Missing the big picture in the Clinton email thing

[tinselwolverine]

Yes, he lied under oath. About something that had no bearing on his ability to run the country.

But the main point is he shouldn't have been asked in the first place.

Paula Jones's attorney-I've forgotten her name-was trying to establish that there was a quid pro quo; sex for promotions in the Clinton administrations in Little Rock and in the White House.

I haven't followed any sexual harassment lawsuits other than that one.

I don't know how common or uncommon personal questions of this nature come up in such a proceeding.

 

[Michchamp]

We're not talking about Bush or the Iraq war. All I have to say about that is your routine is old and tired - don't have a response for criticism of one of your beloved Dems? No problem, just steer the conversation to Iraq with your old and tired propaganda and make it about how Bush was worse.

but it is appropriate here.

if you could point me to where you or some GOP partisans demanded Bush Jr, Dick C., et al be raked over the coals for their secrecy & email scandals, I might care more to listen to Republitard hacks like you bitch about Billary's use of a private email account.

 

[Gulo Blue]

but it is appropriate here.

if you could point me to where you or some GOP partisans demanded Bush Jr, Dick C., et al be raked over the coals for their secrecy & email scandals, I might care more to listen to Republitard hacks like you bitch about Billary's use of a private email account.

Not a fan of this line of thinking if I follow correctly. ARE YOU SAYING if anybody gets away with anything without enough criticism, we'll forgive it of anyone else going forward?

 

[tinselwolverine]

Paula Jones's attorney-I've forgotten her name-was trying to establish that there was a quid pro quo; sex for promotions in the Clinton administrations in Little Rock and in the White House.

I haven't followed any sexual harassment lawsuits other than that one.

I don't know how common or uncommon personal questions of this nature come up in such a proceeding.

EDIT: As I recall now, Clinton's attorneys went through the judicial process of getting him out of answering all the way up to the Supreme Court, and they ruled eight to nothing (I don't know who abstained) that the questions should be allowed (it was a civil so Clinton did have the option of defaulting and not answering at all, but he chose to answer).

 

[Sbee]

Doesn't this assume none of the communications were classified and if they were, wasn't she violating policy re: security and possibly committing a crime?

you would have to be able to prove intent, that she knowingly forwarded classified information. If she only received classified email on her personal account, that's not an issue since you can't control what's sent to you. If you forwarded it along without knowing that it was classified that's not a crime, thanks to the intent requirement of the law. She would have a compelling defense if it came down to it.

 

[biggunsbob]

Iraq was worse. Der, derrrr, derrrrrrrrr.

You really think this is worse then Iraq? Wow.. I get that you don't want to hear about it anymore but how do any Republicans (I know you claim not to be) think that anyone on the left or in the middle will trust them anymore and vote for them after that lie?

 

[byco42]

"Sole objective" is your term, your opinion on the matter.

But yes other than Washington, who never wanted the job, almost every other candidate trying to get elected would do whatever it took to get elected. There is a reason politicians are often considers liars, cheats, etc. and campaigns are full of mud slinging and backstabbing.

And while I'm not a big fan of Hillary, I seriously doubt she is anywhere even remotely as bad as you think when compared to other candidates in terms of what her "sole objectives" are.

You need to read your presidential history. And Hillary is that bad.

 

[biggunsbob]

You need to read your presidential history. And Hillary is that bad.

So with 138 indictments how was the Reagan administration then?
BTW the most by any president's administration...

Just Curious?

 

[biggunsbob]

You need to read your presidential history. And Hillary is that bad.

Right now she will make a better president that any of the republican candidates.

 

[Thumb]

You need to read your presidential history. And Hillary is that bad.

Right, because I'm sure everything is included in the history books.

Don't be naive.

 

[byco42]

Right now she will make a better president that any of the republican candidates.

I wholeheartedly reject that statement.

 

[byco42]

Right, because I'm sure everything is included in the history books.

Don't be naive.

Lincoln was nominated for president on the third ballot. Franklin Pierce was nominated without his knowledge on the 48th ballot. Eisenhower had no interest in the presidency. Johnson did not seek a second term. Hayes retired after one term as he promised. Garfield was an accidental nominee and was finally chosen on the 36th ballot.

Before the primary system, the selection method practically discouraged ambition for the office. So there were a lot of presidents who never "craved power and influence," until Woodrow Wilson, who may have been the first modern president.

 

[Michchamp]

Not a fan of this line of thinking if I follow correctly. ARE YOU SAYING if anybody gets away with anything without enough criticism, we'll forgive it of anyone else going forward?

???

I think I've made it clear I'm not a fan of Billary, or think what she did was okay.

I am just not moved by the Republitard outrage over this given the what not.

 

[Thumb]

Lincoln was nominated for president on the third ballot. Franklin Pierce was nominated without his knowledge on the 48th ballot. Eisenhower had no interest in the presidency. Johnson did not seek a second term. Hayes retired after one term as he promised. Garfield was an accidental nominee and was finally chosen on the 36th ballot.

Before the primary system, the selection method practically discouraged ambition for the office. So there were a lot of presidents who never "craved power and influence," until Woodrow Wilson, who may have been the first modern president.

This is what you quoted from me and made bold font: almost every other candidate trying to get elected would do whatever it took to get elected.

Please take note of the part that says "CANDIDATE TRYING TO GET ELECTED"

 

[Spartanmack]

but it is appropriate here.

if you could point me to where you or some GOP partisans demanded Bush Jr, Dick C., et al be raked over the coals for their secrecy & email scandals, I might care more to listen to Republitard hacks like you bitch about Billary's use of a private email account.

It's not appropriate because other people's alleged bad behavior is not relevant to whether or not Clinton broke the law. I'm not aware of other government officials improper or possibly illegal use of personal email and you're not comparing Clinton's email scandal to another similar scandal. You're trying to steer the conversation to be about how the Iraq war was worse based on lies, misdirection and libtard propaganda. We've had that conversation many times over - basically every time this scandal magnet makes a new headline or whenever Obama tramples on the constitution to impose his worldview on his subjects.

 

[Spartanmack]

you would have to be able to prove intent, that she knowingly forwarded classified information. If she only received classified email on her personal account, that's not an issue since you can't control what's sent to you. If you forwarded it along without knowing that it was classified that's not a crime, thanks to the intent requirement of the law. She would have a compelling defense if it came down to it.

She would have a convenient excuse and an obvious lie that only libtard rubes would believe.

 

[Spartanmack]

You really think this is worse then Iraq? Wow.. I get that you don't want to hear about it anymore but how do any Republicans (I know you claim not to be) think that anyone on the left or in the middle will trust them anymore and vote for them after that lie?

Wow. No bob, what I'm saying is Iraq and whatever he thinks Bush's transgressions were have absolutely nothing to do w/ the Clinton email scandal. That should have been obvious.

 

[byco42]

This is what you quoted from me and made bold font: almost every other candidate trying to get elected would do whatever it took to get elected.

Please take note of the part that says "CANDIDATE TRYING TO GET ELECTED"

The primary system changed everything, for the worst, IMO. That's when your statement really began to apply.

 

[Spartanmack]

Right now she will make a better president that any of the republican candidates.

She is a horrible human being who thinks rules and laws only apply to the little people. People like that don't make good presidents.

 

[tomdalton22]

Right now she will make a better president that any of the republican candidates.

I honestly don't know if that is true or not. That said...I don't feel she has the balls to be POTUS (no pun intended).