Goodbye schwartz

[sggatecl]

Because the blame should be on the context of what actually happened during the plays. If its a receivers rbs or defense fault, then they get the blame too

This is the problem right now on this board. If someone says Stafford had a bad year or that he sucked, there is a small group of people that do their best condom imitation to protect Stafford by blaming anything else they possibly can.

Look, the vast majority of us don't think Stafford ruined this season on his own. In fact, I'm pretty sure nobody has said that. Everyone knows there were drops and that the defense didn't force a lot of turnovers. The problem is people want to portray Stafford as elite or "almost elite" and he showed no signs of being able to carry this team through a tough stretch.

The fact of the matter is that RIGHT NOW, he's an average QB that has the potential to be above average at times and the inconsistency/lack of discipline to be below average at times. That's not the description of a franchise QB.

 

[kmd47]

Jim and his staff get the most blame but Matt is firmly I the second slot..
How hard is it for MS supporters to understand that the DAMN QB HAS THE MOST IMPACT ON IF HIS TEAM WINS OR LOSES...

You guys can blame drops or fumbles bad calls all you want but if you could take away just some of Matt's poor INT's the Lions are in the playoffs..

You've said some of the most ignorant shit I've ever heard on this thread. So what would you have us do with shitty Matt Stafford. Cut him, eat the rest of his contract, and draft a qb in the first round? Genius.

 

[tonyballs]

Why?

Because football is a team sport and so much shit happens during the course of the season i think its fn retarded to point fingers at one individual. Thats why ...

 

[biggunsbob]

You've said some of the most ignorant shit I've ever heard on this thread. So what would you have us do with shitty Matt Stafford. Cut him, eat the rest of his contract, and draft a qb in the first round? Genius.

Looks like we are stuck with his 75+ million and zero playoff wins and only one winning season.. Looks like we will have to bank on the next coaching staff getting happy feet INT boy over the hump..
I am so tired of you MS slappies giving him a pass..

Glad MS has all those yards... Keep on leading and chucking it up between the 20's and that great 29/19 TD/INT rate and yet it is not Matt's fault he throws behind guys or throws to soon or to late and that it is all on his receivers who drop passes.. We all know it is the other players fault not Matt's....He gets a pass...LOL

It is so great that he makes other players better other then CJ...

Hopefully that next staff will help him because the last staff was clueless and
coddled is ass....

 

[biggunsbob]

BTW ever damn one of us has blamed other people thenMatt for the Lions not making the playoffs but if anyone does not see that Matt has a hellavua a lot a problems then that is your problem not mine..

 

[tonyballs]

Jim and his staff get the most blame but Matt is firmly I the second slot..
How hard is it for MS supporters to understand that the DAMN QB HAS THE MOST IMPACT ON IF HIS TEAM WINS OR LOSES...

You guys can blame drops or fumbles bad calls all you want but if you could take away just some of Matt's poor INT's the Lions are in the playoffs..

Same thing can be said about fumbles, drops or whatever. Bell doesnt fumble twice in the Philly game maybe we make the playoffs. Maybe if the referee doesnt miss a blatant PI call and we get the ball at the 1 and score, we make the playoffs. Or maybe if Chris Houston doesnt get burnt on the regular, we make the playoffs.

Sounds stupid, right? Too many factors on why this season sunk ...nobody is a close second in my eyes

 

[kmd47]

I clearly have said Stafford did shitty this season. But like Tony is saying there are many other factors on why we lost games. You CANNOT put it all on the QB no matter how bad he played. Give the kid a chance with a different OC other than vanilla Scott Linehan.... I hated that dudes scheme and play calls.

 

[tonyballs]

Looks like we are stuck with his 75+ million and zero playoff wins and only one winning season.. Looks like we will have to bank on the next coaching staff getting happy feet INT boy over the hump..
I am so tired of you MS slappies giving him a pass..

Glad MS has all those yards... Keep on leading and chucking it up between the 20's and that great 29/19 TD/INT rate and yet it is not Matt's fault he throws behind guys or throws to soon or to late and that it is all on his receivers who drop passes.. We all know it is the other players fault not Matt's....He gets a pass...LOL

It is so great that he makes other players better other then CJ...

