rely on various 3rd party resources to suggest which ones have caused less or more problems, whether small or large. (EWG is an example of a pretty good site for analyzing such things, but as always, it might not be sufficient for every individual).

And no one has done research thorough enough as to which sunscreens are ok to use with another sunscreen. The ingredients from each that remain in the body, potentially combining together to create a new compound that could be problematic. And that compound might not be realized as a problem until it eventually degrades at some future point, with that degradation process creating something highly toxic.

There are risks with everything, the vaccine is no different. That is why each individual should be allowed to decide if they are willing to accept the risk. That is freedom of choice. Maybe someone prefers minimizing sun exposure and letting their natural response work as it always has. Maybe if they get too exposed they will apply other natural options, such as aloe or cocoa butter, as opposed to seeking a doctor and their artificially created remedies.

The Right to Choose. That is what America is supposed to provide. Not mandates. Educate, inform, hell they can even put out all the advertisements and fear mongering they desire.

Perhaps a better equivalence might be cigarette smoking, since governments have banned that in certain public areas due to the negative effects it can have on others. However, this is not 100% equivalent because non-smokers are not able to produce 2nd hand smoke to someone the way a vaccinated person can still carry and spread Covid.

That is the piece that is the biggest issue still, and why I keep referring back to the hope that the Army/WR vax will be different. No additional shots (buildup of a small toxin that becomes more problematic over time with more injections), and hopefully prevents vaccinated from spreading it. IMO, that Army/WR vax could be a legit option, and I hope it will be. It still might not be for everyone though, just like a singular sunscreen is the right product for every individual.
uhh...sure, I guess. But the point stands. It would be misleading to say sunscreen has been proven to not prevent sunburns.
 
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uhh...sure, I guess. But the point stands. It would be misleading to say sunscreen has been proven to not prevent sunburns.

Uh, sure... just as it would be misleading to say sunscreen is perfectly safe with no severe side effects, including premature death.
 
Uh, sure... just as it would be misleading to say sunscreen is perfectly safe with no severe side effects, including premature death.

I know, right?

That?s what makes the idea of gun control laws so stupid.

Why make laws restricting guns when a person can kill another person just as easily with sunscreen?
 
Uh, sure... just as it would be misleading to say sunscreen is perfectly safe with no severe side effects, including premature death.
Now this is a strawman. Because that's not what's being said about the vaccine.
 
I know, right?

That?s what makes the idea of gun control laws so stupid.

Why make laws restricting guns when a person can kill another person just as easily with sunscreen?

True that! The Miami Mafia will pour a gallon of that shit down the throat of anyone who snitches. "If you try to get clean, you get the sunscreen!"
 
Now this is a strawman. Because that's not what's being said about the vaccine.

What? That is precisely what the issue is for the medically exempt along with the fact we do not know the long term effects of even one dose, let alone 3, 4, 5 or more building up potential toxicity, or doing the mixture and gambling that the mixing of different brands will not one day prove to be a big OOPS!
 
What? That is precisely what the issue is for the medically exempt along with the fact we do not know the long term effects of even one dose, let alone 3, 4, 5 or more building up potential toxicity, or doing the mixture and gambling that the mixing of different brands will not one day prove to be a big OOPS!

You are all over the map. I can't follow how you got here from where we just were.
 
https://www.businessinsider.com/how-long-does-booster-protection-omicron-covid-last-study-2021-12

How the fuck can this be legit? Omicron has not even been a thing for 10 weeks, but this study says the booster shot will only be effective against it for 10 weeks???

So now, instead of every 6 months for boosters, they recommend basically getting a booster every 2 months.

And no one thinks all that stuff being repeatedly injected is an issue.

Soon we will have to take our daily vax pill.
 
https://www.businessinsider.com/how-long-does-booster-protection-omicron-covid-last-study-2021-12

How the fuck can this be legit? Omicron has not even been a thing for 10 weeks, but this study says the booster shot will only be effective against it for 10 weeks???

So now, instead of every 6 months for boosters, they recommend basically getting a booster every 2 months.

And no one thinks all that stuff being repeatedly injected is an issue.

Soon we will have to take our daily vax pill.

Absolute insanity. The longer this insanity ratchets up the more convincing it becomes that it?s all designed to kill off a large portion of the population. It?s a mass extermination agenda.
 
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Ya know, those doomsday preppers who bought full hazmat suits used to be extreme Conservatives who detached from reality.

Today, people like Champ would buy one from the preppers if given the chance.
 
Reports like this make me think that, if anything, COVID deaths in the US are way WAY underreported:
In Cape Girardeau County, the coroner hasn?t pronounced a single person dead of COVID-19 in 2021.

