Lions moving Reiff to guard?

[dtroitlionsfan951]

i liked it when i thought a 10 year starting lt fell to us that low or at worst a 10 year starting rt fell to us that low. But as of right now hes a fb that couldnt beat out gosder who's apparently moving to rg cause he couldnt beat out a guy thats been inured for 3 years. w....t...f.

how's he not beating anyone out? are they even seriously practicing right now?

 

[cheeno]

I hope this report is bogus or Reiff is a stud guard.

 

[zyxt9]

For those not complaining, keep in mind if this was happening on a different team we would be laughing at the ineptitude of that team.

Hopefully it works out though.

 

[lionsFTW]

I'm kinda confused why some didn't see this coming. Reiff's strong suit was at run blocking last year. He was constantly praised as possibly the best run blocking lineman we had on the entire roster as a rookie. We let Peterman go to free up some cap space. We have a ton of holes to fill. They seem to think either Hilliard or Fox will be adequate at RT = Slap Reiff into RG spot = one less position to fill this off season.

If you start Reiff at RT then you still have to spend either money or a semi high draft pick to find a starting RG.

 

[Mitchrapp]

I'm kinda confused why some didn't see this coming. Reiff's strong suit was at run blocking last year. He was constantly praised as possibly the best run blocking lineman we had on the entire roster as a rookie. We let Peterman go to free up some cap space. We have a ton of holes to fill. They seem to think either Hilliard or Fox will be adequate at RT = Slap Reiff into RG spot = one less position to fill this off season.

If you start Reiff at RT then you still have to spend either money or a semi high draft pick to find a starting RG.

RG are easier to get over a RT. Draft one at earlier 2 or better yet go LT at 5 and move Backus to RG for a year. Reiff slides in at RT. Perfect.

 

[lgolfer]

I'm kinda confused why some didn't see this coming. Reiff's strong suit was at run blocking last year. He was constantly praised as possibly the best run blocking lineman we had on the entire roster as a rookie. We let Peterman go to free up some cap space. We have a ton of holes to fill. They seem to think either Hilliard or Fox will be adequate at RT = Slap Reiff into RG spot = one less position to fill this off season.

If you start Reiff at RT then you still have to spend either money or a semi high draft pick to find a starting RG.

Bill Nagy was picked up during training camp last so that he could could compete at either center or RG. Nagy should be our RG unless he ends up sucking.

Reiff was drafted to play either LT or RT. If he ends up playing RG (barring us taking Fisher at 5 this draft), it shows Mayhew's ineptitude and we wasted a 1st round pick unless he becomes a star RG because pick 23 is too high for anything less than a great RG.

 

[cheeno]

Bill Nagy was picked up during training camp last so that he could could compete at either center or RG. Nagy should be our RG unless he ends up sucking.

Reiff was drafted to play either LT or RT. If he ends up playing RG (barring us taking Fisher at 5 this draft), it shows Mayhew's ineptitude and we wasted a 1st round pick unless he becomes a star RG because pick 23 is too high for anything less than a great RG.

If the report is true he better be one hell of a RG ie top guard in last years draft class because that is where we drafted him.
BTW Cordy Glenn of the Bills who everyone on this board seemed to mock to us is supposed to be a stud RT. Juss sayin.

 

[mhughes0021]

how's he not beating anyone out? are they even seriously practicing right now?

I was going off of how he rode the pine most of the year. Aka....other people played over him. Aka he was either beat out or we stash all our talent on the bench.

 

[lionsFTW]

RG are easier to get over a RT. Draft one at earlier 2 or better yet go LT at 5 and move Backus to RG for a year. Reiff slides in at RT. Perfect.

Not saying I disagree with you or anything, just pointing out that in the aforementioned scenario above we don't need to use a draft pick on either position.

Just before free agency starts, and we know what the market will look like and who will all be available, I'm going to outline my plan. While not being exactly the same as yours above it's in the same spirit :tup:

Bill Nagy was picked up during training camp last so that he could could compete at either center or RG. Nagy should be our RG unless he ends up sucking.

Reiff was drafted to play either LT or RT. If he ends up playing RG (barring us taking Fisher at 5 this draft), it shows Mayhew's ineptitude and we wasted a 1st round pick unless he becomes a star RG because pick 23 is too high for anything less than a great RG.

Bill Nagy has never seen any reasonable amount of snaps and has had injury concerns so there's nothing definitive there. Now I understand Fox is in pretty much the same boat but if the current scenario shakes out as expected then they at least have some depth and two guys they feel they can rely on if one of our starters goes down (Nagy/Hilliard) to cover all 5 offensive line positions. If we roll with Nagy and Reiff as our right side and Nagy goes down then, welp, there goes the neighborhood as there's currently no depth behind him at G/C and if you haven't noticed we don't exactly have a ton of wiggle room in regards to finding quality guys. Also what happens if Raiola goes down. Do we then shuffle three guys around to fill that void? That seems inefficient, no?

