I love this

[cheeno]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvLz_7VkXD0

Here is him doing some consulting right now.

 

[LKP]

Bills were 4th in YPG, 4th in PPG, 1st in 3rd down stop %, 6th in turnover differential, 1st in sacks.

Jim Schwartz can coach. It's amazing he doesn't have a DC job.

 

[cheeno]

He'll always have that time he was carried off the field on the shoulders of an 8-8 Bills team after a non-divisional non-conference win during the fifth game of the regular season where his defense sealed the victory by having our kicker miss three times in a row from point blank range. You're right who wouldn't want to work with that high character guy? He's like Rudy Rudiger or something.

 

[biggunsbob]

Jimmy is a little Dick..

 

[everyoneneedsasmil]

Schwartz always seemed pretty good with defense. The problem is that he seemed overwhelmed as a head coach and should have focused more on his strengths (he seemed to defer too much to the OC and DC). Caldwell seems better at managing personalities and getting players to buy-in to a philosophy, but he's a bad game manager with the clock and challenges. Main difference is that Caldwell has Austin right now, so at least one side of the ball should be good consistently.

 

[tomdalton22]

Even if Carter doesn't turn into the next Slay, or even play corner, it won't be because Mathis refused to mentor the kid. I'd honestly be shocked if Mathis didn't have something to do with the organization at some point after his playing days are over.

http://m.detroitlions.com/s/30846/260?itemPos=1&itemUri=729627956/142945136791561551251020

just got a notice from ESPN that said he wants to be a professional golfer when he retires. LOL...he is a 4 handicap right now and he thinks he can be a pro!

 

[everyoneneedsasmil]

just got a notice from ESPN that said he wants to be a professional golfer when he retires. LOL...he is a 4 handicap right now and he thinks he can be a pro!

It's honestly not that crazy. You don't become a 10+ year vet in the NFL without having a lot of natural talent and a lot of dedication. Professional athletes in general are those with greater than normal kinesthetic sense. If he dedicated himself as fully to golf as he has to football, there's no reason he couldn't reach the professional level there.

 

[tomdalton22]

It's honestly not that crazy. You don't become a 10+ year vet in the NFL without having a lot of natural talent and a lot of dedication. Professional athletes in general are those with greater than normal kinesthetic sense. If he dedicated himself as fully to golf as he has to football, there's no reason he couldn't reach the professional level there.

Impossible...maybe not...but definitely crazy. This guy is a 4 handicap. I am currently a 6. There is no way on God's green earth that I would be delusional enough that I could practice a bunch and try and compete with professional golfers. John Smoltz was a +2 (6 better than Mathis). He tried the Nationwide tour and failed miserably. Jerry Rice as well...he was reported to be a +1 or +2 and also tried out for the Nationwide tour and could barely break 80.

 

[brewer229]

Watching pro golfers live pretty much destroys anyone's dream of being a pro golfer. I've done volunteer work as a walking scorer for an LPGA event, watching the elite woman golf was very humbling and made me realize I'm not nearly as good as I thought.
I plan to stick to my golf league where I'm one of the best!

 

[everyoneneedsasmil]

Impossible...maybe not...but definitely crazy. This guy is a 4 handicap. I am currently a 6. There is no way on God's green earth that I would be delusional enough that I could practice a bunch and try and compete with professional golfers. John Smoltz was a +2 (6 better than Mathis). He tried the Nationwide tour and failed miserably. Jerry Rice as well...he was reported to be a +1 or +2 and also tried out for the Nationwide tour and could barely break 80.

To be fair, I did say he would need to apply himself fully, with the same determination he's given to football. It's not a guarantee by any means. Professional golfers are almost always on a course. They are practicing puts and drives hundreds of times a day, reviewing where every ball landed and how their swing looked (tape, motion sensors). There is a very good chance that most former athletes aren't working THAT hard, even if they are close.

Also, those handicap differences don't always say what people assume. As good a golfer as you are, you know that someone who is a +2 on one course may really be a +8 once they reach a new course. Someone's handicap is often tied closely to the places they play and the conditions they play in.

To your point about being a +6 and not thinking you could be a pro, you may be right. To be a true pro, you need more than just to have learned your own strengths and weaknesses. I'm not even a +6, but I simply can't drive the ball far enough to ever be a scratch golfer on a pro course. Even if I were to focus on that one thing as hard as I could, I would never have a 280 yard drive (average for PGA). I'm not build for it. My main point is that there's nothing physically holding back professional athletes the way it would hold back regular people. You and I may never be able to form enough neural pathways to have the precision of a pro golfer. Professional athletes, conversely, often become so because they naturally have more and develop them easier.

 

[tomdalton22]

To be fair, I did say he would need to apply himself fully, with the same determination he's given to football. It's not a guarantee by any means. Professional golfers are almost always on a course. They are practicing puts and drives hundreds of times a day, reviewing where every ball landed and how their swing looked (tape, motion sensors). There is a very good chance that most former athletes aren't working THAT hard, even if they are close.

Also, those handicap differences don't always say what people assume. As good a golfer as you are, you know that someone who is a +2 on one course may really be a +8 once they reach a new course. Someone's handicap is often tied closely to the places they play and the conditions they play in.

To your point about being a +6 and not thinking you could be a pro, you may be right. To be a true pro, you need more than just to have learned your own strengths and weaknesses. I'm not even a +6, but I simply can't drive the ball far enough to ever be a scratch golfer on a pro course. Even if I were to focus on that one thing as hard as I could, I would never have a 280 yard drive (average for PGA). I'm not build for it. My main point is that there's nothing physically holding back professional athletes the way it would hold back regular people. You and I may never be able to form enough neural pathways to have the precision of a pro golfer. Professional athletes, conversely, often become so because they naturally have more and develop them easier.

well, to my knowledge, there has not been a single professional from another sport that was able to have any success on the PGA tour. I even pointed out some of the absolute best that failed miserably, even on the Nationwide tour.

Like I said...nothing is impossible...but I would bet a lot of money that Mathis won't be the first!