I just voted.

[Mitchrapp]

Here in Arizona, race is close for Governor. Voted red of course but the good thing is the dem seems like a good guy too..

 

[grandy]

I know wealthy people in line for a big inheritance or own a company and they talk about all the leeches and takers.

I know a guy like that. He inherited a few million from the father he hated, hasn't worked a day in his life, and constantly bitches about people on public assistance.

 

[Sbee]

I know a guy like that. He inherited a few million from the father he hated, hasn't worked a day in his life, and constantly bitches about people on public assistance.

Born on 3rd base, assumed he hit a triple. unfortunately a lot of people feel that way. I guess I see things differently since I grew up in a blue collar area, need to do some work to make sure the kids don't feel entitled.

 

[tinselwolverine]

Here in Arizona, race is close for Governor. Voted red of course but the good thing is the dem seems like a good guy too..

Arizona is a pretty red state; typically Democratic nominees will be pretty moderate.

Same way that Chris Christie and Mitt Romney were able to be elected as Republicans in blue states.

Meanwhile -

The Republicans could gain the majority in the in the U.S. Senate...and at the same time, Mitch McConnell could lose his own election.

That would be pretty ironic.

 

[TheVictors]

Well I get to see Dubya speak on TH here at a conference and Gentle Ben Bernanke too if I want

 

[Sbee]

Arizona is a pretty red state; typically Democratic nominees will be pretty moderate.

Same way that Chris Christie and Mitt Romney were able to be elected as Republicans in blue states.

Meanwhile -

The Republicans could gain the majority in the in the U.S. Senate...and at the same time, Mitch McConnell could lose his own election.

That would be pretty ironic.

majority doesn't really matter any more, you need a supermajority to pass legislation. This is assuming that the Democrats are going to hijack legislation the way the republicans did as a minority party, I don't know if they have the balls to do that (or maybe they just accept the results of elections).

 

[biggunsbob]

We took our daughter to vote for her first time.. My wife is so serious and everything is so quite in the voting area but I try and make people laugh and make it fun... I had too much coffee and was way to hyper!!!!!

What's up with not being able to taking pictures?
I took one anyway of my daughter and when she got out in the hallway
my wife took a couple of them...

Go Blue!!!!!!!!

Too bad it looks like red is going to win

 

[byco42]

that's what I hear from just about everyone who shares their political views. I know wealthy people in line for a big inheritance or own a company and they talk about all the leeches and takers. the lower income people I know from where I grew up all talk about the 1%.

I'm in the small minority that votes against my own economic interests. I'm paying more under Obama but I'm ok with it, although I do lawyer my way down to 22% usually

Such virtue. You are a "Noble" in the true sense of the term. Shame on me for casting aspersions on on the poor from the lofts of my townhouse complex that's getting torn down in a month.

Newsflash: Everyone who votes "against my own economic interests" has a marginal point where they won't anymore.

 

[TheVictors]

Reminds me of a saying ...."No atheists in a foxhole"


It's noble to be able to afford the luxury of voting against your interests until you can't afford that nobility. I grew up very working class and have been working myself since age 12.

I choose to donate directly to charity to offset the tax burden I am so blessed to be paying these days.

 

[byco42]

Reminds me of a saying ...."No atheists in a foxhole"


It's noble to be able to afford the luxury of voting against your interests until you can't afford that nobility. I grew up very working class and have been working myself since age 12.

I choose to donate directly to charity to offset the tax burden I am so blessed to be paying these days.

My motivation to donate directly to selected charities is definitely partially driven by the fact that at least I get to choose where a significant portion of my net earnings are put to use.

 

[TheVictors]

My motivation to donate directly to selected charities is definitely partially driven by the fact that at least I get to choose where a significant portion of my net earnings are put to use.

Bingo!

