Game 7: Redskins @ Lions Thread

[dubbsco]

Fine. 11-5. You were off by four games.

Weren't even close. You see what we mean by getting in the last word and never owning up to ANYTHING? That's why conversations with you have no ending. Who gives a flying F about game tape evidence and all this bull? You were wrong. Period.

 

[LKP]

Based on the game tape evidence, the lions can be considered a 10 win team. Not way off. And again 10-5 in last 15 games which proves me right about this team and coaching staff

Last 9 games are pivotal

 

[byco42]

Actually. LKP said 12-4. For 2015.

 

[dubbsco]

Eh, not worth my time anymore on this thread. Another point of human decency is knowing that when no end is in sight it's just best to leave it be.

Enjoy fellas!

 

[tbone413]

I didnt say 13-3. 11 Also there is game tape evidence where you could argue they won 10 games. I gave reasons for losses. Refs can be a reason for a loss. Injuries if way too many can be too. I wasnt way off is the point. 7 to 11 wins is razor thin difference in the nfl.

Now they are 4-3 and in great shape for a strong finish

11-5 2014. 10-5 in last 15 games. I dont have anything to concede

It doesn't matter how badly you or anyone else thinks the lions got screwed, or how unlucky they might have been with injuries. The fact of the matter is they went 7-9 last season. That is a FACT. The only reason needed for those 9 losses is the other team scored more points than the Lions. Thats it. Nothing else matters. This is literally the easiest thing for you to concede, and the fact that you are still trying to justify your prediction/twist the facts is slightly infuriating, considering I just stuck up for you.

LKP please, do yourself a favor and learn how to either hold your tongue, or say the phrase "I was wrong" I promise you wont self combust, and others will respect you A LOT more.

 

[LKP]

Game tape evidence is a fact 10. The game tape showed they were screwed from wins which proves me right. As does 2014..as does the last 15 games

1-7 start. You guys can have that. 11-5 2014 and 10-5 in last 15. 2-1 me

 

[mhughes0021]

I would like to see if hughes and the other few posters agree with this.

Im fine with arguing with LKP. Im sure the other posters hate it. But i guess i dont really understand that....thats technically what a board is for. Im sure a lot of people are getting sick of Tony calling us all f'n retards.....but thats tony and its been a half decade.....we should accept it by now or find a new board. If i hated arguing with the people on here i just wouldnt come on here anymore. If i couldnt stand reading someones posts i guess technically you could block them. I just wouldnt ever do that cause again....imo whats the point of having a board then?

Now LKP....you can say "i present the facts" all you want. But again...its been half a decade so by now most of us have a full understanding that your "facts" only happen like 5% of the time lol. Statistically im sure theres someway you can factual prove that Sea is #1 in defense. That still doesnt discredit my point that they LOST a TON of talent on that side of the ball the last 3 years, they lost the talent so they could pay for Wilson, and they arent as good of a defense as they were back then.

Ive dabbled in alot of the different boards on here. I enjoy the lions board the most because of all the different takes and opinions. If i wanted a bunch of fact based WAR stats and stupid shit like that id go to the tigers board

 

[brewer229]

Just block him if you get sick of hearing the same thing. It's fine. We know his shtick.

Bad calls only happen one way.
Bad bounces only happen one way.
Misssed field goals only hurt the lions.
Kicks of 50 yards are miracles
Game tape
Depending on the topic the run game is either good or bad
Oline is good or bad
No other QB has bad luck
You can only adjust down for Stafford on INTs, not other QBs.

Funny thing is if you actually post game tape or actually post pictures he just ignores them and pretends it doesn't exist.

He hates facts, he likes to skew things and consider his opinion a fact. Simply saying opinion instead of fact would make him less of a homer. Facts are facts, that's it.

Facts are he's been rated in the middle or worse for almost his entire career.

