Ferguson, MO

[Thumb]

Ummmm...so how do the police arrest them when they?re resisting arrest?

It's possible to still arrest someone who is resisting, hell, watch a re-run of COPS and you see it all the time.

Police carry guns to protect their own lives and the lives of others, not to shoot people in the back 7 times because they thought he might be going for a knife....wait until you see the knife and are in danger, then shoot if necessary, like this

Note how long in that video it took for the officers to shoot, and only 1 round each.

 

[tomdalton22]

You're joking, but I'm not sure what this guy did that would warrant getting arrested in the first place. There was some kind of dispute, police showed up, and he was leaving.

he had a felony warrant on him for 3rd degree sexual assault. Based on the 911 recording, he was the reason the cops were called to the scene. The person that called said that he wasn't supposed to be on the property, which I assume means that he had a restraining order against him?

 

[Gulo Blue]

It's possible to still arrest someone who is resisting, hell, watch a re-run of COPS and you see it all the time.

Police carry guns to protect their own lives and the lives of others, not to shoot people in the back 7 times because they thought he might be going for a knife....wait until you see the knife and are in danger, then shoot if necessary, like this

Note how long in that video it took for the officers to shoot, and only 1 round each.

Don't disrupt the partisan divide. The only two options are to let people go or shoot them in the back 7 times.

 

[Gulo Blue]

he had a felony warrant on him for 3rd degree sexual assault. Based on the 911 recording, he was the reason the cops were called to the scene. The person that called said that he wasn't supposed to be on the property, which I assume means that he had a restraining order against him?

OK, what you wrote was that the caller was uncooperative. But if the police were acting on a warrant, that would make sense.

 

[Michchamp]

Don't disrupt the partisan divide. The only two options are to let people go or shoot them in the back 7 times.

and if you let them go, shortly after they get away, they'll seize control of the entire country, and rule America.

so really the only option is to shoot them and kill them before that happens.

 

[tomdalton22]

OK, what you wrote was that the caller was uncooperative. But if the police were acting on a warrant, that would make sense.

I didn't understand the 911 caller being uncooperative...why call 911 on someone then not cooperate??

 

[tinselwolverine]

Don't disrupt the partisan divide. The only two options are to let people go or shoot them in the back 7 times.

Well, this used to be a reasonable option...note not one gun was drawn and nobody died.

Ahh, the good old days.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sb1WywIpUtY

 

[Michchamp]

Well, this used to be a reasonable option...note not one gun was drawn and nobody died.

Ahh, the good old days.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sb1WywIpUtY

somebody died when the pigs tried that approach in Detroit. Remember Malice Green?

 

[tinselwolverine]

somebody died when the pigs tried that approach in Detroit. Remember Malice Green?

The pigs?

Really?

I don?t remember it, but I just looked it up and I saw that the cops were convicted.

Two of the cops ended up doing time for the Rodney King event.

 

[Gulo Blue]

Well, this used to be a reasonable option...note not one gun was drawn and nobody died.

Ahh, the good old days.

Libertarians. Always showing up with their 3rd options...

 

[Michchamp]

Libertarians. Always showing up with their 3rd options...

and their "third option" is always bloody enough to satisfy Right Wing Authoritarians.

 

[tinselwolverine]

It's possible to still arrest someone who is resisting, hell, watch a re-run of COPS and you see it all the time.

I thought COPS is forbidden to be shown even in reruns on any television venue, it?s like, gone with the wind.

But you could post some video clips of what you?re talking about if you can find them.

 

[Gulo Blue]

How about this one?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hLSd962n-s




It fails to catch on the last 1-second of the video!

 

[tinselwolverine]

Libertarians. Always showing up with their 3rd options...

Well yeah?if beatings with billy clubs are off the table, I am going to stick with my rubber bullets to the balls option.

And again? That?s a multi racial option. Applies to non-compliant resistors of all races.

 

[Gulo Blue]

Well yeah?if beatings with billy clubs are off the table, I am going to stick with my rubber bullets to the balls option.

And again? That?s a multi racial option. Applies to non-compliant resistors of all races.

It's sexist though.

 

[tinselwolverine]

It's sexist though.

Not that many women of any race being shot in the back while resisting.

There?s Breonna Taylor, but I don?t think she was resisting and she wasn?t shot in the back, unless she used to sleep on her stomach.

 

[tomdalton22]

I read that Blake is handcuffed to his bed. I guess they think he is going to crawl out of his hospital bed like that dude in Breaking Bad.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKMdzJFcyro

 

[Polish-Hammer]

It's possible to still arrest someone who is resisting, hell, watch a re-run of COPS and you see it all the time.

Police carry guns to protect their own lives and the lives of others, not to shoot people in the back 7 times because they thought he might be going for a knife....wait until you see the knife and are in danger, then shoot if necessary, like this

Note how long in that video it took for the officers to shoot, and only 1 round each.

Oh you mean shoot an unarmed man because the clerk already disarmed the suspect?

He almost snached 2 guns from those cops, certain people aren't cut out to be police officers and there is an example of 3 in that scenario alone.

Let me know when the protests start cause unarmed aggressive white dude was shot by the cops.

Was shooting necessary at that point? Probably not.
Was it justified, probably.

 

[Polish-Hammer]

I caught this on the Rich Eisen show right before I took my sister to the doctor.

T. J. Jefferson experience being Black in America, and being profiled by the color of his skin.. He works on Rich?s show.

https://youtu.be/1gSSi4kMtpM

So he was detained and investigated because he matched a description of someone commiting crimes on the street he was walking. Yup, common every day racism by cops there. Oh and he was let go just because he wasn't the right guy? Sounds like racism.


It sucks the guy lives in a persistant state of victimhood, but a lot of that is his mentality. It is a culture of fear that is spread throughout that community more than reality.

I somehow doubt he actually takes his wallet, and vehicle documentation and puts it in the open when he drives. Who knows maybe he does, but that sounds unlikely.

 

[Polish-Hammer]

The police aren't supposed to kill people for not "following instructions." They're supposed to arrest them and let a judge or jury of their peers determine if they actually committed a crime. Police aren't hired to make those determinations (they're too dumb).

At least that was how it used to work.

This is America, not Poland. At least it was America before millions of corrupt, authoritarian-loving Poles, Ukrainians and Russians started moving here from the Eastern Bloc...

If officer dirp dirp sees the guy reach for a weapon, its a justified shoot. Yes it's awful, and it looks bad. Those two are not mutual exclusive.

There isn't enough info to determine wether it was justified or not. Like I said, the context matters.


There are also people crying about the number of shots. Officers are taught to shoot until threat is down. Keep in mind officer dirp dirp missed 3 of the 7 shots he fired.


He would probably be dead if officer dirp dirp had semi decent shooting stance.