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Coronainsanity

michchamp said:
I guess the other hing the pandemic taught me is how many people in our society are okay with 100,000s dying per year (not to mention the non-trivial number of people who recover but suffer from longer term health effects) as long as they aren't inconvenienced in any way. AT ALL. Convenience completely outweighs another human's life.

I'm not being sarcastic... it's a good lesson. I needed to learn it.
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The data from the study is the data. People in the lockdown states were no safer those in the free states.

Just like I knew and said it was going to be.

And I have no objection to inconvenience if it results in real and a true safety.

Everyday I avoid running over pedestrians while I?m driving when it would much more convenient to go, ?ah, just fuck it.?

To me that is a vastly more quantifyable example of compassion and empathy than the wearing of some stupid mask that study after study after study has demonstrated to be worthless.

And I?m not being sarcastic; I really don?t run over pedestrians.
 
michchamp said:
To be fair - or at least accurate - he never said the CDC was his "preferred source" just that he considered it better than the Daily Wire (which is admittedly a low bar). And just because the Daily Wire cited some Astroturfed pro-business PR group that "used the CDC data" doesn't mean the data supports the conclusions their "study" jumps to. Was their study published in an actual medical journal and has it been peer-reviewed and commented favorably on by actual doctors and public health professionals? If it was, by all means, include a link to that, and I'll read it.

if you take away the fact that you misquoted him, and re-framed his entire point to say what you want it to say, and cited a bullshit, pro-business "study" no reasonable person in 2022 would even bother to consider in the first place, I don't think you've actually provided anything of substance worth commenting on here, and you should be happy he even deigned to respond to your post in the first place. You should thank him for giving you attention.
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Yeah, I didn't misquote him or re-frame his entire point - he had no point other than to dismiss the study off hand based on the source. Your attempt to back him up with this smoke and mirrors stupidity doesn't change anything. It only further exposes you as the hack you are.

Why do we need medical professionals' opinions and why does it have to be published in a medical journal? It used data on dead people, the economy and when kids returned to school. It's not about the virus itself or the science of vaccines, vaccines generally or any therapeutics. It's not a medical study. And what need is there for input from public health officials? The study is evaluating their response to the pandemic. Wouldn't a study by public health officials on their response to the pandemic be a conflict of interest? Yes, it would. It would be like asking Andrew Cuomo to evaluate his decision to force nursing homes to take COVID infected patients. And someone actually did do that - they paid the guy $5mm to write a book about it, which you probably bought, along with an "I'm a Cuomosexual" t-shirt. Again, this is just smoke and mirrors bull shit - these authorities you refer to add nothing. You just threw them out there thinking it somehow discredits the study but it doesn't.

The rest of your post is just a big strawman. Nobody says any of the things you say they do.
 
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Spartanmack said:
Yeah, I didn't misquote him or re-frame his entire point - he had no point other than to dismiss the study off hand based on the source. Your attempt to back him up with this smoke and mirrors stupidity doesn't change anything. It only further exposes you as the hack you are.

Why do we need medical professionals' opinions and why does it have to be published in a medical journal? It used data on dead people, the economy and when kids returned to school. It's not about the virus itself or the science of vaccines, vaccines generally or any therapeutics. It's not a medical study. And what need is there for input from public health officials? The study is evaluating their response to the pandemic. Wouldn't a study by public health officials on their response to the pandemic be a conflict of interest? Yes, it would. It would be like asking Andrew Cuomo to evaluate his decision to force nursing homes to take COVID infected patients? Yeah it is. And someone actually did do that - they paid the guy $5mm to write a book about it, which you probably bought, along with a "I'm a Cuomosexual" t-shirt. Again, this is just smoke and mirrors bull shit - these authorities you refer to add nothing. You just threw them out there thinking it somehow discredits the study but it doesn't.

