Coronainsanity

[byco42]

Was it Buchanan, MI? My 94 year old aunt tested positive in her nursing home along with 4 others. They got moved and quarantined then moved back 4 days later after her entire wing tested positive. So far, she has told my dad that she has mild cold symptoms but otherwise feels fine. She said the most ?suffering? she?s endured was being restricted to her room for 4 days.

I'm not going to confirm or deny any inquiries to location.

 

[tinselwolverine]

This is a rare swing and a miss. Maybe your least interesting script pitch. You could tie Gary Oldman to this project and I still wouldn't want to see it. Maybe if there were murder hornets trying to get into the cars...

Years ago I had a concept - the Governor of California is recalled and every wack job in the state throws their hat into ring to be elected Governor of California.

When the dust settles, an Austrian body builder/action movie star wins the election - I know, pretty far fetched, right?

 

[tinselwolverine]

KUSI is independently operated by "McKinnon Broadcasting."

From Wikipedia:

"... a privately owned television broadcasting company based in San Diego, California. Michael Dean McKinnon Sr., a longtime supporter of politically conservative causes, is the company's majority owner, president, chief executive officer (CEO), and chairman of the board."
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He appears to have gotten it the old-fashioned way, by inheriting it from his dad.

Come on you guys... show a little more critical thinking. This mud isn't very deep. Wonder how big the checks McKinnon writes to "Doctor" Kelly Victory's are? Is that even her real name?

For what’s worth or isn’t worth, there’s no reason to believe that Dr. Victory is paid any amount of money by KUSI or any other media outlet she expresses her medical opinion on - I primarily know her from KABC radio in Los Angeles.

She’s a trauma surgeon who has worked in triage situations and treated AIDS patients in the early days of that...pandemic? Don’t know how AIDS was initially categorized.

She’s worked as a corporate health consultant for years, most primarily for Harrah’s.

Here is Dr. Kelly’s bio as it appears on website published by Dr. Drew Pinsky, another prominent physician I refer to in #1499.

I think she is currently a private practitioner in Colorado.

 

[tinselwolverine]

WHO: Asymptotic contagiousness “not conclusive.”

I guess El Paso might be an outlier in COVID-19 problems right now. Any possibility that it might have something to do with bordering Juarez?

Seems like the the Mexican border does not reflect the impact Covid is having on the rest of the country.

Perhaps we should NOT use the border as the operational model for Covid policy and protocols for the rest of the country, no?

Just a thought, I mean.

 

[Spartanmack]

I'm not going to confirm or deny any inquiries to location.

understandable - besides, I just remembered my aunt used to live in rural Michigan. Her nursing home is actually in nearby rural Indiana, not far from the famous golden dome.

 

[Spartanmack]

Years ago I had a concept - the Governor of California is recalled and every wack job in the state throws their hat into ring to be elected Governor of California.

When the dust settles, an Austrian body builder/action movie star wins the election - I know, pretty far fetched, right?

an unexpected twist - I thought you were going to say that's how the Golden State ended up with it's current wack job governor.

 

[Spartanmack]

Seems like the the Mexican border does not reflect the impact Covid is having on the rest of the country.

Perhaps we should NOT use the border as the operational model for Covid policy and protocols for the rest of the country, no?

Just a thought, I mean.

OK, but just with respect to the pandemic. It should definitely be used as a model for all non-Covid protocols for the rest of the country (i.e. law enforcement, national security, intersectional and social justice, etc)

 

[Gulo Blue]

Years ago I had a concept - the Governor of California is recalled and every wack job in the state throws their hat into ring to be elected Governor of California.

When the dust settles, an Austrian body builder/action movie star wins the election - I know, pretty far fetched, right?

Sorry. Too out there for me. Just not remotely plausible.

 

[byco42]

Cuomo's response: "It's worse in other states."

Nursing home COVID deaths underreported in NY State.

 

[tinselwolverine]

an unexpected twist - I thought you were going to say that's how the Golden State ended up with it's current wack job governor.

I?m still expecting to wake up from the nighttime that is Gavin ?Newsollini? Newsom - has to be a dream or a B horror film.