You either have

Backus, Sims, Raiola, Reiff, Fox

with Nagy as a backup G/C and Hilliard as a backup T. then you're not as concerned with lacking depth and holes to fill if someone goes down

or

Backus, Sims, Raiola, Nagy, Reiff

with two backup tackles in Fox and Hilliard and now you need to go get a backup guard and center who you feel you can rely on.

It's much more efficient to do it the way they're shaping up to roll it out.

Also, this doesn't necessarily mean its a permanent move for Reiff if they do kick him inside. They can just as easily move him back to tackle next year as he's shown no reason to think he can't hold up on the outside. I honestly believe it's just a matter of functionality and the fact they're between a rock and hard place regarding the cap.

 

[tonyballs]

It's only rumors for now...everyone fn chill.

And if he's better suited at Guard, then so be it!! If Fox turns out to be somewhat irrelevant, good for us!! They're holding onto the guy the last few years for some reason. People just love to fn bitch on this board because there's nothing else to do or what? Let's complain because Reiff could be a hell of a Guard and Fox finally steps up...fn priceless.

It never ends with some of you fn guys...lol.

 

[tbone413]

I believe that the Lions want to put the 5 most talented guys on the OLine this year. They probably think that there isnt an affordable FA available that is more talented than Reiff. Also, crazy or not, the Lions Brass have said time and time again that they love Fox and it seems to me that they are going to give him a shot to play this year. They will move Reiff over to Guard for this year, then when Backus retires next year, Reiff will slide over to Left and either Fox will play right (Fat chance due to his health), or they will draft/sign a replacement at that time.

I don't think it would be the end of the world if this happened this season..Obviously they think that Reiff is more talented at T than Fox, but Fox has NO chance of playing Guard, and they NEED to get Reif some P.T. this season. This is the only way to get the most "Talent" on the field.

 

[Mitchrapp]

I believe that the Lions want to put the 5 most talented guys on the OLine this year. They probably think that there isnt an affordable FA available that is more talented than Reiff. Also, crazy or not, the Lions Brass have said time and time again that they love Fox and it seems to me that they are going to give him a shot to play this year. They will move Reiff over to Guard for this year, then when Backus retires next year, Reiff will slide over to Left and either Fox will play right (Fat chance due to his health), or they will draft/sign a replacement at that time.

I don't think it would be the end of the world if this happened this season..Obviously they think that Reiff is more talented at T than Fox, but Fox has NO chance of playing Guard, and they NEED to get Reif some P.T. this season. This is the only way to get the most "Talent" on the field.

Get rid of Fox and go get a RG. Simple.

 

[cheeno]

Get rid of Fox and go get a RG. Simple.

Exactly. Fuck musical chairs.

 

[zyxt9]

Maybe they could go with

backus, Sims, nagy, reiff, fox

Might be much better vs run with that OL...maybe. Still need a backuo guard, but I think they get a c/g in the draft in prep for raiola departure next year and give that kid a year to develop, unless he proves good enough to start immediately, but that is rare.

 

[everyoneneedsasmil]

All I do is think about this: If the Lions had taken Kevin Zeitler (27th overall) instead of Rieff, we would have an all-pro caliber guard and would be praising the pick as a stroke of genius. If Rieff can play guard at a high level, I'm not going to care that he was originally drafted as a LT. I'm just going to be happy that we got another highly productive player.

 

[Mitchrapp]

All I do is think about this: If the Lions had taken Kevin Zeitler (27th overall) instead of Rieff, we would have an all-pro caliber guard and would be praising the pick as a stroke of genius. If Rieff can play guard at a high level, I'm not going to care that he was originally drafted as a LT. I'm just going to be happy that we got another highly productive player.

How good can he actually be if Peterman was at RG last season instead of him?

 

[johnny2x2x]

How good can he actually be if Peterman was at RG last season instead of him?

That's what's concerning. He couldn't beat out Gosdar at RT, he couldn;t beat out Peterman and RG, but now he's going to be a stud RG? Someone said it best, if some other team had drafted a LT and played him at FB/TE as a rookie and then moved him to RG a year later, we'd be laughing at that team and the mistake they made. Furthermore, it's even more likely that the Lions blew a pick because they have the worst track record of drafting of any team in league history.

As for Reiff at RG. Look at his body type and tell me he's a guard.

 

[Mitchrapp]

He's going to be our 2014 starting FB.

 

[Mitchrapp]

It reminds me of when we drafted Spievey. He was a CB that was going to play S because that's where Schwartz saw him. Well, why not just draft a fuckin' S then?

 

[Yzermaniac]

It's only rumors for now...everyone fn chill.

And if he's better suited at Guard, then so be it!! If Fox turns out to be somewhat irrelevant, good for us!! They're holding onto the guy the last few years for some reason. People just love to fn bitch on this board because there's nothing else to do or what? Let's complain because Reiff could be a hell of a Guard and Fox finally steps up...fn priceless.

It never ends with some of you fn guys...lol.

We're complaining because Mayhew drafted this kid to be our future LT. If he believed he was a tackle and has already given that up, then it's a shitty pick. I'm not complaining about Reiff possibly being better suited for guard , I'm complaining about Mayhews draft picks.