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mhughes0021

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I find it odd that Houston hasn't even shown up....to ANYTHING this offseason. Hurt toe 8 months ago and he cant even sit on a sideline yet?....something is off.

Observations from Day 1 of Lions minicamp

June, 10, 2014

By Michael Rothstein | ESPN.com

ALLEN PARK, Mich. -- The Detroit Lions finished the first day of their mandatory minicamp on Tuesday. While the most important thing for the Lions was no new significant injuries to speak of, there were some points that stood out throughout the session.

For the first time this spring, most of them will focus positively on the offense. ?This was probably the most balanced open practice Detroit has had this offseason. The offense looked the smoothest it has been during May and June, including one 11-on-11 period when Matthew Stafford completed every pass he threw. For the past few weeks, the offensive players have said it would take time for the timing of the offensive routes to show through. For the first time this spring, it did during an open practice. There were points during last week?s OTA that it looked better, but the Lions had all of their main offensive pieces except for Golden Tate and Joique Bell this practice.
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JohnsonThe play of the day was easily something Lions fans have seen over and over again throughout the past five seasons with the Lions. Stafford threw a 50-plus yard pass to Calvin Johnson that resulted in a touchdown during 11-on-11 drills. It was the perfectly thrown ball that has happened often between the two over the years. Johnson beat two defenders -- cornerback Bill Bentley and safety Isa Abdul-Quddus -- on the play.
?Play of the Day, Part II: This wasn?t quite as impressive as the all-too-typical Johnson play, but Corey Fuller made a nice sideline grab on a pass from Dan Orlovsky. He had to jump to make the play and corralled the ball while apparently getting both feet down. It was a play a pro wide receiver would make, and Fuller has been spending most of the spring trying to prove he is that.
?The player of the day was Johnson. The All-Pro wide receiver looked like his normal self for the first time all spring. He caught essentially everything that was thrown to him throughout the day, ran crisp routes and crushed pretty much all of the Lions defensive backs when he was matched up with them. He was a big part of why the offense looked better than it has all spring.
?Jeremy Ross is going to get some playing time at receiver this fall. Sure, Tate was not at practice, but Ross took advantage of yet another opportunity and integrated himself into the offense once again. Lions coach Jim Caldwell also seemed pleased with Ross, who spent the offseason working specifically on pelvic movement, flexibility and cutting to improve his route-running. It seems to have paid dividends thus far. Ryan Broyles got some run with the first team as well.
?Following on Ross? emergence, the same could be said for running back Theo Riddick. The second-year pro out of Notre Dame received a good chunk of first-team reps. Some of those will go to Bell when he returns for training camp, but Riddick has an easy running style and appears to be much more confident than he did last season. He was used sparingly then, but sometimes in key situations. This season, he appears set up for an expanded role if he is prepared for it.
?Not surprising, but Don Carey is the leader for the third safety spot. He filled in for Glover Quin when he sat out parts of team drills and is going to end up being an all-purpose defensive back for the Lions this season. He can play either safety spot and also drop down and play nickel as well. His versatility and special teams play was part of why the Lions signed him to an extension this offseason.
?I?ll have more on this later this week, but Rodney Austin has spent more time working at center. He did some work there with the first unit on Tuesday and said after practice it is an area he spent a little bit more time on this offseason. He knows being able to play guard and center effectively is a key for securing a roster spot. Also lining up with the first group at times -- at guard -- was third-round pick Travis Swanson.
?A rough day for Giorgio Tavecchio in the kicking battle. He missed a couple of field goals, including shanking one after hitting his foot on the ground before he made contact with the ball. After practice, he told me his performance Tuesday was "devastating."
?Lions not participating in practice: Tate, Bell (knee), defensive end Ezekiel Ansah (shoulder). Cornerback Chris Houston (toe) was not in attendance. Neither was receiver T.J. Jones (undisclosed). Both, Caldwell said, were excused absences. Houston has not been around the team all spring after having toe surgery. Rob Sims, Dominic Raiola and Quin all also sat out various portions of practice. Talking to Raiola after practice, he seemed fine. Among those returning to practice are linebacker Kyle Van Noy, receiver Kris Durham and tight end Joseph Fauria.
 
I never know how to feel about mini camps.
Makes me nervous that the defense couldn't stop an offense that was essentially the same as we had last year.
 