 

[tinselwolverine]

Danish study: Mask wearing effectiveness questionable.

 

[sggatecl]

Danish study: Mask wearing effectiveness questionable.

An editorial published following the study?s publication said that the ?findings reinforce the importance of social distancing and hygiene measures and suggest that masks likely need to be worn by most if not all people to reduce community infection rates, which in turn will protect individuals.?

The editorial said the study specifically examined the effect of recommending mask use and not the effect of actually wearing them, adding, ?Adherence to public health recommendations is always imperfect, as it was in this study, and can differ dramatically in communities with different attitudes toward such recommendations.?

Additionally, the editorial noted that the effect of mask recommendations depends on various other factors, " including the prevalence of the virus, social distancing behaviors, and the frequency and characteristics of gatherings."

?Mask wearing is just one of several interacting strategies to reduce viral transmission, with each reinforcing the others,? the editorial said.

So pretty much what we've known all along. Masks are going to mean shit if you don't keep your distance and have proper hygiene.

 

[Michchamp]

So pretty much what we've known all along. Masks are going to mean shit if you don't keep your distance and have proper hygiene.

the lack of logic here is shocking... I remember Louie Gohmert got it, but said he'd use the same mask all the time and take it on and off without washing his hands.

Like... I thought most people understood the mask wasn't magic; it made in-person transmission less likely, but not impossible, and certainly didn't mean you wouldn't infect yourself if you, say, picked your nose without washing your hands first.

The 50-75% of Americans who are too stupid to think for themselves obviously needed a lot of hand holding to coach them on this.

If Trump - who was notoriously a germophobe himself - could've just changed his tone a bit back in February... and NOT given his followers the idea that COVID was completely made up and they should be aggressive and obnoxious about it... he would have been re-elected!

He would still be president and could keep making money off it by having the secret service stay at his hotels and getting open cash handouts/bribes (like this one) from foreign leaders!

"This new coronavirus is very dangerous. We're taking this very seriously. Wash your hands and wear a mask. Don't be an idiot. Listen to the CDC."

That's ALL he had to do! Hell, he could've even kept calling it the "Chinese Virus" if he wanted, as long as he encouraged people to take it seriously and not pretend it was made up!!!

Fuck!!! 250,000 (at least) Americans dead and counting...

 

[tinselwolverine]

So pretty much what we've known all along. Masks are going to mean shit if you don't keep your distance and have proper hygiene.

Okay.

We?ve been hearing rainbow and unicorn horseshit about how magically effective mask wearing is in combatting the virus.

Here in California anyway, we?ve been hearing it from our governor who has imposed draconian mandates - maybe the most draconian is the mask mandate - on all of the rest of which it?s been proven recently he believes he and his cronies aren?t themselves subject to.

The old asshole who it would appear will be elected president on Dec. 14, the election of whom it would appear will be certified by the Congress Jan. 6 and will assume the office at noon Jan. 20 - not that I actually gave much of a fuck which of the two old assholes would be president at noon on Jan. 20 - campaigned on a promise that a national mask mandate he would impose would ?shut down? the virus.

I?m tired of the bullshit.

Respectfully what you linked to and quoted strikes me as them just moving the goal post, not unlike what they?re been doing from day one.

 

[tomdalton22]

The 50-75% of Americans who are too stupid to think for themselves obviously needed a lot of hand holding to coach them on this.

If Trump - who was notoriously a germophobe himself - could've just changed his tone a bit back in February... and NOT given his followers the idea that COVID was completely made up and they should be aggressive and obnoxious about it... he would have been re-elected!

He would still be president and could keep making money off it by having the secret service stay at his hotels and getting open cash handouts/bribes (like this one) from foreign leaders!

"This new coronavirus is very dangerous. We're taking this very seriously. Wash your hands and wear a mask. Don't be an idiot. Listen to the CDC."

That's ALL he had to do! Hell, he could've even kept calling it the "Chinese Virus" if he wanted, as long as he encouraged people to take it seriously and not pretend it was made up!!!

Fuck!!! 250,000 (at least) Americans dead and counting...

