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ESPN QB Rankings

This thread is full of fucktardary.

QB's I would take over Stafford, TODAY: Brees, Brady, Rodgers, Eli. No idea how Peyton is going to be, so I wouldn't take him.

That's it in no particular order. I'm not going into factors such as age.

I have yet to see Stafford throw away such a huge lead and lose. Granted, he has only played one full season, but we all know Romo is good for 2 of those a year.
 
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Okay, let me smack you once and for all:

https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2012/05/03/the-pro-football-focus-top-101-players-of-2011/

ProFootballFocus analyzes every single play. They know 10x more about football than anyone here. They've got Stafford at 81 on their list, based solely on last years performances and not adjusting anything for injury. Its based off the whole season.

Now, please tell me...where is Romo??? And before you start bullshitting on how this site is meaningless, they offer much, much more credibility than your personal opinion or your basic (i.e. worthless) statistics that don't properly analyze SOS, talent, ect.
And funny enough, someone in the comments complained about Romo not being on there based on stats, and this was the response:

No, it?s not based on those numbers. If it was there would be no need for anyone to do more than look at box scores and take one from another. We take every throw, by every QB and rate them in the context of the game and what happened on that individual play. If you want to know why QB Ratings and pure numbers are of little use watch this play: http://prod.www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/09000d5d81cd41c6/Lions-Spievey-gets-lucky-INT


Now, please stfu and go away, moron.

"Oh look, here's this list that somebody else put together. Even though I don't know if I agree with it I'm going to use it as indisputable proof that you're a moron and don't know what you're talking about. I'm such a badass!" "Oh, and 4 int is better than 1." "I also like to suck donkey dick."

For the record, that was you talking, not me.
 
Okay, let me smack you once and for all:

https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2012/05/03/the-pro-football-focus-top-101-players-of-2011/

ProFootballFocus analyzes every single play. They know 10x more about football than anyone here. They've got Stafford at 81 on their list, based solely on last years performances and not adjusting anything for injury. Its based off the whole season.

Now, please tell me...where is Romo??? And before you start bullshitting on how this site is meaningless, they offer much, much more credibility than your personal opinion or your basic (i.e. worthless) statistics that don't properly analyze SOS, talent, ect.
And funny enough, someone in the comments complained about Romo not being on there based on stats, and this was the response:

No, it’s not based on those numbers. If it was there would be no need for anyone to do more than look at box scores and take one from another. We take every throw, by every QB and rate them in the context of the game and what happened on that individual play. If you want to know why QB Ratings and pure numbers are of little use watch this play: http://prod.www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/09000d5d81cd41c6/Lions-Spievey-gets-lucky-INT


Now, please stfu and go away, moron.


Sweet list brah...now I can argue Matt Ryan is a top QB and no one can dispute it. I now know that Geno Atkins is the best DT in the entire NFL.. way to put me in my place.Thanks fir maken me smarterer.

Good thing Alan Branch is on there though, he's a real play-maker that guy.

Shove this list up your ass, we enjoy common sense around here. Not copy and pasted information from someone's basement.
 
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This thread is full of fucktardary.

QB's I would take over Stafford, TODAY: Brees, Brady, Rodgers, Eli. No idea how Peyton is going to be, so I wouldn't take him.

That's it in no particular order. I'm not going into factors such as age.

I have yet to see Stafford throw away such a huge lead and lose. Granted, he has only played one full season, but we all know Romo is good for 2 of those a year.

I think that is the concesus....it sounds like Peyton is healthy so I would take him too. After those 5 the next 5-7 are pretty interchangable. Not taking age into consideration but only looking on history I can see why some people have concerns with Stafford based on his injury history. Going forward looking at age and potential the only QBs I would take before Stafford is Rodgers. I MIGHT even consider Luck just because of the financial end of it. Those new contracts are very cap friendly.
 
Sweet list brah...now I can argue Matt Ryan is a top QB and no one can dispute it. I now know that Geno Atkins is the best DT in the entire NFL.. way to put me in my place.Thanks fir maken me smarterer.

Good thing Alan Branch is on there though, he's a real play-maker that guy.

Shove this list up your ass, we enjoy common sense around here. Not copy and pasted information from someone's basement.

You realize Atkins was in the Pro Bowl, right? Why is it ridiculous to think he had the best year of any DT last year? And what's wrong with Branch? He's outstanding against the run.

As for Matt Ryan, he's ranked 6th on this list, and, other than Stafford, I wouldn't put anyone else above him. Not Rivers, not Vick, not Newton, and definitely not Romo.

And this quote "Shove this list up your ass, we enjoy common sense around here. Not copy and pasted information from someone's basement." is what happens when you have no legitimate response. PFF has a great reputation. Rotoworld goes to them for practically all their analysis. Even ESPN posts PFF analysis from time to time. Pretty good job by someone sitting in a basement lol. Why can't you go away?
 
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You realize Atkins was in the Pro Bowl, right? Why is it ridiculous to think he had the best year of any DT last year? And what's wrong with Branch? He's outstanding against the run.

