Greatest Leftfielder of All Time

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I just feel like it's completely unfair to assume a guy wouldn't have been as fast, strong etc because he was born 40 years prior. Humans have developed since then but you can't just assume Ricky Henderson wouldn't have been as fast back then. That seems dumb to me. Maybe I'm alone.

Humans have not developed.

Equipment, training, nutrition, and supplements have.

We are the same now as we were in the 1930's, and as we were in the 1300's.

Technology has evolved, mankind has not.

If Ricky Henderson played back then he would suffer the same penalties as any player from that Era when you compare them to a modern player.

And I agree with Mitch, he would have been slower because of it.

 

[Rebbiv]

The pitchers of today are much better than they were back then. DiMaggio wasn't facing 2 or 3 different pitchers in a game. He usually got to see the same guy 4 times in a game which is a huge benifit to the batter. Plus....all streaks have a lot of luck that go into them.

As far as your shoe argument....pretty lame.

If you want to call it lame then fine, but put up or shut up, explain how it's lame.

Do you disagree about modern equipment giving an athlete an edge over one with inferior stuff?

And I'd be interested to see some data (since you toss it out there like it's a fact) that DiMaggio only faced the starting pitcher during his streak and did not see relievers, which would mean starters were able to work complete game more, which would contradict your theory about modern athletes being superior.

So let's see the data, otherwise your argument is pretty lame.

http://www.baseball-almanac.com/feats/feats3.shtml

By my count, 17 relievers in 56 games.

 

[Mitchrapp]

That seems like a lot, right?

 

[tomdalton22]

I just feel like it's completely unfair to assume a guy wouldn't have been as fast, strong etc because he was born 40 years prior. Humans have developed since then but you can't just assume Ricky Henderson wouldn't have been as fast back then. That seems dumb to me. Maybe I'm alone.

Humans have not developed.

Equipment, training, nutrition, and supplements have.

We are the same now as we were in the 1930's, and as we were in the 1300's.

Technology has evolved, mankind has not.

If Ricky Henderson played back then he would suffer the same penalties as any player from that Era when you compare them to a modern player.

And I agree with Mitch, he would have been slower because of it.

Technology has evolved but mankind has not? Look at every other sport. Basketball and football for instance...players are bigger, stronger and faster at ALL levels of competition. That isn't from food or shoes. It is because human beings are evolving.

 

[tycobb420]

As a whole, people today are actually slightly taller, heavier, have better health, and live longer than in the past. Most of this can be attributed to medicine and nutrition.

 

[Rebbiv]

I just feel like it's completely unfair to assume a guy wouldn't have been as fast, strong etc because he was born 40 years prior. Humans have developed since then but you can't just assume Ricky Henderson wouldn't have been as fast back then. That seems dumb to me. Maybe I'm alone.

Humans have not developed.

Equipment, training, nutrition, and supplements have.

We are the same now as we were in the 1930's, and as we were in the 1300's.

Technology has evolved, mankind has not.

If Ricky Henderson played back then he would suffer the same penalties as any player from that Era when you compare them to a modern player.

And I agree with Mitch, he would have been slower because of it.

The average height of a native born US Male / Life expectancy:

1900 = 66.9" / 47.8

1910 = 67.8" / 53.1

1920 = 68.1" / 54.1

1930 = 69.2" / 59.7

1940 = 69.6" / 62.9

1950 = 69.8" / 68.2

1960 = 70.0" / 69.7

 

[tomdalton22]

As a whole, people today are actually slightly taller, heavier, have better health, and live longer than in the past. Most of this can be attributed to medicine and nutrition.

That and the population is significantly larger now. When you have a larger pool of athletes the you are going to get more good / great athletes than back in the day when the pool was much smaller. In 1920 there were about 106 million people in the USA. Now there are about 310 million.

 

[tycobb420]

As a whole, people today are actually slightly taller, heavier, have better health, and live longer than in the past. Most of this can be attributed to medicine and nutrition.

That and the population is significantly larger now. When you have a larger pool of athletes the you are going to get more good / great athletes than back in the day when the pool was much smaller. In 1920 there were about 106 million people in the USA. Now there are about 310 million.

yes, because of modern medicine and availability of food. The last major famine in the west was the 1840s. In medicine, once penicilin and innoculations became widely available, mortality rates plummeted.

 

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As a whole, people today are actually slightly taller, heavier, have better health, and live longer than in the past. Most of this can be attributed to medicine and nutrition.

That's what I was getting at.

We're the same people, just better because of advances made in science.

 

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Humans have not developed.

Equipment, training, nutrition, and supplements have.

We are the same now as we were in the 1930's, and as we were in the 1300's.

Technology has evolved, mankind has not.

If Ricky Henderson played back then he would suffer the same penalties as any player from that Era when you compare them to a modern player.

And I agree with Mitch, he would have been slower because of it.

Technology has evolved but mankind has not? Look at every other sport. Basketball and football for instance...players are bigger, stronger and faster at ALL levels of competition. That isn't from food or shoes. It is because human beings are evolving.

Wrong again Tom.

 

[tomdalton22]

Technology has evolved but mankind has not? Look at every other sport. Basketball and football for instance...players are bigger, stronger and faster at ALL levels of competition. That isn't from food or shoes. It is because human beings are evolving.

Wrong again Tom.

no, you are wrong