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Josh Mccown released by Bucs

every QB has that kind of shit happen to them...every one!

Not as much as Stafford does. Rodgers has always had multiple weapons, run game last 2 years, decent protection for the most part (less hits/hurries if sacks are high).

All have different schedules, injuries to deal with etc too.

Stafford has gotten the short end of the stick. All he needed was some defense and we are an 11 win team. Now give him a run game or protection and we'll win a Super Bowl.
 
Not as much as Stafford does. Rodgers has always had multiple weapons, run game last 2 years, decent protection for the most part (less hits/hurries if sacks are high).

All have different schedules, injuries to deal with etc too.

Stafford has gotten the short end of the stick. All he needed was some defense and we are an 11 win team. Now give him a run game or protection and we'll win a Super Bowl.

no..he needed a top 3 defense to carry the team to 11 wins...the team would have won 11 games and been knocked out of the first round of the playoffs with any average QB. You name one and the Lions would have had the same result. Put an elite QB on the Lions and they would have likely won a few playoff games...maybe more!

Stafford is nothing more than average at this point.
 
Fauria could have caught that ball??? It was 9 feet over his head...
 
no..he needed a top 3 defense to carry the team to 11 wins...the team would have won 11 games and been knocked out of the first round of the playoffs with any average QB. You name one and the Lions would have had the same result. Put an elite QB on the Lions and they would have likely won a few playoff games...maybe more!

Stafford is nothing more than average at this point.

Average qbs don't lead five glorious come backs. Without run game and protection, stafford deserved that defense. Great job mayhew
 
Average qbs don't lead five glorious come backs. Without run game and protection, stafford deserved that defense. Great job mayhew

out of one side of your mouth you say the Lions have no run game and no protection then out of the other side you say "great job Mayhew". I have to assume the "Great job Mayhew" comment was sarcasm.
 
out of one side of your mouth you say the Lions have no run game and no protection then out of the other side you say "great job Mayhew". I have to assume the "Great job Mayhew" comment was sarcasm.

run game was great last year. oline was great last year. Stafford still sucked ass. Hes proven 1 thing. He needs the world around him to be successful. He needs:

more than 5 quality weapons (incase 2 are out a game or 2) that can do all the work for him because he isn't accurate enough to throw anyone open

Great oline

Great run game

Great defense

Great special teams

5 qb gurus

and a partridge in a pear tree.....

When Stafford gets all that we MIGHT be a super bowl caliber team. Guess what.....if Ryan Fitzpatrick had all that he could take his team to the super bowl too lmao.

Aka...Stafford is not very good....makes no one else around him better. Is horribly inaccurate, locks on to his top 2 read too often so no matter how many weapons he has only a couple guys ever really touch the ball enough to make an impact. Doesn't audible well, isn't very good in the pocket, pretty awful at making plays out of the pocket...his poor accuracy turns into horrifying accuracy when hes on the move.

Ive been done making excuses for him for going on 3 years now. Lombardi doesn't help....but staffords play is mainly a result of his limitations. He has a strong arm and he has calvin Johnson....that's what you can credit any success to.
 
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out of one side of your mouth you say the Lions have no run game and no protection then out of the other side you say "great job Mayhew". I have to assume the "Great job Mayhew" comment was sarcasm.

calvin missed 2 games last year that's why Stafford sucked.

Oh, and don't forget...when your undrafted free agent right tackle goes down a couple games....POOF!!!!, there goes the season! lmao

Team is built like a glass house with people constantly throwing rocks at it.
 
out of one side of your mouth you say the Lions have no run game and no protection then out of the other side you say "great job Mayhew". I have to assume the "Great job Mayhew" comment was sarcasm.

11-5. Stafford weapons and defense. Great job mayhew. Every part of team can't be perfect every year
 
calvin missed 2 games last year that's why Stafford sucked.

Oh, and don't forget...when your undrafted free agent right tackle goes down a couple games....POOF!!!!, there goes the season! lmao

Team is built like a glass house with people constantly throwing rocks at it.

11-5. We overcame with stafford and defense great job mayhew. You realize the top tackle backup got hurt game one too. Waddle and Hilliard. Lucas grew though so that's good. Raiola replaced now. Warford healthy too
 
run game was great last year. oline was great last year. Stafford still sucked ass. Hes proven 1 thing. He needs the world around him to be successful. He needs:

more than 5 quality weapons (incase 2 are out a game or 2) that can do all the work for him because he isn't accurate enough to throw anyone open

Great oline

Great run game

Great defense

Great special teams

5 qb gurus

and a partridge in a pear tree.....

When Stafford gets all that we MIGHT be a super bowl caliber team. Guess what.....if Ryan Fitzpatrick had all that he could take his team to the super bowl too lmao.

Aka...Stafford is not very good....makes no one else around him better. Is horribly inaccurate, locks on to his top 2 read too often so no matter how many weapons he has only a couple guys ever really touch the ball enough to make an impact. Doesn't audible well, isn't very good in the pocket, pretty awful at making plays out of the pocket...his poor accuracy turns into horrifying accuracy when hes on the move.

Ive been done making excuses for him for going on 3 years now. Lombardi doesn't help....but staffords play is mainly a result of his limitations. He has a strong arm and he has calvin Johnson....that's what you can credit any success to.

We don't need all. Stafford defense and proper refs would be enough. We beat Dallas. We were super bowl caliber this year
 
Stafford had plenty of chances to win that Dallas game.
 
Stafford had plenty of chances to win that Dallas game.

Stafford played well. Refs messed up and reiff missed a block in a great comeback attempt. Pick not his fault. Bad luck on tip
 
He played well til it counted. I'll give him that
 
This is still a debate? Really?

Free agency needs to get here soon
 
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