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Game 7: Redskins @ Lions Thread
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mhughes0021
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it was touched...barely. ANy RB with decent hands holds onto the ball. I guarantee you washington puts that fumble on Jones.
But it was still forced. Lions did good, jones did bad. You dont discredit the lions. Every turnover someone on other team typically makes a big mistake. No reasom to diacredit lions. They are making plays and taking advantage. Earnes fumble and earned win. It wasnt a gifted win from washington. Lions earned it and outplayed washington
Honestly dude, this forum and discussion would be just worlds better if you ever owned up to anything. Anything.
Matt Jones put those balls on the turf, and the Lions players basically did nothing to force them.
No one is saying the win was gifted. You really need to stop taking minor points and just blowing them up. But if you stopped seeing things through your horribly blue kool aid googles and actually watched, we'd have wonderful conversations. As it is, you really take away from meaningful conversation.
Matt Jones put those balls on the turf, and the Lions players basically did nothing to force them.
No one is saying the win was gifted. You really need to stop taking minor points and just blowing them up. But if you stopped seeing things through your horribly blue kool aid googles and actually watched, we'd have wonderful conversations. As it is, you really take away from meaningful conversation.
mhughes0021
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no wai dude. armbrister is the best ever. he touch matt jones and his arm exploded forcing him to not be able to carry anything. Pro Bowl Armbrister 2016. His new name should be armexploder!
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If one poster wasn't as much of a homer Lions fan as he is, and a few others were not willing to argue every homer post he made which all leads to some more of the same with that, and a little bit of baiting and sarcasm which leads to more of the former, this Lions forum would in fact be better.
Less super homerism and a little less negativity helps.
You guys imo have tried to do what I personally have asked for, to keep peace, but after a couple of days, it seems to slip back to all this which begins a blame game.
Even another mod asked to stop what was being called haters.
I am beginning to get close to my wits end....and I really do not want 'anyone' to miss posting, it makes posters angry for being given time off and other posters not involved to take stances on either side of the time away, what amounts to much of the time as childish behaviour, upset at those involved as well as the mods/Admin giving out the time off.
At different times in different games the Lions players on offense, defense, and special teams have played good/great and other times bad to mediocre. Most everyone can and has seen that.
Defending a player who had a less than stellar game isn't right, as well as not giving a player who did play well less credit than he deserved.
It is up to all of you involved here to decide what is best for your continued interest on the Lions forum in regards to all of this.
Less super homerism and a little less negativity helps.
You guys imo have tried to do what I personally have asked for, to keep peace, but after a couple of days, it seems to slip back to all this which begins a blame game.
Even another mod asked to stop what was being called haters.
I am beginning to get close to my wits end....and I really do not want 'anyone' to miss posting, it makes posters angry for being given time off and other posters not involved to take stances on either side of the time away, what amounts to much of the time as childish behaviour, upset at those involved as well as the mods/Admin giving out the time off.
At different times in different games the Lions players on offense, defense, and special teams have played good/great and other times bad to mediocre. Most everyone can and has seen that.
Defending a player who had a less than stellar game isn't right, as well as not giving a player who did play well less credit than he deserved.
It is up to all of you involved here to decide what is best for your continued interest on the Lions forum in regards to all of this.
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Copleand got credit for a forced fumble. The game tape shows him punch it out. I dont need to concede anything. Jones didnt just fumble for no reason which is the point you are trying to make. The stats and game tape say my observation is correct
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Fine. You are right. It was all forced.
This forum's just not worth it anymore as long as you are here. You waste what I think is a great deal of football smarts by being a "counter balance" to the more rational/pessimistic posters.
See, with people like me who were the self-proclaimed Stafford-haters, I was willing to accept that he's finally turned the corner and looks like a really good NFL QB. I have that self-awareness. The fact that you don't really ruins the entire flow of any conversations.
This forum's just not worth it anymore as long as you are here. You waste what I think is a great deal of football smarts by being a "counter balance" to the more rational/pessimistic posters.
See, with people like me who were the self-proclaimed Stafford-haters, I was willing to accept that he's finally turned the corner and looks like a really good NFL QB. I have that self-awareness. The fact that you don't really ruins the entire flow of any conversations.
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I would like to see if hughes and the other few posters agree with this.
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I am posting factual information based on stats and game tape. I am the rational one here.
I have always called him a good qb. I was proven right
Its not that you post negative opinions. Although many do with no support which is actually trolling but many here are so warped that they think what they say is the truth. Even though the game tape, stata and specific examples i show prove what they say wrong
Its they dont have anything backing them up. Saying that jones hust dropped the ball is a flat out lie. I dont care that it is negative. I care that it is not factually correct
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Another example. Hughes saying seattle d got worse. Then i point out that they are number 1 in league in least points allowed. A simple fact check by him should have been done before he posted his opinion. But he didnt. So i posted the facts
He had an opinion. I disagreed and gave a perfect example why he was wrong
He had an opinion. I disagreed and gave a perfect example why he was wrong
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I'm not a super frequent poster on here, but I read most days...I personally think LKP has the potential to be a very good poster on this board. I can tell he is quite knowledgeable about the Lions and the NFL in general, and obviously he loves his team.
I also visit several other sports message boards, and I can honestly say that I've never come across someone who was hated/repeatedly banned for being overly 'homerish' towards their team. But, at the same time, I've never seen anyone close to the level of LKP on other boards either.
I'm of the mindset that as long as you aren't personally attacking anyone else, spamming, or trolling opposing fan bases, you shouldn't be banned from a message board. LKP doesn't do any of these things. He actually is one of the more polite users on here - has very thick skin and rarely (if ever) gets into a pissing match with other posters, regardless of how many names they call him.
