Coronainsanity

[tinselwolverine]

I don't like the idea of getting rid of it. Slash the amount, maybe.

I think the Republicans floated the idea of $200. I think $5/hr is a bit egregious even for the staunchest of welfare haters. Maybe $350-400 will be the sweet spot.

To be honest, I hate that this is what gets the most attention. The PPP loans seemed to be far less effective and cost much more money than the 'Trump bucks' checks.

What I heard was Repubs wanted 70% of what peops were getting before.

 

[mhughes0021]

Does anyone know if i need to report my stimulus money as reported income next year and get taxed on it. I wasnt too worried about the initial $3000 family. But if its going to be $6000 after this round thats probably like atleast $1800 in taxes that isnt being taken out.

 

[sggatecl]

Hmmmm...I thought she would have a little better showing, that?s all.

She could have another day though.

I try to make funny. I fail.

 

[sggatecl]

What I heard was Repubs wanted 70% of what peops were getting before.

That's reasonable I think. And probably on par with what most of America makes, even if it isn't much.

 

[tomdalton22]

I don't like the idea of getting rid of it. Slash the amount, maybe.

I think the Republicans floated the idea of $200. I think $5/hr is a bit egregious even for the staunchest of welfare haters. Maybe $350-400 will be the sweet spot.

To be honest, I hate that this is what gets the most attention. The PPP loans seemed to be far less effective and cost much more money than the 'Trump bucks' checks.

I agree on the PPP...it was a good idea but they had no oversight.

The "extra" $600 per week was WAY too much to begin with. I live in Ohio. For example, if a person made $15 per hour and worked full time got laid off or lost their job, they make $299 per week in unemployment from the state. With the fed kicker, they make $899 per week. The max in OH is based off of $1294 per week. They would get $480 per week and with the $600 = $1080. A person with a 6 figure income would be used to $2k a week but if unemployed would get $1080. A person that made $300 per week would get $750 per week with the fed kicker.

They should have capped it so it would be no more than what a person made before they went unemployed.

The PPP should have been for businesses that actually needed it, not just a windfall because you apply. The oversight would have been difficult but they could base it on future tax returns. I'm sure the IRS could figure it out somewhat more effective than just passing out free money.

The Trump buck checks are another story. I didn't get anything but my wife did. I think she got about $450 or so. So far we weren't impacted since we are both able to work. We decided to spend it on extra tips on carry out orders at our local restaurants during the lockdown. We also tipped out our hair people when they went back to work as if we never missed an appt.

 

[tinselwolverine]

I try to make funny. I fail.

No you were absolutely right, it was the greatest disappointment for me of the election cycle.

But I didn?t have high expectations for much of anything good going in already.

 

[sggatecl]

No you were absolutely right, it was the greatest disappointment for me of the election cycle.

But I didn?t have high expectations for much of anything good going in already.

Maybe in the 2024 cycle we can get her to notice you.

 

[Michchamp]

Does $600 make people avoid finding work? evidence says no (from those noted anti-business liberals at Bloomberg)

 

[tinselwolverine]

Maybe in the 2024 cycle we can get her to notice you.

That would be nice.

 

[Michchamp]

From the "Good Riddance" file: TurningPointUSA founder Bill Montgomery dies of "coronavirus related complications."



Don't feel too bad... he still made it to 80.



Guy was a high-dollar bundler/astroturfer who helped found all the bullshit "Tea Party" movements.


TurningPoint USA has spent the last several months pushing for re-opening of businesses, claiming coronavirus was a "scare tactic," ridiculing masks, and pushing choloroquine as a cure. Safe to say there was already plenty of deaths on their hands. This one is justified though.

 

[Michchamp]

Oh Jeez, Herman Cain also just died from Coronavirus. He may have died from Trump's Tulsa rally, or at least that's the innuendo CNN is pushing:

As a co-chair of Black Voices for Trump, Cain was one of the surrogates at President Donald Trump's June 20 rally in Tulsa, Oklahoma -- which saw at least eight Trump advance team staffers in attendance test positive for coronavirus. Trump campaign spokesman Tim Murtaugh has told CNN that Cain did not meet with Trump at the Tulsa rally.
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But did he meet with any of the advance staffers who tested positive?

 

[tinselwolverine]

Oh Jeez, Herman Cain also just died from Coronavirus. He may have died from Trump's Tulsa rally, or at least that's the innuendo CNN is pushing:

As a co-chair of Black Voices for Trump, Cain was one of the surrogates at President Donald Trump's June 20 rally in Tulsa, Oklahoma -- which saw at least eight Trump advance team staffers in attendance test positive for coronavirus. Trump campaign spokesman Tim Murtaugh has told CNN that Cain did not meet with Trump at the Tulsa rally.
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But did he meet with any of the advance staffers who tested positive?

I heard he had it that?s wack.

Given his age and medical situation I would say he behaved recklessly.

The whole damn rally was pretty reckless.

