Game 8: Lions @ Texans Thread

[tonyballs]

Wasn't Washington a healthy scratch last week?

I just seen that he was lol. Makes no sense whatsoever. Washington beat him out in preseason. Why is Zenner better?? Forsett doesn't even get used enough. Zenner brings nothing to the table IMO. This team is so fucked lol. I give up....

 

[kalinecountry]

With 133 scrimmage yards, Riddick became the first Lions running back to reach 130-plus yards from scrimmage since Joique Bell in 2014 (133 vs. Tampa Bay).

Riddick now has 11 career touchdown receptions, becoming just the fourth Lions running back in team history to record that many. He moved past Mel Farr (10, 1967-73), James Jones (10, 1983-88) and Barry Sanders (10, 1989-98) in the process.

That's now 11 touchdown passes in 50 career games, and his four receiving touchdowns this season tie a career high set in 2014.

Riddick is currently tied for second in the NFL among running backs with 34 receptions on the year, and he missed two games due to injury. Only David Johnson (35) has more.

Other key stats – good and bad – after eight weeks of football:

Since the beginning of the 2015 season, Stafford has completed 60-plus percent of his passes in 23 of 24 games played, which leads all passers in the NFL.

The Lions have lost just one fumble this season. Every other team in the league has at least two. San Diego has lost 11.

Detroit ranks 27th in the NFL rushing the football at 85.5 yards per contest. The league average is 107.9.

The Lions are averaging 13.4 yards per punt return, which is sixth best in the NFL. This week’s opponent, Minnesota, ranks second at 15.3 yards per punt, and is the only team with two punt return touchdowns on the year.

WR Golden Tate has seven catches this year on 3rd and 8 or longer. That’s the sixth most in the league.

So far in 2016, Stafford has compiled a passer rating of 103.4, which is the highest passer rating by a Lions quarterback through the first eight games of a season.

LB Tahir Whitehead has been burnt in coverage 36 times this season, according to STATS, INC., which leads the NFL. CB Quandre Diggs is 11th with 24.

Detroit’s defense is last on third down. Opposing offenses are converting at a 50 percent clip on the year.

The Lions are one of just four NFL teams with more than 1,000 yards after the catch: Falcons (1,126), Patriots (1,089), Giants (1,071) and Lions (1,055).

Detroit’s offense has started just one drive in opponent territory through eight games. The average around the league is eight drives starting on the opponent’s side of the 50-yard line.

The Lions have one of the worst pass defenses in the NFL. They've allowed 19 touchdowns, have just four interceptions and opposing quarterbacks have a league-high 113.7 passer rating against the Lions this year, and an NFL-worst 73.6 completion percentage to opponents.

Lions.com

 

[kalinecountry]

http://www.prideofdetroit.com/2016/...aldwell-challenge-deandre-hopkins-catch-rules
Breaking down the call: Would Jim Caldwell have won a challenge on the DeAndre Hopkins catch?
Knowing what we know now, should Caldwell have challenged the catch?
PrideOfDetroit

 

[tonyballs]

Nice stats, KC! Thanks!

Looking at those stats.....no running game and our defense is a joke. Heavy defensive draft coming up! And AA needs to step the hell up soon or we may be looking for a replacement.

 

[brewer229]

You're either a complete fucking moron or you're the most stubborn guy on the planet lol. I really don't know, but i do know one thing. You don't get it. Which is fine. You're convinced that defenses are solely based on formations and look at a player like Zenner and Barry Sanders and defend them the SAME WAY .....lmfao. Ok..im done. You're clueless.
I did actually watch the game yesterday and you're right. The Vikings were not stacking the box on Howard. Then Howard gashed them and the Vikings were trying to stop the run. That made Cutler's job a whole hell of a lot easier during the game because they had the Bears on their heels all night. FOOTBALL 101.
That's my point about the Lions offense too. No defenses care about the running game we have because it doesn't exist and Stafford an co are usually getting the job done. If we only had a running back that could actually run the ball, this offense would be unstoppable.

It's like you only read selct words and make other people's post try and say the opposite.

I said defenses have MORE TO DO with formations than who is in the backfield. You read it as defenses ONLY worry about formations. Not even close to what I said.

I used a example as a 4 wide set, that it didn't matter who was in the backfield You aren't facing 8 in the box. You took it as Zenner and Sanders are always looked at as the same.

Then you completely ignored the fact I mentioned better players at any position help the team. But the most important factor is the player themselves.

At no point were you responding to any of my points. You were only pick out names and how ever you wanted to spin it, simply so you could insult me.

Bravo dude.

 

[kalinecountry]

Nice stats, KC! Thanks!

Looking at those stats.....no running game and our defense is a joke. Heavy defensive draft coming up! And AA needs to step the hell up soon or we may be looking for a replacement.