 

[jwlcosu]

I'm in the small minority that votes against my own economic interests. I'm paying more under Obama but I'm ok with it, although I do lawyer my way down to 22% usually

As a productive individual, Sbee, which I'm certain you are, there will come a time when it dawns on you that voting against your economic self-interest accomplishes zilch. We do no favors when we enable the nanny state.

 

[Sbee]

Reminds me of a saying ...."No atheists in a foxhole"


It's noble to be able to afford the luxury of voting against your interests until you can't afford that nobility. I grew up very working class and have been working myself since age 12.

I choose to donate directly to charity to offset the tax burden I am so blessed to be paying these days.

I decide how i should vote by asking myself the questions

"what's best for a single mother working at coney island who wants a better life for her child"

essentially it's all about the working poor with me. I now spend a lot of time with the silver spoon types and they extol all of the virtues of hard work leading to financial success. I grew up in the most blue collar of blue collar areas and trust me, those people worked hard. the waitresses, factory workers, and the people who work at K-mart. those people work harder than those of us who push paper for a living

 

[Sbee]

As a productive individual, Sbee, which I'm certain you are, there will come a time when it dawns on you that voting against your economic self-interest accomplishes zilch. We do no favors when we enable the nanny state.

well we can have policy that favors corporate interests and the top 1% which we do now, when you do that, you will have a large welfare state. It's not possible to have it both ways, small government and few handouts to the poor along with plenty of handouts to big business.

I for one would be in favor for paying the true cost of everything, don't have the government supply medicaid for low income workers and mandate that wal mart and mcdonalds pay a living wage. Why should we pay for their healthcare and food stamps through subsidies when it should be paid by ronald mcdonald himself.

 

[tinselwolverine]

Brown is a rock to be reelected governor of California today.

The other slightly significant elections are one career politician against another.

There aren't any ballot initiatives that are going to have much of an impact either way.

I'm pretty sure my congressman Brad Sherman is going to be reelected for the 14th millionth time today; I haven't heard boo about him even actually being a candidate, but if he wasn't running-That would have been news.

 

[Sbee]

Reminds me of a saying ...."No atheists in a foxhole"


It's noble to be able to afford the luxury of voting against your interests until you can't afford that nobility. I grew up very working class and have been working myself since age 12.

I choose to donate directly to charity to offset the tax burden I am so blessed to be paying these days.

of course there aren't atheists in a foxhole, you're not thinking rationally when your life is in danger. you're sure as hell hoping there is something beyond your existence on earth so you buy into the fairy tale that you'll end up in some green pasture, young and healthy, and all of your deceased relatives will be there to greet you.

 

[tinselwolverine]

I decide how i should vote by asking myself the questions

"what's best for a single mother working at coney island who wants a better life for her child"

coney Island hotdog restaurant, or the real Coney Island?

Because if you're talking about the famous old place at the end of Brooklyn, I hate to burst your bubble but as long as you're not voting in the state of New York, virtually nothing you would ever vote for has any effect on her one way or the other.

 

[TheVictors]

Coney Island is just Detroit for Diner, Tinsel. Come on.

What you should be asking is 'what is best for a single mother working at In N Out Burger?!'

 

[tinselwolverine]

of course there aren't atheists in a foxhole, you're not thinking rationally when your life is in danger. you're sure as hell hoping there is something beyond your existence on earth so you buy into the fairy tale that you'll end up in some green pasture, young and healthy, and all of your deceased relatives will be there to greet you.

I think the expression actually comes from people simply praying not to die; I don't think it has anything to do with where they hope to end up if they don't make it through.

 

[Michchamp]

voting for a more equal society isn't really "voting against your own interests" unless you define your interests narrowly as "me paying as little in taxes as possible, and not caring if this actually means I have to pay more for services & goods provided by the private sector in the short term or long term."

It's also amazing how many middle class - and hell, now even upper middle class - people vote against their own interests so Mitt Romney's marginal tax rates go down across the board. but whatever... there's a chance they too could be that rich someday... if they "work hard."

and there are atheists in foxholes by the way...