 

[mhughes0021]

That is not what happens. We have discussions. I post facts for everything. I counterpoint. Why would i concede when its an open discussion and i have plenty of evidence to support my thoughts. There is zero reason to get rid fo someone posting factual evidence about the lions. None

And i noticed you cut out the positive parts about me. Knowledgable and polite. That is all that matters.

Counterpoints are fine....

calling them all facts is something else...

Repeating the counterpoint 50 times in a single thread is something entirely different....and i think thats what KC is getting at. I dont complain about you i think ever.....i disagree with you alot. But i dont complain about your posts like others do. But if i had to nitpick one thing i think you and if i look myself in the mirror i probably do too much is repeat your point way too often.

 

[LKP]

My stats and take on the team happen all the time. 2014. 10-5 in last 15. You are the one that your doom and gloom happens 5 percent of the time. The last 2.5 of 3 years the lions have been a good team

 

[kalinecountry]

I have read all each of you have stated.
lkp you aren't right as often as you think, and the few guys who keep posting to him on his showing how the players team got screwed over and over need to pull back.
I am unable to make everyone pleased with this, so when it gets over the top by anyone, they will miss a little time.

 

[byco42]

My stats and take on the team happen all the time. 2014. 10-5 in last 15. You are the one that your doom and gloom happens 5 percent of the time. The last 2.5 of 3 years the lions have been a good team

They need to do better than that. They need to win a Super Bowl. And then another four to six after that in the next 10 seasons.

Here's a stat: ONE PLAYOFF WIN SINCE 1958.

 

[LKP]

And i give facts about specific plays all the time. I tell you what the ref errors were with examples. I check for ref errors that benefit the lions as well. I have yet to see someone post a major ref error that benefited the lions with specific examples on the call and game situation

 

[LKP]

22-17 in the caldwell era. This is a good football team and staff.

I repost my facts to counter many opinions. Many of my facts counter the same lions are garbage team opinions. I am one person, there are mutliple people with lions are garbage opinions so you get many of the same facts.

And circumstances change on things. For instance run game. When i am talking about a good run game, i am talking second half 2015 abdullah and first 2. But then abdullah gets hurt and things change and the run support can lack for stafford which makes him even more impressive in the last 15 games

 

[brewer229]

Facts are run game and passing success often have little to do with each other. Good QB play is primarily from the QB being good.

Every team has injuries, change over, adjustments. Good teams and players deal with it.

Being good two half of seasons over two different years means nothing. No playoffs last year. If season ended today no playoffs.

Facts.

 

[LKP]

Good qbs need weapons and protection too..he finally has reliable weapons besides calvin. And the protection much better under cooter and even better in 2016 with more talent and cooter.

Stafford is playing great. And run game is key for manageable down and distance. This helps the oline which helps the qb

And win loss is more than just qb. Defense, protection, weapons, turnovers play huge roles too

 

[mhughes0021]

Facts are run game and passing success often have little to do with each other. Good QB play is primarily from the QB being good.

Every team has injuries, change over, adjustments. Good teams and players deal with it.

Being good two half of seasons over two different years means nothing. No playoffs last year. If season ended today no playoffs.

Facts.

Brewer, come on man....we've had atleast 1 complete game where we played well on both sides of the ball every year for the last 16 years. You mean were not allowed to add all 16 of those games up and declare were super bowl champions? wtf....

 

[LKP]

Stafford was good 2011 and first 9 in 2013 too. It i more han just two half seasons

 

[sggatecl]

And we are sickeningly close to a 6-1 start where you would be apologizing to me

That's the difference between you and most of this board. Myself and many others would be like "Damn, LKP got it right!" or "I'll take my crow crispy please!" You would never do it. You'll just make excuses, scenarios, and continue on with your schtick. It's old but if it makes you happy, keep it up.

We want you to be right. If you were right, this team would be a dynasty. Instead, we're still waiting for a single playoff win.

 

[LKP]

Why would i when they went 10-5 in thr last 15. I am right. Lets see how thr next 9 plus play out. Probable for 6-3 or better