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[dubbsco]

Well at least you are trying. Can't fault you for that.

 

[mhughes0021]

I couldn't use the most pessimistic poster as an example, as even their preseason projections would be considered optimistic at this point.

Ill go out on a limb and assume that I was the most pessimistic poster....although I still claim to be the most realistic.

So ya....I thought 9 wins was the floor for this team prior to the year beginning. 10 wins and a playoff loss was my realistic goal. 10 wins and 1 playoff win was going to exceeed expectations. I don't know why they hell I thought this way but I truly thought Stafford was going to have a monster year. But then reality hit and hes his same top 25 self. Actually degressing from his top 22 self last year thru 2 games. The guy just doesn't get it. Sure give him the iron man award for being tough. But hes tough and sucks.

Defense is bottom 5. Levy is back soon and might make it bottom 10....yippie.

Were shitty and might start 0-5. Prove me wrong Lions...dare you!

 

[tinselwolverine]

Ill go out on a limb and assume that I was the most pessimistic poster....although I still claim to be the most realistic.

You're talking about the Detroit Lions-what's the difference?

 

[LKP]

10-4, 11-3, 12-2 still the most probable finish.

 

[tomdalton22]

10-4, 11-3, 12-2 still the most probable finish.

If you are coming up with a probable finish you should look at what has happened and project forward. You can take into consideration the teams that they will play and where they play them. You can also hope for some level of improvement but also consider the possibility that they will not improve, could possibly regress or suffer injuries (which is very likely). After doing that...no rational person would suggest that a 11-3 or 12-2 finish is most probable! Hell, even 10-4 is highly unlikely. Of course...you are not rational.

 

[grandy]

I think it's time to ditch real life and explore alternate realities.

16-0 anyone?

 

[dubbsco]

Caldwell dropped the "process" line today at his presser. Basically hinting that it takes time for all this to come together.

No more of that patience BS. If it's such a process, why'd you pull off 11-5 last season? Are the Lions the only organization in football that are consistently allergic to parody?

 

[LKP]

If you are coming up with a probable finish you should look at what has happened and project forward. You can take into consideration the teams that they will play and where they play them. You can also hope for some level of improvement but also consider the possibility that they will not improve, could possibly regress or suffer injuries (which is very likely). After doing that...no rational person would suggest that a 11-3 or 12-2 finish is most probable! Hell, even 10-4 is highly unlikely. Of course...you are not rational.

I have done all that. 12-2 is most likely. 11-3 and 10-4 very probable.

Can't wait for Levy back and to see the Lions at home. Play Waddle at right tackle too. We can run and play run D like we did against Chargers.

Two road losses. Who cares. We can have 4 or 5 road losses and dominate at home (8-0)

 

[UMRules06]

I have done all that. 12-2 is most likely. 11-3 and 10-4 very probable.

Can't wait for Levy back and to see the Lions at home. Play Waddle at right tackle too. We can run and play run D like we did against Chargers.

Two road losses. Who cares. We can have 4 or 5 road losses and dominate at home (8-0)

Two losses are a big deal. A lot of people care as should you if you weren't just goofing around here. Someone pointed out the stats for teams that make the playoffs after starting 0-2. It's not good!

12-2 is the most likely scenario? In you look up the past 5 seasons there is maybe on average 1 team a year that pulls off a run like that in a 14 game window. That is absolutely ludicrous to say this is the "most likely" outcome for the Lions this year. But of course what else would we expect from you?

Didn't someone mention banning this guy for 4 months if he kept this charade up?

 

[LKP]

Two losses are a big deal. A lot of people care as should you if you weren't just goofing around here. Someone pointed out the stats for teams that make the playoffs after starting 0-2. It's not good!

12-2 is the most likely scenario? In you look up the past 5 seasons there is maybe on average 1 team a year that pulls off a run like that in a 14 game window. That is absolutely ludicrous to say this is the "most likely" outcome for the Lions this year. But of course what else would we expect from you?

Didn't someone mention banning this guy for 4 months if he kept this charade up?

We should ban you for getting ban happy.

12-2 is very probable given our talent and schedule.

8 home games. 8-0. Road games at Saints (suck), Rams (suck), Bears (suck) and KC neutral (tough game).

at Seattle, at GB probably lose but both looking weaker than thought.

I had us at 1-1 to start. I was always counting on a strong finish.

 

[tomdalton22]

We should ban you for getting ban happy.

12-2 is very probable given our talent and schedule.

8 home games. 8-0. Road games at Saints (suck), Rams (suck), Bears (suck) and KC neutral (tough game).

at Seattle, at GB probably lose but both looking weaker than thought.

I had us at 1-1 to start. I was always counting on a strong finish.

8-0 at home is a tall order when 4-5 of the teams they have at home are as good or better than the Lions. My guess is they go 6-2 or 5-3 at home this year.

 

[UMRules06]

We should ban you for getting ban happy.