Wavis Jordan, a Republican who was elected last year to serve as coroner of the 80,000-person county, says his office ?doesn?t do COVID deaths.? He does not investigate deaths himself, and requires families to provide proof of a positive COVID-19 test before including it on a death certificate.​

More:
An investigation by Documenting COVID-19, the USA TODAY Network and experts reveals why so many deaths have gone uncounted: After overwhelming the nation?s health care system, the coronavirus evaded its antiquated, decentralized system of investigating and recording deaths.

Short-staffed, undertrained and overworked coroners and medical examiners took families at their word when they called to report the death of a relative at home. Coroners and medical examiners didn?t review medical histories or order tests to look for COVID-19.

They, and even some physicians, attributed deaths to inaccurate and nonspecific causes that are meaningless to pathologists. In some cases, stringent rules for attributing a death to COVID-19 created obstacles for relatives of the deceased and contradicted CDC guidance.

The article notes at the same time places recording zero covid deaths for long periods of time, deaths due to pulmonary issues or cardiac arrest increased by a lot, year-over-year, in some cases doubling. So the excess deaths are there... it's just a matter of whether you want to ignore the most obvious explanation of why (because youre a dumbass)
 
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Reports like this make me think that, if anything, COVID deaths in the US are way WAY underreported:
In Cape Girardeau County, the coroner hasn?t pronounced a single person dead of COVID-19 in 2021.

Wavis Jordan, a Republican who was elected last year to serve as coroner of the 80,000-person county, says his office ?doesn?t do COVID deaths.? He does not investigate deaths himself, and requires families to provide proof of a positive COVID-19 test before including it on a death certificate.​

More:
An investigation by Documenting COVID-19, the USA TODAY Network and experts reveals why so many deaths have gone uncounted: After overwhelming the nation?s health care system, the coronavirus evaded its antiquated, decentralized system of investigating and recording deaths.

Short-staffed, undertrained and overworked coroners and medical examiners took families at their word when they called to report the death of a relative at home. Coroners and medical examiners didn?t review medical histories or order tests to look for COVID-19.

They, and even some physicians, attributed deaths to inaccurate and nonspecific causes that are meaningless to pathologists. In some cases, stringent rules for attributing a death to COVID-19 created obstacles for relatives of the deceased and contradicted CDC guidance.

The article notes at the same time places recording zero covid deaths for long periods of time, deaths due to pulmonary issues or cardiac arrest increased by a lot, year-over-year, in some cases doubling. So the excess deaths are there... it's just a matter of whether you want to ignore the most obvious explanation of why (because youre a dumbass)

You should look over the report I posted by the AAMC in #4762. I would say that organization should be viewed as pretty objective. The article reports on medical professionals who believe the Covid death count with the CDC is overcounted, and provides the rationale of the people who believe that; then it reports on medical professionals who believe the Covid death count is undercounted, and provides their rationale for coming to that conclusion.

Maybe in some instances deaths were undercounted and in some instances deaths were over counted. Either way, I think it makes sense for a critically thinking person to come away confirming their notion that the CDC death count should not be viewed as etched in stone.

I will say that AAMC does provide data as to why in some instances the count may be under counted, just the way it provides data as to why in some instances the death count may be under counted.

Your example provides zero data. Well, there is one piece of data that reports the court as zero. There is no other data provided at all.

You do make up for the provision of zero data with the persuasive tool of calling those who may not agree with you dumbasses. Good strategy.
 
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In an appearance Sunday Anthony Fauci admitted that vaccine mandates are merely a ?mechanism? to coerce more Americans to take shots.

Appearing on ABC Sunday, Fauci noted ?A vaccine requirement for a person getting on the plane is just another level of getting people to have a mechanism that would spur them to get vaccinated.?

The comments came as part of a discussion on applying vaccine mandates to air travel.

Far from following any ?science?, Fauci admitted that ?anything that could get people more vaccinated would be welcome.?
https://www.infowars.com/posts/vide...st-a-mechanism-to-get-more-people-vaccinated/
 
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On Monday?s broadcast of the Fox News Channel?s ?Faulkner Focus,? Fox News Medical Contributor and Johns Hopkins School of Medicine Professor Dr. Marty Makary argued that the biggest failure in the coronavirus pandemic response is the failure to tailor policies based on individual risk, and that ?those who have chosen not to get vaccinated and have not had COVID, they do so at their own individual risk. We?ve never seen this level of martial law and paternalism to prevent mild infection in 300 million Americans.?

https://www.breitbart.com/clips/202...aw-and-paternalism-to-prevent-mild-infection/
 
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