As for Matt Ryan, he's ranked 6th on this list, and, other than Stafford, I wouldn't put anyone else above him. Not Rivers, not Vick, not Newton, and definitely not Romo.

And this quote "Shove this list up your ass, we enjoy common sense around here. Not copy and pasted information from someone's basement." is what happens when you have no legitimate response. PFF has a great reputation. Rotoworld goes to them for practically all their analysis. Even ESPN posts PFF analysis from time to time. Pretty good job by someone sitting in a basement lol. Why can't you go away?

So Alan Branch was a top 100 player in the entire NFL last year? Fair enough...I guess I'll never understand how a player like romo finishes better in every statistical category than Matt Ryan, has less of a run game and possibly less weapons overall but doesn't make the top 100 while Ryan does. Tony Romo had laurent robinson leading the league in TD receptions. Talk about getting the most out of someone.

Maybe I should start reading more PFF and watching less games.

Alan Branch was definitely more of an impact player in the NFL than Romo last season.

166 tackles for London Fletcher lands him just behind Alan Branch..good effort though London.
 
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Could you post that whole thing? Or at least the stuff on Stafford? I don't have insider

#2 top 10 under 25,#1 was Shady McCoy.

Pros: Stafford racked up more than 5,000 passing yards last season despite throwing more than 75 percent of his targets to guys like Brandon Pettigrew, Nate Burleson, Titus Young and Tony Scheffler. Having Calvin Johnson as a primary target is a big help, but those numbers illustrate Stafford has an ability to post voluminous numbers even when throwing to less-than-elite pass-catchers.

Cons: He has had only one healthy NFL season, something that shows Stafford still has a ways to go to prove his long-term durability.

Before Stafford joined the Lions, the only real weapon on offense was Johnson. Since then, Martin Mayhew has spent a lot of time building around Stafford by adding guys like Pettigrew, Burleson, Young, Scheffler, Jahvid Best and Mikel Leshoure. Once you find that "cornerstone" player, it's important to surround him with talent, and the Lions have certainly done a good job of that with Stafford.
 
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So Alan Branch was a top 100 player in the entire NFL last year? Fair enough...I guess I'll never understand how a player like romo finishes better in every statistical category than Matt Ryan, has less of a run game and possibly less weapons overall but doesn't make the top 100 while Ryan does. Tony Romo had laurent robinson leading the league in TD receptions. Talk about getting the most out of someone.

Maybe I should start reading more PFF and watching less games.

Alan Branch was definitely more of an impact player in the NFL than Romo last season.

166 tackles for London Fletcher lands him just behind Alan Branch..good effort though London.

"romo finishes better in every statistical category than Matt Ryan" BOX SCORE STATS ARE USELESS! Whatever, your puny brain can't handle that. I'm done.
 
#2 top 10 under 25,#1 was Shady McCoy.

Pros: Stafford racked up more than 5,000 passing yards last season despite throwing more than 75 percent of his targets to guys like Brandon Pettigrew, Nate Burleson, Titus Young and Tony Scheffler. Having Calvin Johnson as a primary target is a big help, but those numbers illustrate Stafford has an ability to post voluminous numbers even when throwing to less-than-elite pass-catchers.

Cons: He has had only one healthy NFL season, something that shows Stafford still has a ways to go to prove his long-term durability.

Before Stafford joined the Lions, the only real weapon on offense was Johnson. Since then, Martin Mayhew has spent a lot of time building around Stafford by adding guys like Pettigrew, Burleson, Young, Scheffler, Jahvid Best and Mikel Leshoure. Once you find that "cornerstone" player, it's important to surround him with talent, and the Lions have certainly done a good job of that with Stafford.

Thanks. Love it.
 
"romo finishes better in every statistical category than Matt Ryan" BOX SCORE STATS ARE USELESS! Whatever, your puny brain can't handle that. I'm done.

Yeah completely useless...understood. Enjoy masterbating to your top 100 list the God's put together.
 
... BOX SCORE STATS ARE USELESS! Whatever, your puny brain can't handle that. I'm done.

Therefore, if you would like to properly compare the CURRENT talents of each player....

Last 4 games for Stafford: 1664 yds, 15 tds, 4 ints, 64 completion %, 8.76 YPA
Last 4 FULL games for Romo: 1158 yds, 10 tds, 1 int, 72 completion %, 8.27 YPA

If you're gonna talk shit at least don't blatantly contradict yourself because those sure as hell look like box score stats, you spun out prick.
 
If you're gonna talk shit at least don't blatantly contradict yourself because those sure as hell look like box score stats, you spun out prick.

Your puny little brain could never understand what he's talking about.
 
If you're gonna talk shit at least don't blatantly contradict yourself because those sure as hell look like box score stats, you spun out prick.

I wasn't suggesting that I, myself, would use those stats. I was simply saying that, if he really wanted to use them himself, he should only focus on those last four games.

And, seriously, why are you so mad? Tony? Tony Romo? Is that you?
 
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