12-2 is very probable given our talent and schedule.

8 home games. 8-0. Road games at Saints (suck), Rams (suck), Bears (suck) and KC neutral (tough game).

at Seattle, at GB probably lose but both looking weaker than thought.

I had us at 1-1 to start. I was always counting on a strong finish.

I am only ban happy with one person and that's you. Because you are a troll point blank and period. Everyone here knows it, but for whatever reason you get away with it.

12-2 is not "very probable" whatsoever. I just pointed out how 1 team a year on average has done it in recent history. 1/32 = 3.125%. Tell me how that translates to "very probable"?

Even if its a weak schedule as you point out, basic math tells you there is still not a good chance the Lions win ever single game they are favored in. There is this thing called "variability" in life. Chalking up all those games as wins is stupid for even the strongest of teams, and the Lions have looked anything but strong thus far.

 

[dubbsco]

UM, if he was banned this board would be a lot more lifeless. Most everyone on here responds to his comments.

But yeah I agree, it's too much at this point.

 

[UMRules06]

I get that some people like to have the pointless arguments with him. But many others have resorted to just ignoring his Username completely because he makes it impossible to read the board for them. I don't like people getting away with being dbags on purpose. But it is what it is at this point.

 

[LKP]

I'm not a dbag. I know a ton about the Lions. It's a fluke 0-2 start

12-2, 11-3, 10-4 all very probable given our talent level. We went 11-5 last year. Which was a 10-4 finish after a 1-1 start.

Don't act like that is impossible even after 0-2

8 homes games, 1 neutral game. We'll win alot.

You're not a fan if you don't think 10-4 is possible at least. They did it last year.

 

[UMRules06]

I'm not a dbag. I know a ton about the Lions. It's a fluke 0-2 start

12-2, 11-3, 10-4 all very probable given our talent level. We went 11-5 last year. Which was a 10-4 finish after a 1-1 start.

Don't act like that is impossible even after 0-2

8 homes games, 1 neutral game. We'll win alot.

You're not a fan if you don't think 10-4 is possible at least. They did it last year.

12-2 is a lot different than 10-4. I was arguing your statement that 12-2 is the "most probable" outcome which is exactly what you said. And nowhere did I say it's impossible. I am a math and numbers guy...and I said in my post there's approximately a 3.125% they could do it. That is possible...but not at all "very probable" as you continue to state. I understanding ignoring the math is necessary for you to keep posting your same drivel though so it makes sense you wouldn't address it.

You mention the team went 10-4 last year. You are the person who always says "what does history have to do with the 2015 Lions?" Now you are using it to back up your argument here. So which is it? Oh wait I know, its neither because you just make stuff up as you go.

You can bring in your phony arguments about "not being a fan" all you want. I'll be the first to go out and buy you a case of beer if they go 12-2. I would love nothing better.

 

[LKP]

12-2 is very probable. You didn't put in how much the Rams, Bears, Saints suck in your formula. Or the neutral site for KC.

8-0 at home is very possible. Lions are very good at home. GB/Zona/Denver/Min are tough but the Lions should win every home game. Raiders, Bears, Eagles, 49ers are slam dunk wins.

12-2 is most probable given what I just said above. Your historical numbers for the percentage are based on other teams not the 2015 super talented Lions. The others are irrelevant. Being a numbers guy is dumb using other teams.

This team is loaded with talent. It's not over because they lost two road games to the Chargers and pissed off Peterson. Peterson should have been banned for life.

 

[UMRules06]

12-2 is very probable. You didn't put in how much the Rams, Bears, Saints suck in your formula. Or the neutral site for KC.

8-0 at home is very possible. Lions are very good at home. GB/Zona/Denver/Min are tough but the Lions should win every home game. Raiders, Bears, Eagles, 49ers are slam dunk wins.

12-2 is most probable given what I just said above. Your historical numbers for the percentage are based on other teams not the 2015 super talented Lions. The others are irrelevant. Being a numbers guy is dumb using other teams.

This team is loaded with talent. It's not over because they lost two road games to the Chargers and pissed off Peterson. Peterson should have been banned for life.

You don't understand math...at all. Or you do and are just deliberately ignoring it for the sake of your gimmick. Even if you peg the Lions as 90% favorites to win each of their 8 home games (which is already insane)...when you crunch the numbers they still would only have about a 43% chance of going 8-0 at home. And now you're also basically saying the 2015 Lions are the most talented team in the last 5 years essentially.

That's enough for me to go out on. Have fun.

 

[dubbsco]

You tried UM. That's all you can do.

 

[LKP]

This isn't math. This is football. Lions are the better team for all 8 home games plus have the home crowd. They are better by far than the Rams,Bears,Chiefs and Saints. It's pretty simple. They shouldn't lose at home (see Pats/Packers etc). And they can go 4-4 on the road given who they face.

Would I feel better at 1-1 sure. But 0-2 has nothing to do with the next 14 games. Lions talent will shine