You're welcome Tony.

Besides injuries, something is lacking on D. Maybe these guys ran out of steam at the end, because they shut the run game down for most of the game.
Maybe Ansah isn't 100% but better than who was out there, idk just a guess.
Linebacker is a serious issue.
This wasn't going to be fixed in one draft or 1 season.

 

[tonyballs]

It's like you only read selct words and make other people's post try and say the opposite.

I said defenses have MORE TO DO with formations than who is in the backfield. You read it as defenses ONLY worry about formations. Not even close to what I said.

I used a example as a 4 wide set, that it didn't matter who was in the backfield You aren't facing 8 in the box. You took it as Zenner and Sanders are always looked at as the same.

Then you completely ignored the fact I mentioned better players at any position help the team. But the most important factor is the player themselves.

At no point were you responding to any of my points. You were only pick out names and how ever you wanted to spin it, simply so you could insult me.

Bravo dude.

Lmao. You're an idiot. I never picked and chose. Choose your words carefully then, buddy lol. I responded to everything you wrote.

You said it didn't matter who was in the backfield. Then you lumped in a scrub with arguably the best RB in the world and said the defense would stay the same lol. That's a joke of a statement. YOU said it! Not me.

Better players help the team??? Why even should i respond to that? Lol. Of course that's true. Want a medal for pointing out the obvious? Lol

And what you say is insulting. You're clueless. You jumble up a bunch of numbers and percentages and try to make yourself look smart. It's comical. Sorry if you're confused on what i mean but what i say is reality. I have given you so many examples it's sickening. Here's another one.......pay the fuck attention btw....

Look at the Dallas Cowboys. Probably the best running game in the business. Agreed? Do you think having Elliott is helping out Prescott? Does having Elliott help that offense? Would that offense and Dak have the same success with Morris as their RB??? It's kibd of a loaded question becausecit is the best OLine in football but the answers are obvious. That's my gripe with the Lions. They have nobody running the ball. NOBODY. I'm not saying Stafford has it the toughest but if you even look at all the dog shit teams around the league like the Browns (Crowell), 49ers (Hyde)...they have decent RBs. We have Zenner lol. Its a fucking joke.

 

[brewer229]

Dallas has top running back on 2014, 2015 mcfadden was #4 and essentially only played 10 games. And now their 3rd running back in 3 years is leading the league.

Sort of helps the point the RB name doesn't matter as much.

When you're playing well everyone helps everyone. Lions do their RBs no favors by not being able to throw the ball down the field. Gives defense smaller area to defend closer to the line.

Lions main issue is Defense anyways. Running game or not we won't be good, being that inefficient on defense.

 

[brewer229]

Oh and using stats isn't to try and look smart it's to back up points. Otherwise it's just wild ads opinions.

You can choose to ignore it because it doesn't agree with your archaic way of thinking. But top teams & QBs often don't have elite or even above average running games.

 

[mhughes0021]

get a stud oline and any scrub 7th rd pick can run for 1k yards. Zenner could run for 1k in dallas and Zenner is fucking awful.

 

[Mitchrapp]

get a stud oline and any scrub 7th rd pick can run for 1k yards. Zenner could run for 1k in dallas and Zenner is fucking awful.

Or like Denver used to have for years.. Remember Olandis Gary? Lol.

 

[brewer229]

get a stud oline and any scrub 7th rd pick can run for 1k yards. Zenner could run for 1k in dallas and Zenner is fucking awful.

Few more 1st round picks on the oline should solve that. Yep, can't see any way that fails.

 

[Mitchrapp]

If we draft more high pick OL.. the Lions should just give up.

 

[tonyballs]

Dallas has top running back on 2014, 2015 mcfadden was #4 and essentially only played 10 games. And now their 3rd running back in 3 years is leading the league.

Sort of helps the point the RB name doesn't matter as much.

When you're playing well everyone helps everyone. Lions do their RBs no favors by not being able to throw the ball down the field. Gives defense smaller area to defend closer to the line.

Lions main issue is Defense anyways. Running game or not we won't be good, being that inefficient on defense.

So now it's back to Stafford or Cooter? Is that what you're saying?? Lol. I don't want to put words in your mouth, but it sounds to me like you're saying our running game sucks because of the way the offense is run. Poor poor RBs can't run for shit because the defenders are closer to the line....lmao. What a crock of shit!! Get a RB in there and the field opens up. End of story.

They need to go extremely heavy on defense in the draft next year. That's a given.

 

[LKP]

Abdullah did well. 2015 second half and first two this year. Riddick is inconsistent. Zenner is slow. Forsett mich slower than he was. Lets see what washington has hopefully this week over zenner

Hopefully abdullah plays all 16 next year or many of them. Wouldnt hurt to add one more back unless washington breaks out