MSU pres. Resigns

[hungry]

titles are important, Dubbsco mentioned a program, that's a specific sport. The athletic department encompasses all of the programs. There was obviously a problem with the gymnastics program, I have yet to see that things weren't handled properly by football and basketball, with a few questions still to be answered. Trying to link all of them together is reckless, Nassar reported up through the department of osteopathic medicine, so did the trainers, the only link to the athletic department was Kathy Klages who was fired last year and should face the max punishment available.

As for the students protesting the board of trustees, I'd bet that half of them don't know how the trustees get their position. If you have no confidence, you can vote them out in November.

Only 2 of them come up for re-election this November. Their terms are overlapping.

 

[Michchamp]

If we're going to point fingers at the "culture" that lets predators victimize over and over and never get caught, I think part of it we need to focus on is the legal advice to avoid transparency and admit no wrong.

I was going to mention, in regards to your earlier point about an investigation to uncover what happened at MSU and how it went on for so long, I do think it was necessary to force Lou Diamond Phillips out before that could take place, given her obvious negative influence on disclosure and transparency. same with Hollis.

and the resignations hopefully got the message to anyone else trying to sandbag a full inquiry or hope to delay until things "blow over."

 

[Michchamp]

Hollis? Well, he retired, so he didn't do anything wrong...

The unreported sexual assault allegation against Travis Walton and 2 unnamed basketball players might be it, though. According to the alleged victim, he told her that he'd do something about it and talk to the team about it. I think that from everything that has come out, he did nothing of the sort.

There very well could be more, though. I do wonder if the ESPN OTL is all they have/had or if there is a part II coming soon.

Conveniently, if anything does come up about Dantonio or Izzo, not saying anything will, but if it does, well, Hollis can fall on those swords, too.

Izzo / Walton looks worse. I still can't believe Izzo tried to play dumb about Walton's rap sheet on campus.

"I had no idea the guy on my coaching staff who lives in my basement was going around, beating and assaulting girls on campus, and getting charged with assault and battery. I was as surprised as everyone else to learn these things just now, like you."

 

[hungry]

They got rid of everything. The recommendations, but also they listed two failures, failure to adequately explain the procedure and failure to get consent. That was stripped. Even in the 3 sentences they didn't strip, they changed

However, we find the claim helpful in that it allows us to examine certain practices at the MSU Sports Medicine Clinic."

to

However, we find the claim helpful in that it brought to light some significant problems that the practice will want to address.

Personally, this looks to me like priority 1 is avoiding liability, and I'm especially concerned because Michigan has hired the same law firm.

There was, also, the report to the victim that the procedure was a legit medical procedure and then the 2nd copy that stated that they felt that Nassar was abusing his patients, but I digress, I'm making this stuff up as I go.

 

[hungry]

I was going to mention, in regards to your earlier point about an investigation to uncover what happened at MSU and how it went on for so long, I do think it was necessary to force Lou Diamond Phillips out before that could take place, given her obvious negative influence on disclosure and transparency. same with Hollis.

and the resignations hopefully got the message to anyone else trying to sandbag a full inquiry or hope to delay until things "blow over."

Lou Diamond Phillips?!?!

 

[hungry]

Izzo / Walton looks worse. I still can't believe Izzo tried to play dumb about Walton's rap sheet on campus.

"I had no idea the guy on my coaching staff who lives in my basement was going around, beating and assaulting girls on campus, and getting charged with assault and battery. I was as surprised as everyone else to learn these things just now, like you."

Well, they knocked it down to littering. That's sounds perfectly legit.

 

[thewolverines24]

Well, they knocked it down to littering. That's sounds perfectly legit.

Littering a female's face with punches. Totally makes sense.

 

[Michchamp]

Lou Diamond Phillips?!?!

I keep getting her name confused with everyone else who has a Lou in their name, and uses 3 names.

Mary Lou Retton, Lou Diamond Phillips, uh...

