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So we are hanging the Mueller probe on catching Jr. in a lie under oath about a meeting in which no real laws have been broken? Collusion by itself is not against the law, no matter how much people would like it to be.
Figuring that catching Jr. might get daddy under oath??? I guess they don't call it a perjury trap for nothing.
Who knows, maybe it might work. Trump's lie on Air Force One was not under oath. Trump gets caught in his lies way more than most politicians, I'll grant you that a thousand times. Just need to read Bob's 200-300 posts on the subject to suspect that, but proving the President actually perjured himself might get a bit dicey.
There was a report that Mueller is examining Trump's tweets - I suspect it was to see if there is anyone else they can browbeat into a perjury trap, then turn them against the president. That is how it works. Maybe there is a way they can recommend that Congress indict/impeach him on an Obstruction of Justice charge for his tweets - but that isn't even an indictment yet, and by itself is not proof of anything.
We may be into his second term before we get him, but, by God, we will impeach this man. Then he will very likely finish out his 2nd term. I imagine it will go to the SCOTUS multiple times before they ever get the President under oath. Hey maybe he will perjure himself ? la Clinton, and then it goes to the Republican controlled Senate to what - remove him? Now were back to dreaming that the investigation isn't tainted enough for 66 Senator's to vote to remove him. :no:
So let me ask you, is there anyone that voted for Trump knowing pretty much the same stuff they knew when he was elected the first time that is changing their vote over this so-called investigation? I'm thinkin' no.
Is there any chance the Democrats will control the Senate after the mid-terms? Probably not unless something far beyond the usual hair-on-fire scandals that have come to light already. Maybe that is why MM and many highly partisan hacks get completely hysterical over any misstep - keep hope alive that one of these "scandals" will catch on and get people to change their vote.
I didn't vote in the last election. I copped out, couldn't bring myself to vote for that other idiot that was running, but I may not cop out this time.
Simple question to ask yourself. There is a sizable majority of folks that vote on this one simple question. Am I personally better off now than I was before he was elected? Many uneducated deplorables may have a different answer than y'all liberals.
It does matter. We will see . It is just not as easy as am I better off now then before.. I sure wish I had a lot of money because I would be better off now. But then you know the stock market went from 7k to 19K Under Obama even under constant filibuster from the GOP. So rich make rich even under Democrats lol. Yeah sorry I am not better off, and even if I was I would not vote for this clown in office who has made America a laughing stock.
Yeah it matters when a president Lies all the fucking time. It matters when he calls out all media except Fox news. It matters when zillionaires like the Koch brothers hand pick supreme court justices. It matters that his administration does not give two shits about the Education, environment, or anybody's rights. Fuck Trump and the GOP for letting Putin walk all over America. I cannot help it if you cannot see it.
But guess what we will see this November in a off year election if the left has finally woke and if all the votes are counted. Well That is if Democrats can beat Russian vote purging and The Great GOP Gerrymandering machine which is even worse..
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