Hopefully that next staff will help him because the last staff was clueless and
coddled is ass....

You're a fn beaut!! lol. Nobody is saying Stafford is God. Nobody is giving him a free pass and nobody is saying Stafford doesnt have a hand in this meltdown. Get a grip ...

 

[biggunsbob]

Same thing can be said about fumbles, drops or whatever. Bell doesnt fumble twice in the Philly game maybe we make the playoffs. Maybe if the referee doesnt miss a blatant PI call and we get the ball at the 1 and score, we make the playoffs. Or maybe if Chris Houston doesnt get burnt on the regular, we make the playoffs.

Sounds stupid, right? Too many factors on why this season sunk ...nobody is a close second in my eyes

I just disagree..Matt is solidly the second reason after his idiot coaches just because
Matt touches the ball on every offensive play...
If he wants to take the next step he has to get way better...

 

[kmd47]

I just disagree..Matt is solidly the second reason after his idiot coaches just because
Matt touches the ball on every offensive play...
If he wants to take the next step he has to get way better...

This is like saying he is standing out there by himself and none of the other players have any hand in it. He snaps himself the ball, throws it to himself while simultaneously blocking the D-line, runs and catches it. Could have sworn football was a team sport.....

 

[tonyballs]

I just disagree..Matt is solidly the second reason after his idiot coaches just because
Matt touches the ball on every offensive play...
If he wants to take the next step he has to get way better...

Oh because Stafford touches the ball on every snap. Thats fn genius bro . Did you come up with that one all by yourself? How do i follow that? lmao

 

[biggunsbob]

Oh because Stafford touches the ball on every snap. Thats fn genius bro . Did you come up with that one all by yourself? How do i follow that? lmao

Is Matt making anyone better around him right now?
Answer me this Tony?

Or does CJ make Stafford better?

 

[biggunsbob]

Tony why did Matt looked lost the last 7 games?

 

[biggunsbob]

Just a Gunslinger right Tony... Don't stop him from throwing into triple coverage sidearm
again off his back foot
LOL...

 

[tonyballs]

Is Matt making anyone better around him right now?
Answer me this Tony?

Or does CJ make Stafford better?

He makes Kris Durham better than he's ever looked. I'll even say Fauria too.

CJ makes the world better

 

[tonyballs]

Tony why did Matt looked lost the last 7 games?

How the fuck am i supposed to know?? He got figured out? His weapons suck? He doesnt care? His girlfriend is fucking Fauria? Dude, i dont know but he needs to figure it out soon.

 

[tonyballs]

Just a Gunslinger right Tony... Don't stop him from throwing into triple coverage sidearm
again off his back foot
LOL...

He's a risk taker and he's always trying to make a play. It hurts him at times bit then two plays later youre shaking your head because of the awesome throw he mad between 3 defenders.

Dont like his style bro? Go become an Alex Smith fan ....a lot easier on the ticker

 

[biggunsbob]

He makes Kris Durham better than he's ever looked. I'll even say Fauria too.

CJ makes the world better

So just two players... Just fantastic..


Hopefully the next staff can get Matt to be a leader of he WHOLE team and not just two
players because something was off with Matt this year..

 

[biggunsbob]

He's a risk taker and he's always trying to make a play. It hurts him at times bit then two plays later youre shaking your head because of the awesome throw he mad between 3 defenders.

Dont like his style bro? Go become an Alex Smith fan ....a lot easier on the ticker

If he learns to take mustard off throws he may not over throw guys so much..
One Pick six was even over the 6"8 Tight end's head..
Hopefully the new staff will fix him or the Lions will never win with him being like
way he is Tony...

 

[tonyballs]

So just two players... Just fantastic..


Hopefully the next staff can get Matt to be a leader of he WHOLE team and not just two
players because something was off with Matt this year..

Are you fn kidding me? lmao. Just two players? What are you looking for? I'll play your fucked up games ok?

Reggie Bush ....2nd 1000+ yards on the ground, Calvin Johnson...... helping the beast shatter records weekly, OLine .........least sacked QB in the league i think, Staffords lightning quick delivery lol