That said, there likely won?t be enough Oklahomans who?ll die from attending the rally to end up costing Trump the state in the fall.

 

[Michchamp]

This is an absolute joke , the world is ending !!!! Fucking idiots https://twitter.com/JKepnerWFTV/status/1237915100452925448/photo/1

Let's just re-bump the original post in this thread, from March 11, 2020, or 141 days ago, 150,000 Americans have died from COVID-19, a number almost certainly a substantial undercount, as sggtecl noted, since some states started categorizing deaths due to pneumonia from COVID-19 as just "pneumonia" and tracking them separately, and elderly people who die alone or in nursing homes are often not being counted.

of course, these deaths and all the related suffering are despite a 3-month shutdown being ordered in most of the country, continuing restrictions since then, and Americans taking precautions like washing their hands and surfaces they touch more, and wearing masks.

And some significant percentage of people (CDC estimates 35%) who get COVID-19 and don't die are still afflicted with debilitating complications such as reduced lung function, and blood clots weeks and months later.

Articles like the Stanford study everyone cited (at least a lot of people on my linkedin feed) were revealed to be fraudulent, and in that case was funded by the CEO of JetBlue, who didn't care about how many people died, he just wanted his airline to keep packing them in.

And people like that are still around, wealthy as fuck and/or influential... we didn't stick them on icebergs and push them into the Atlantic... Ioannidis and everyone at Stanford who participated should be drummed out of the academy.

They can go on to write articles for TurningPointUSA about how "universities are hostile to conservative voices" for a living instead.

 

[sggatecl]

Oh Jeez, Herman Cain also just died from Coronavirus. He may have died from Trump's Tulsa rally, or at least that's the innuendo CNN is pushing:

As a co-chair of Black Voices for Trump, Cain was one of the surrogates at President Donald Trump's June 20 rally in Tulsa, Oklahoma -- which saw at least eight Trump advance team staffers in attendance test positive for coronavirus. Trump campaign spokesman Tim Murtaugh has told CNN that Cain did not meet with Trump at the Tulsa rally.
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But did he meet with any of the advance staffers who tested positive?

I heard he had it that’s wack.

Given his age and medical situation I would say he behaved recklessly.

The whole damn rally was pretty reckless.

That said, there likely won’t be enough Oklahomans who’ll die from attending the rally to end up costing Trump the state in the fall.

Posted not even 24 hours ago:

 

[sggatecl]

What a ridiculous hill to LITERALLY die on.

 

[tinselwolverine]

What a ridiculous hill to LITERALLY die on.

Damn.

I didn?t know Kristi Noem was so hot.

 

[Michchamp]

I assume Herman Cain wasn't writing those tweets while he was dying of COVID-19. Some social media manager dipshit was.

There's not a lot of coordination between these political-grift operations on the right (or left). They do the bare minimum to keep checks coming in, and aren't exactly on top of things.

... but at least they're not just sitting at home collecting welfare!!!! They're hard at work!111

 

[tinselwolverine]

Let's just re-bump the original post in this thread, from March 11, 2020, or 141 days ago, 150,000 Americans have died from COVID-19, a number almost certainly a substantial undercount, as sggtecl noted, since some states started categorizing deaths due to pneumonia from COVID-19 as just "pneumonia" and tracking them separately, and elderly people who die alone or in nursing homes are often not being counted.

of course, these deaths and all the related suffering are despite a 3-month shutdown being ordered in most of the country, continuing restrictions since then, and Americans taking precautions like washing their hands and surfaces they touch more, and wearing masks.

And some significant percentage of people (CDC estimates 35%) who get COVID-19 and don't die are still afflicted with debilitating complications such as reduced lung function, and blood clots weeks and months later.

Articles like the Stanford study everyone cited (at least a lot of people on my linkedin feed) were revealed to be fraudulent, and in that case was funded by the CEO of JetBlue, who didn't care about how many people died, he just wanted his airline to keep packing them in.

And people like that are still around, wealthy as fuck and/or influential... we didn't stick them on icebergs and push them into the Atlantic... Ioannidis and everyone at Stanford who participated should be drummed out of the academy.

They can go on to write articles for TurningPointUSA about how "universities are hostile to conservative voices" for a living instead.

The article linked to in what I first bolded has nothing to do with any count/undercount/over count in the United States.

It’s about Europe.

Studies conducted by Los Angeles County and the City of New York yielded similar results as the Stanford study - I linked to reports of those results on this thread months ago, when the results were first reported.

Like this?

@0:41

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=m1JakODvYhA&t=2s

 

[mhughes0021]

Damn.

I didn?t know Kristi Noem was so hot.

The good news is he wont be fed up anymore!

 

[tinselwolverine]

The good news is he wont be fed up anymore!

Not with pizza at least.

I wonder if he?ll be Godfathered into heaven?

Meanwhile, the pizza puns may end up having a Domino effect across other threads.