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Lions Fire Special Teams Coach Joe Marciano

I made the EXACT point I wanted to make. Had I wanted to compare rookie years I would have said and then done that. I used 10 years simply because it’s a nice round number. So then.....unbelievably...... I quoted stats from 10 years ago. I never compared Stafford and Mayfield’s rookie years....Brewer did. I simply compared Mayfields stats to QB’s from 10 years ago.....which again.....was my original statement.

Again I ask, why is that hard to understand?

well, then you shouldn't have quoted the comparison of BOTH rookie seasons. It was very misleading.
 
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well, then it was stupid of you to quote the comparison of BOTH rookie seasons. It was very misleading.

I?m sorry (I?m not) that your reading comprehension skills are terrible. I will try to remember that for next time.
 
Go Browns!!!!

Yaayyyyyyyy Baker!!!!

We know, no younger guy will ever be better than Stafford.. Goff can't be better, Wentz can't be better, Mahomes can't be better, Waton can't be better, Wilson can't be better,
 
We know, no younger guy will ever be better than Stafford.. Goff can't be better, Wentz can't be better, Mahomes can't be better, Waton can't be better, Wilson can't be better,

stafford #17 in qbr and dropping like a rock. He needs to be better. We cant keep saying hes not winning because the team around him is no good....or a mere facet of our game isnt good so the entire team loses. The only way you get a complete team is a franchise qb on a hometown discount or a qb on a rookie contract that overperforms.

Seahawks sign Wilson to a long term deal...lose half their defense and poof...theyre crap.

Goff and Mahomes are on teams that went out and spent money to make the rest of the team better...they can do that because their qbs make peanuts.

You just cant resign Stafford again if were still at the bottom of the division in 2021....not if you ever want to win.

PS...its not even a comparison that Goff and Mahomes are outperforming Stafford....the fact is Trubisky is even out performing Stafford...hes a top 10 QBR guy through half the year. Remember when we all made fun of the bears for all those shitty draft picks and said they were going to be a dumpster fire for years. Ooops...eggs on all of us.
 
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stafford #17 in qbr and dropping like a rock. He needs to be better. We cant keep saying hes not winning because the team around him is no good....or a mere facet of our game isnt good so the entire team loses. The only way you get a complete team is a franchise qb on a hometown discount or a qb on a rookie contract that overperforms.

Seahawks sign Wilson to a long term deal...lose half their defense and poof...theyre crap.

Goff and Mahomes are on teams that went out and spent money to make the rest of the team better...they can do that because their qbs make peanuts.

You just cant resign Stafford again if were still at the bottom of the division in 2021....not if you ever want to win.

PS...its not even a comparison that off and Mahomes are outperforming Stafford....the fact is Trubisky is even out performing Stafford...hes a top 10 QBR guy through half the year.

But money doesn't matter when improving a team. Just ask Tony.
 
We know, no younger guy will ever be better than Stafford.. Goff can't be better, Wentz can't be better, Mahomes can't be better, Waton can't be better, Wilson can't be better,

Stop defelecting, buddy. You know damn well that's not what I meant. You're the dummy comparing rookie seasons between Baker and Matt. For what reason?? Only your little brain knows. Let Baker get his feet wet before you run your mouth lol. He's nowhere near the talent Stafford is...
 
Stop defelecting, buddy. You know damn well that's not what I meant. You're the dummy comparing rookie seasons between Baker and Matt. For what reason?? Only your little brain knows. Let Baker get his feet wet before you run your mouth lol. He's nowhere near the talent Stafford is...

Because you are the one that said Mayfield wouldn't even last five years? Why do you think that? What is that based off of? You ran your mouth on the kid first.
I never said he was currently better than Stafford. But the little bit I've seen on him in the NFL, the kid looks like he could be legit. No reason to write him off as a bust.
 
But money doesn't matter when improving a team. Just ask Tony.