The rest of your post is just a big strawman. Nobody says any of the things you say they do.
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To be clear and fair and accurate, I am the one who says ?they would die anyway.? I own that in #5899.
 
tinselwolverine said:
To be clear and fair and accurate, I am the one who says ?they would die anyway.? I own that in #5899.
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Fair. Really nobody makes the first argument, that's a complete straw man. The other 2 are both legitimate points that he's trying to trivialize. It's common knowledge we count both infections and deaths differently than other countries and within our own borders, there were some major inconsistencies from different jurisdictions. how much is it off by? no one knows for sure but deaths were recently revised downward by 100k or something like that - with the caveat that the number could be much higher. But he's going with the same argument he uses for the election - if you can't prove it's wrong, then it's right. Or maybe even more extreme, if you can't prove exactly how wrong it is, then it's right. F'n brilliant.
 
tinselwolverine said:
Good news
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indeed. We're leaving for vacation tonight. I saw an article that said Delta sent out a memo to employees informing them that things will likely be chaotic as this information has to be disseminated to multiple entities (airlines, TSA, airport personnel, passengers, etc) and then hundreds if not thousands of people within those entities. Should be interesting.
 
Went to the eye doctor yesterday, it was in a health building and mask requirement signs were all over the place. nearly everyone in the building was wearing a mask still. I did not and nobody said a word and half the staff was wearing theirs below the nose. it's all just theater and I stopped playing along a long time ago.
 
tigermud said:
Went to the eye doctor yesterday, it was in a health building and mask requirement signs were all over the place. nearly everyone in the building was wearing a mask still. I did not and nobody said a word and half the staff was wearing theirs below the nose. it's all just theater and I stopped playing along a long time ago.
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Glad you and the Biden Administration agree on all this.
 
michchamp said:
Glad you and the Biden Administration agree on all this.
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Buck doesn't agree, he was struck down in the courts again, for now. baring mail in vote harvest and machine flipping massive landslide congressional defeat for Buck in NOV. Buck still well on track to go down as the worst president in American history. And I actually had a dream last night Hillary will be the dems candidate in 24, although I also just concluded the series final of agents of shield last night also so all the alternative timeline stuff may have influenced my nightmares.
 
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tigermud said:
Buck doesn't agree, he was struck down in the courts again, for now. baring mail in vote harvest and machine flipping massive landslide congressional defeat for Buck in NOV. Buck still well on track to go down as the worst president in American history. And I actually had a dream last night Hillary will be the dems candidate in 24, although I also just concluded the series final of agents of shield last night also so all the alternative timeline stuff may have influenced my nightmares.
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You should seek help.
 
tigermud said:
Buck doesn't agree, he was struck down in the courts again, for now. baring mail in vote harvest and machine flipping massive landslide congressional defeat for Buck in NOV. Buck still well on track to go down as the worst president in American history. And I actually had a dream last night Hillary will be the dems candidate in 24, although I also just concluded the series final of agents of shield last night also so all the alternative timeline stuff may have influenced my nightmares.
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These things happen.

Meanwhile they are already talking about a reboot of that show starring Clark Gregg, Julia Louise Dreyfus and Wanda Sykes called ?the new adventures of the old agents of shield hosting the WWE Academy Awards live from 1 Observatory Circle.?
 
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tinselwolverine said:
These things happen.

Meanwhile they are already talking about a reboot of that show starring Clark Gregg, Julia Louise Dreyfus and Wanda Sykes called ?the new adventures of the old agents of shield hosting the WWE Academy Awards live from 1 Observatory Circle.?
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Oh, I almost forgot the most important thing. Samuel L Jackson, Cobie Smulders and Hayley Atwell will once again all be reprising their roles from the Avengers movies in cameo appearances.
 
tinselwolverine said:
Oh, I almost forgot the most important thing. Samuel L Jackson, Cobie Smulders and Hayley Atwell will once again all be reprising their roles from the Avengers movies in cameo appearances.
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Kid says to watch the Agent Carter seasons next. I'm way behind on this stuff.
 
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tigermud said:
DOJ to appeal mask ruling

What is wrong with these people, they are all sick with authoritarianism. How to continue doing what you're doing to ensure biggest landslide mid term defeat in history. Buck Fiden

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/mask-mandate-cdc-justice-department-appeal/
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even with a full blown propaganda campaign running for the last couple months to convince us "COVID is over" 56% of Americans still want to keep the mask mandate in place for flights. You and "Buck" are in the minority here.
 
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