Game 5: Eagles @ Lions Thread

[tonyballs]

So it's your position slay was going for the strip and Mathews was solid in ball protection?

Not really sure what I thought Slay was doing. He was text book in his positioning and he did get low on Mathews. Low enough to where Slay's shoulder directly went into the football causing the fumble. That's what you're taught.....that's football 101. That's making a play. That's why he's paid the way he is.
Mathews was not solid in protecting the ball. He should have had the ball in his right arm. I still think the way Slay went into Mathews body that the fumble still could have happened. You couldn't have asked for a better tackle if thwy ran that play 10x in a row. TEXT BOOK.

 

[LKP]

Gift is what stafford gave eagles for the 3rd quarter fg. Not forced at all. Slay forced that fumble

Lions deserved that recovery. Cant prove kelce touched while out. Eagles punt either way and lions run more time off clock.

Lions outplayed eagles by a good amount. Tru win. Lions beat titans and packers too but many bad ref mistakes went wrong way. We have about 7 more ref mistakes we need our way to even out

Week 17 they should call a penalty every play on green bay to even this out

 

[sggatecl]

Fun fact:

Our 2-3 Lions are 11 points away from being 5-0 while simultaneously 5 points away from being 0-5.

 

[kdp1980]

Gift is what stafford gave eagles for the 3rd quarter fg. Not forced at all. Slay forced that fumble

Lions deserved that recovery. Cant prove kelce touched while out. Eagles punt either way and lions run more time off clock.

Lions outplayed eagles by a good amount. Tru win. Lions beat titans and packers too but many bad ref mistakes went wrong way. We have about 7 more ref mistakes we need our way to even out

Week 17 they should call a penalty every play on green bay to even this out

Lions scored 3 points in the 2nd half. In all honestly, I love seeing teams take their foot of the gas or go flat in the second half and lose. It just shows you who the better coached team is. Good teams adjust.

 

[tomdalton22]

And you can be out of bounds and just touch the ball that's in bounds and that gives you possession? That doesn't even make a lick of sense...lol. Is it a dead ball? Doesn't someone have to actually have possession of the ball?

last team to have possession keeps the ball. Just like he fumbled it straight out of bounds.

 

[LKP]

Lions scored 3 points in the 2nd half. In all honestly, I love seeing teams take their foot of the gas or go flat in the second half and lose. It just shows you who the better coached team is. Good teams adjust.

Lions didnt need to adjust up 21 10. Thr better coached team won the game. And austin had slay force two turnovers.

 

[detrisin]

Lions didnt need to adjust up 21 10. Thr better coached team won the game. And austin had slay force two turnovers.

Then Austin should use those force a turnover plays more often. "Hey Haloti, it's your turn. Go force a fumble." Two drives later, "Glover, you haven't had a pick in a while, go get one."

 

[dubbsco]

I just never understood that, in any form of sports. Look at what MSU did in their game against BYU. Come out, throw the ball, score a TD. From then on out, they decide to shut it down and run run run until they were blue in the face.

If the Lions did what they did in the first few possessions in the entire 2nd half, they could have won that game by 25. Instead, they lost the identity and fell into the standard sports-ism of letting your foot off the gas. To me, that speaks horribly on the coaching staff. Getting 30 or so yards in any HALF, let alone any QUARTER of football is inexcusable. The players won this game and the coaches did everything in their power to lose.

 

[kdp1980]

Getting 30 or so yards in any HALF, let alone any QUARTER of football is inexcusable. The players won this game and the coaches did everything in their power to lose.

Exactly, I wonder what halftime speech looked like. Caldwell tell Stafford to quit throwing to Jones, and tell the offense that only 1 more first down is required to win the game. Wonder if Caldwell is even called out by anybody?

 

[tonyballs]

last team to have possession keeps the ball. Just like he fumbled it straight out of bounds.

But the ball is still in bounds though. That rule is retarded if it's so. I need to see the language on it to belive it lol. You should have possession of the ball always.