Again, you fucking moron, I never said money doesn't necessarily matter. I was laughing because you compared the Browns cap vs the Lions cap. I don't care if the Browns have 200MIL under the cap. They're still the Browns and they're the laughing stock of the NFL.
You being the dummy that you are thinks having more money then the next team means their future is brighter lol. Again, you're not very smart but hey, no surprise here. Let's make it simple for ya......ready?
"It's not about how much money you have. It's about how you spend it".
Got it?? Of course you don't....
 
Again, you fucking moron, I never said money doesn't necessarily matter. I was laughing because you compared the Browns cap vs the Lions cap. I don't care if the Browns have 200MIL under the cap. They're still the Browns and they're the laughing stock of the NFL.
You being the dummy that you are thinks having more money then the next team means their future is brighter lol. Again, you're not very smart but hey, no surprise here. Let's make it simple for ya......ready?
"It's not about how much money you have. It's about how you spend it".
Got it?? Of course you don't....

We are the Lions. We are a laughing stock as well. What makes you think the Lions will spend it any better than the Browns?

If you are only going to use history to predict the future, than neither the Browns or the Lions will ever do anything.
 
Because you are the one that said Mayfield wouldn't even last five years? Why do you think that? What is that based off of? You ran your mouth on the kid first.
I never said he was currently better than Stafford. But the little bit I've seen on him in the NFL, the kid looks like he could be legit. No reason to write him off as a bust.

Because he plays for the Browns!!! Lol. That's why I said that. They're terrible. I actually came on this board and said Mayfield was my favorite QB coming out this yr. Not the most talented tho. I was hoping he wouldn't go to Cleveland because I like the kid. He better be mentally prepared playing for that shit organization because they don't win football games....EVER. I hope he turns that organization around but losing is contagious. And all they do is lose lol.
 
We are the Lions. We are a laughing stock as well. What makes you think the Lions will spend it any better than the Browns?

If you are only going to use history to predict the future, than neither the Browns or the Lions will ever do anything.

We're not in the same category as the Browns, man lol. Stop right there. It's not even close anymore. Cleveland is the front runner.
To answer your question about how the Lions will spend it more wisely. Simple....they didn't overpay for a 30 yr old slot receiver. That right there tells me they're smarter. Don't be surprised if you see Tate in a Browns uniform next yr bruh lol. I'll call it now. Tate will be a Brown on a huge deal.

As for how the future goes. I fully trust the Lions over the shit stain Browns. 3 yrs and 3 wins buddy!! You can't even make that shit up.
 
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Its weird knowing that in the 50's the Browns & Lions faced each other in the Championship game 4 times in 6 years and both have been relatively really awful since then.

I'm going on a limb here but I think we're doomed.
 
Because he plays for the Browns!!! Lol. That's why I said that. They're terrible. I actually came on this board and said Mayfield was my favorite QB coming out this yr. Not the most talented tho. I was hoping he wouldn't go to Cleveland because I like the kid. He better be mentally prepared playing for that shit organization because they don't win football games....EVER. I hope he turns that organization around but losing is contagious. And all they do is lose lol.

That's what people were saying about Stafford and the Lions when he was the #1 pick.
 
Its weird knowing that in the 50's the Browns & Lions faced each other in the Championship game 4 times in 6 years and both have been relatively really awful since then.

I'm going on a limb here but I think we're doomed.

Only 4 more playoff wins and we catch up to them!
 
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Only 4 more playoff wins and we catch up to them!


Normally I wouldn't take anything (more playoffs, even a playoff win) to be the Browns the past 20 years. But after awhile 3 wins in 3 years or 9-7 year after year not sure there's a big difference. Still no playoff wins.
 
Normally I wouldn't take anything (more playoffs, even a playoff win) to be the Browns the past 20 years. But after awhile 3 wins in 3 years or 9-7 year after year not sure there's a big difference. Still no playoff wins.

It really isn?t.

Not that much. After the year is over the difference between 3 wins and 9 wins is almost nothing.....just a worse draft pick and heightened preseason hype.

During the season it?s a big difference.
 
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