I find it odd that Houston hasn't even shown up....to ANYTHING this offseason. Hurt toe 8 months ago and he cant even sit on a sideline yet?....something is off.

Hopefully the injury sidelines him long enough to move him to the bottom of the depth chart. Guy is horrible. I hope Jonte Green gets more pt this year anyway, or Greenwood.
 
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I never know how to feel about mini camps.
Makes me nervous that the defense couldn't stop an offense that was essentially the same as we had last year.


Tate, Ebron, Waddle full time, new schemes and Broyles healthy. Yeah essentially the same. Rolls eyes.
 
Never was high on Greenwood but I'm in agreement. Let the guy play a full season to see what he can do..I'm getting tired of Houston.
 
Never was high on Greenwood but I'm in agreement. Let the guy play a full season to see what he can do..I'm getting tired of Houston.

Greenwood has the hernia issue again. I like what I saw the last 2 weeks from him. Greenwood and Houston need to shake the injuries.
 
Houston was getting beat up before his injury, I just don't see him as a starter anymore. Time for one of these young guys to step up. I think it will be Green. Mathis could surprise us, I just don't see him keeping up with these young guys as we get closer to the season.
 
Greenwood has the hernia issue again. I like what I saw the last 2 weeks from him. Greenwood and Houston need to shake the injuries.

From what I've read, he's still on the field though. I don't get where he goes from here, doesn't he need surgery to repair this? He's fighting for a roster spot so he's just going to play his ass off till he earns a roster spot, then have surgery when the season is closer to starting?
 
Tate, Ebron, Waddle full time, new schemes and Broyles healthy. Yeah essentially the same. Rolls eyes.

Tate sat out, Ebron is still behind Fauria on the depth chart, not sure where broyles is on the depth chart, + Bell out.
 
Pretty sure Broyles is till limited to individual drills
 
Houston was getting beat up before his injury, I just don't see him as a starter anymore. Time for one of these young guys to step up. I think it will be Green. Mathis could surprise us, I just don't see him keeping up with these young guys as we get closer to the season.

Houston had a hamstring injury before his toe injury. So again, know the context.
 
Great, a full season of watching Houston get burned. Can't wait.

Sore hammy or not, this guy has not been guaranteed a starting spot this year. And judging by the way Caldwell addresses the media on Chris Houstons injury issues, and not drafting a cb early in the draft, I'm going to say Caldwell is not concerned or worried when or if Houston returns.
 
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Good. Other than one good year, guy is a subpar CB at best. 1.8 INT's a year and low tackle numbers just isn't going to cut it.
 
I'm not counting on Broyles at all. He could be Jerry fuckin' Rice but injury after injury I'm not expecting jack from him.
 
Good. Other than one good year, guy is a subpar CB at best. 1.8 INT's a year and low tackle numbers just isn't going to cut it.

Solid in 2010. Good in 2011 and 2012.

So only bad year as a Lion was injured year.
 
The guy stunk in Atlanta too. You know, you have to actually use the entire story, and not just pick and choose the facts. He's not a good CB. He's functional at best. He is who he is. He's not going to suddenly become very good or even great. He's mediocre. Expect mediocre results.
 
The guy stunk in Atlanta too. You know, you have to actually use the entire story, and not just pick and choose the facts. He's not a good CB. He's functional at best. He is who he is. He's not going to suddenly become very good or even great. He's mediocre. Expect mediocre results.

All that matters is him as a Lion. 3 out of 4 good seasons. Better coaching in Detroit and he got the experience he needed.

He's a good number 1 CB at best, when healthy.
 
Even the coach said he is not certain Houston will return to form. Which is coach speak for the guy is done. When a brand new coach comes in and doesnt publically say he is 100% confident in a player you know that means he expects nothing from him.

It will come down to the Dline. I have little confidence in our secondary. I also probably have too much confidence in out Dline. Could be a long year defensively.
 
Even the coach said he is not certain Houston will return to form. Which is coach speak for the guy is done. When a brand new coach comes in and doesnt publically say he is 100% confident in a player you know that means he expects nothing from him.

It will come down to the Dline. I have little confidence in our secondary. I also probably have too much confidence in out Dline. Could be a long year defensively.

LKP said that the Lions defense is as good as the Seahawks. He knows...he watches the tape!
 
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