That being said, I can understand why people (including myself at times) get frustrated with him. I've never seen him concede a point, or 'let bygones be bygones' he seems to always need the last word and refuses to change his mind on any subject. Add to the fact that he posts on basically every single thread on the Lions/NFL forum, and its extremely hard to ignore him.
I wish that LKP could reign it in a bit, because like I said, I think he is knowledgeable, and makes some good points. But I also don't want to see other good posters whom I enjoy reading/discussing things with leave this site because of him. I wish there was a middle ground, but apparently that is not possible...so I support whatever the Mods think is best. Its a very hard/ often thankless job, and I respect all of you guys for doing it....seriously.
I also visit several other sports message boards, and I can honestly say that I've never come across someone who was hated/repeatedly banned for being overly 'homerish' towards their team. But, at the same time, I've never seen anyone close to the level of LKP on other boards either.
I'm of the mindset that as long as you aren't personally attacking anyone else, spamming, or trolling opposing fan bases, you shouldn't be banned from a message board. LKP doesn't do any of these things. He actually is one of the more polite users on here - has very thick skin and rarely (if ever) gets into a pissing match with other posters, regardless of how many names they call him.
That being said, I can understand why people (including myself at times) get frustrated with him. I've never seen him concede a point, or 'let bygones be bygones' he seems to always need the last word and refuses to change his mind on any subject. Add to the fact that he posts on basically every single thread on the Lions/NFL forum, and its extremely hard to ignore him.
I wish that LKP could reign it in a bit, because like I said, I think he is knowledgeable, and makes some good points. But I also don't want to see other good posters whom I enjoy reading/discussing things with leave this site because of him. I wish there was a middle ground, but apparently that is not possible...so I support whatever the Mods think is best. Its a very hard/ often thankless job, and I respect all of you guys for doing it....seriously.
This is not helpful at all and quite frankly you are trolling
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Tbone, this quote from you is exactly everything that needs to be said:
"That being said, I can understand why people (including myself at times) get frustrated with him. I've never seen him concede a point, or 'let bygones be bygones' he seems to always need the last word and refuses to change his mind on any subject. Add to the fact that he posts on basically every single thread on the Lions/NFL forum, and its extremely hard to ignore him."
Perfect. If you've met people in real life who refuse to concede any point, there's a reason we aren't friends with them/think poorly of them. There's human decency to conversation that involves being humble when right, and owning up to being wrong. And I just can't believe this is how he is in real, human conversation. I can't.
It's hard to have discussions with people on here who talk in full, complete, thought out sentences when you constantly have someone stepping in the middle with 9 posts in a row and essentially putting their hands over their ears and stomping around until the thread dies.
"That being said, I can understand why people (including myself at times) get frustrated with him. I've never seen him concede a point, or 'let bygones be bygones' he seems to always need the last word and refuses to change his mind on any subject. Add to the fact that he posts on basically every single thread on the Lions/NFL forum, and its extremely hard to ignore him."
Perfect. If you've met people in real life who refuse to concede any point, there's a reason we aren't friends with them/think poorly of them. There's human decency to conversation that involves being humble when right, and owning up to being wrong. And I just can't believe this is how he is in real, human conversation. I can't.
It's hard to have discussions with people on here who talk in full, complete, thought out sentences when you constantly have someone stepping in the middle with 9 posts in a row and essentially putting their hands over their ears and stomping around until the thread dies.
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That is not what happens. We have discussions. I post facts for everything. I counterpoint. Why would i concede when its an open discussion and i have plenty of evidence to support my thoughts. There is zero reason to get rid fo someone posting factual evidence about the lions. None
And i noticed you cut out the positive parts about me. Knowledgable and polite. That is all that matters.
And i noticed you cut out the positive parts about me. Knowledgable and polite. That is all that matters.
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Here's why you'd concede:
Last year you said before the season, the Lions would go 13-3. They went 7-9.
You made a prediction. It was off by 6 games. IF you owned up to it and said, "Yeah, I was way off, I missed my prediction", we'd have a TON more respect for you.
Instead, there's a lot of stammering and yapping about why you were actually right in some weird convoluted way. That's why we get annoyed by your conduct on these boards. It's hard to have discussions with people that don't live in the real world.
Last year you said before the season, the Lions would go 13-3. They went 7-9.
You made a prediction. It was off by 6 games. IF you owned up to it and said, "Yeah, I was way off, I missed my prediction", we'd have a TON more respect for you.
Instead, there's a lot of stammering and yapping about why you were actually right in some weird convoluted way. That's why we get annoyed by your conduct on these boards. It's hard to have discussions with people that don't live in the real world.
I didnt say 13-3. 11 Also there is game tape evidence where you could argue they won 10 games. I gave reasons for losses. Refs can be a reason for a loss. Injuries if way too many can be too. I wasnt way off is the point. 7 to 11 wins is razor thin difference in the nfl.
Now they are 4-3 and in great shape for a strong finish
11-5 2014. 10-5 in last 15 games. I dont have anything to concede. The team is playing really well but this board only remembers the five losses and forgets the 10 wins. And we are sickeningly close to a 6-1 start where you would be apologizing to me
Now they are 4-3 and in great shape for a strong finish
11-5 2014. 10-5 in last 15 games. I dont have anything to concede. The team is playing really well but this board only remembers the five losses and forgets the 10 wins. And we are sickeningly close to a 6-1 start where you would be apologizing to me
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