 

[dubbsco]

And the guy denies EVERYTHING. Someone said, "You showed a lot of emotion there after the fumble, can you elaborate on that?"

And he said something to the effect of I'm always excited, you guys don't have your cameras on me all the time.

How about just saying, "Yup, I was excited. Big play, showed emotion."

That's why he's becoming one of the more hated coaches in our Lions history. He seemed to be a pretty likable down to earth guy at the start. He's become laughably deflective and aloof after a couple of years.

 

[brewer229]

But the ball is still in bounds though. That rule is retarded if it's so. I need to see the language on it to belive it lol. You should have possession of the ball always.

Think it would fall partially under Rule 3, Section 2, Article 4

LOOSE BALL. A Loose Ball is a live ball that is not in player possession, i.e., any ball that has been kicked,
passed, or fumbled. A Loose Ball is considered to be in possession of the team (offense) whose player kicked, passed, or
fumbled it. It is a Loose Ball until a player secures possession or until the ball becomes dead.

If a player is touching a ball while any part of his body is out of bounds, the ball instantly becomes dead. So since it was still a loose ball, not yet secured, the ball was deemed to still be in possession of philly. So therefore when the ball became dead it should of remained with philly.

 

[kalinecountry]

Here?s a look at some other key stats ? good and bad ? after five weeks of Lions football:

Linebacker Tahir Whitehead registered a career single-game high 12 tackles vs. Philadelphia. It was his fourth game in 2016 with 10-plus tackles and fifth such game of his career.

The Lions rank third in the NFL with 11 drives consisting of at least 10 plays. Only Dallas (16) and Indianapolis (11) have more.
But on the flip side, the Lions rank 25th in the league with 25 percent of their drives resulting in a three and out.

Stafford led the Lions on a seven-play 28-yard drive to position the team for a game-winning 29-yard field goal against the Eagles. The drive was Stafford?s 22nd career game-winning drive (second in 2016) in the fourth quarter or overtime when the Lions trailed or were tied.

Detroit is one of just four teams in the NFL perfect on fourth down so far this season. Dallas, Denver and Philadelphia are the other three.

Long snapper Don Mulhbach tied Hall of Fame cornerback Dick LeBeau (185) for the sixth-most games played in Detroit Lions history by playing in his 185th vs. the Eagles last week.

Detroit?s average starting field position on offense is the 22.6-yard line. Only Kansas City (22.3) is worse.

With 37 receiving yards against the Eagles, Marvin Jones Jr. surpassed 500 receiving yards in the season?s first five games (519). He joined Herman Moore (1996) and Calvin Johnson (2012) as the only players in team history with 500-plus receiving yards through the first five games of a season.

The Lions rank 28th in the NFL with a dropped pass percentage of 8.8. They?ve been credited with 10 drops in five games by STATS, INC.

Detroit?s offense has the third-most plays of 10-plus yards this season (72) and the eighth most of 20-plus yards (20).

The Lions' defense has allowed 25 points this season on the first possession of the second half. The league average is 10 points allowed.

 

[cheeno]

Real boom or bust offense in those stats there KC.

 

[LKP]

http://www.sportingcharts.com/nfl/stats/team-drives-starting-in-own-territory-statistics/2016/

All but one lions drive start in own territory

 

[mhughes0021]

Detroit?s average starting field position on offense is the 22.6-yard line. Only Kansas City (22.3) is worse.


The Lions rank 28th in the NFL with a dropped pass percentage of 8.8. They?ve been credited with 10 drops in five games by STATS, INC.

Avg starting field position being so bad is clearly due to our shitty defense. They jut simply cant get off the field in key moments.

New set of Receivers...same old drops. I think its safe to say at this point that Stafford just does not throw a very easily catchable ball. He has seemed a bit more accurate in his throws as of late....probably because he never throws the ball over 10 yards anymore lol. But he is still seeing the drops.

 

[kalinecountry]

http://www.todayspigskin.com/pigskin-news/no-obvious-evidence-overturn-fumble-eagles-lions-game/
No obvious evidence to overturn fumble in Eagles-Lions game.
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