I still don't put much blame on Trump. People don't listen anyway.

One of my wife's co-workers entire family has Covid (as of last week). They are flying to the east coast for Thanksgiving. The first thing they do at security at the airport is ask if you have had COVID or any symptoms and I guess this family is just going to lie. WTF???

 

[Gulo Blue]

We?ve been hearing rainbow and unicorn horseshit about how magically effective mask wearing is in combatting the virus.

No we haven't.


We've heard that it's important and everybody should be doing it. Nobody said (not the literal nobody, obviously, just nobody you should listen to) - nobody said it would stomp out the virus on it's own. The great thing about masks is that it's a cheap and easy thing we can all do. Every other tool we've got sucks worse for one reason or another. The thing that's special about wearing a mask is the ratio of how much it helps divided by how little it crashes the economy.

 

[tinselwolverine]

the lack of logic here is shocking... I remember Louie Gohmert got it, but said he'd use the same mask all the time and take it on and off without washing his hands.

Like... I thought most people understood the mask wasn't magic; it made in-person transmission less likely, but not impossible, and certainly didn't mean you wouldn't infect yourself if you, say, picked your nose without washing your hands first.

The 50-75% of Americans who are too stupid to think for themselves obviously needed a lot of hand holding to coach them on this.

If Trump - who was notoriously a germophobe himself - could've just changed his tone a bit back in February... and NOT given his followers the idea that COVID was completely made up and they should be aggressive and obnoxious about it... he would have been re-elected!

He would still be president and could keep making money off it by having the secret service stay at his hotels and getting open cash handouts/bribes (like this one) from foreign leaders!

"This new coronavirus is very dangerous. We're taking this very seriously. Wash your hands and wear a mask. Don't be an idiot. Listen to the CDC."

That's ALL he had to do! Hell, he could've even kept calling it the "Chinese Virus" if he wanted, as long as he encouraged people to take it seriously and not pretend it was made up!!!

Fuck!!! 250,000 (at least) Americans dead and counting...

.

Yeah, you wouldn?t infect yourself doing that or anything else.

I guess if a person sniffed a Covid riddled Petrie jar that person could get infected, But even then it could be argued the person did not infect them self-it was the Petrie jar that infected that person.

Also, the Danish study indicates that mask wearing apparently doesn?t make transmission less likely at all.

They have been doing studies of respiratory infections being affected by mask wearing long before there was Covid, and some of those studies concluded that mask wearing actually made transmission more likely, by breaking the droplets into actually more transmittable sized droplets.

 

[sggatecl]

Okay.

We?ve been hearing rainbow and unicorn horseshit about how magically effective mask wearing is in combatting the virus.

The problem with those touting the efficacy of wearing a mask is that there are so many types of masks and they often put them all on the same pedestal. If my neighbor thinks the cloth mask his wife made him will work as well as the P95 my wife procured, he (and anyone else that thinks so) is delusional.

Respectfully what you linked to and quoted strikes me as them just moving the goal post, not unlike what they?re been doing from day one.

That's why I made sure to highlight it. Within the same article you shared was another editorial from the same exact source that made the whole initial article and study redundant.

As far as moving the goal posts, I feel that's kind of a harsh way of putting it. Frankly speaking, it seems like even the brightest and best of the world are flying by the seat of their pants with this thing and as new data comes out they 'move the goal posts'.

Everything from how it's transmitted, how long it lives on surfaces, long term effects on patients that 'recovered', etc. I think they often plan for the worst and hope for the best and their recommendations tend to mirror that.

 

[Gulo Blue]

I thought they'd been saying for a long time that masks reduce transmission and don't protect the wearer. I saw a recent claim that there might be some protection to the wearer, but that contradicts the messaging I've heard for a long time now.

 

[sggatecl]

The thing that's special about wearing a mask is the ratio of how much it helps divided by how little it crashes the economy.

That's what drives me fucking mad. You've got a group of people that are enraged that any company or business has to alter their practices but in that same breath when told those businesses can stay open if they wear a mask, they can't fucking handle it.

They want everything to be 100% normal and won't have it any other way.