 

[Michchamp]

captain lou albano

 

[hungry]

btw, I didn't make up anything. I got it from actual police reports and such. I'm definitely not going to dig up everything I read so long ago

The Mumphrey piece was easy, but sbee blew that off saying that the football camp was only 8 days after his ban started and that there was no proof Mumphrey was on campus. If he wasn't on campus, there wouldn't be any lawsuit. Witness claimed in the article that they saw Mumphrey on campus. Who cares that it was only 8 days after his ban started? That's even worse. "You're banned from campus." 8 days later he shows up to do a football camp.

Oh and he was there, I distinctly remember them asking Dantonio about it and he stated that he was already scheduled to be there and by the time the ban was in place, it was too late to cancel and that it was "for the kids."

Man! I sure am a good storyteller, though. Where do I come up with this stuff?

btw, I don't care if Dantonio or Izzo gets fired, as far as, making it easier for MIchigan to beat MSU. Really, i don't. Hell, Michigan just beat MSU 2 weeks ago in Breslin. I'm confident that Harbaugh will turn things around against MSU. If they made mistakes on these situations, though, they should get punished, whatever that may be.

 

[hungry]

i do admit, though. i have read more and more recently about the GIbbons thing, because it keeps coming up. Even though there was not charges brought on Gibbons and the proof for a title IX violation was quite high at that time, Michigan probably could've and should've cut ties with Gibbons. Rich Rod is to blame for that. Another bad thing that he did. Glad he got fired.

Hoke came out and said some bs about "attending to a family matter." That was stupid. I am quite certain that he couldn't come out and say, "Well, he has been expelled from the university for a title IX violation," but what he did say was stupid. He could've just said no comment or nothing. Glad he got fired, too.

 

[hungry]

Another note: We don't have to use the word "alleged" concerning the 4 most recently booted from the MSU football team. They were found guilty by the title IX investigation.

 

[Spartanmack]

Izzo / Walton looks worse. I still can't believe Izzo tried to play dumb about Walton's rap sheet on campus.

"I had no idea the guy on my coaching staff who lives in my basement was going around, beating and assaulting girls on campus, and getting charged with assault and battery. I was as surprised as everyone else to learn these things just now, like you."

he wasn't a coach, he wasn't living in Izzo's house when the alleged assault took place (lived w/ him for about 3 weeks), the accuser in the assault case is not the most credible person around plus both parties have witnesses who support their versions of events and according to Walton, even he wasn't aware of the sexual assault allegation until a few days ago - kinda hard to expect izzo to know about that. Other than everything, you were spot on here.

 

[hungry]

His title was Student Assistant Coach

 

[hungry]

We're just supposed to buy, "the accuser in the assault case is not the most credible person around?"

Based on what?

 

[Mawilli]

We're just supposed to buy, "the accuser in the assault case is not the most credible person around?"

Based on what?

You can't reason with these MSU tards man. It's pointless. They just can't fathom that something bad might happen to their precious football and basketball programs.

 

[dubbsco]

he wasn't a coach, he wasn't living in Izzo's house when the alleged assault took place (lived w/ him for about 3 weeks), the accuser in the assault case is not the most credible person around plus both parties have witnesses who support their versions of events and according to Walton, even he wasn't aware of the sexual assault allegation until a few days ago - kinda hard to expect izzo to know about that. Other than everything, you were spot on here.

I'm absolutely baffled by the timeline with Walton. He was sitting on Izzo's bench in a suit and tie. We are to believe that he wasn't coaching in any way, shape or form? He was just a civilian dressed to the nines helping to be nice?

Did all of this stuff happen AFTER his duties on the bench? I honestly am asking truthfully. Because in his statement, he said "I was never hired or fired by MSU in any way." I just find that absolutely hard to believe. Maybe he wasn't PAID, but he was on that bench coaching.

 

[hungry]

The way i understand it is that he was very similar to the graduate assistant coaches, except that he hadn't graduated.

 

[Sbee]

Hollis? Well, he retired, so he didn't do anything wrong...

The unreported sexual assault allegation against Travis Walton and 2 unnamed basketball players might be it, though. According to the alleged victim, he told her that he'd do something about it and talk to the team about it. I think that from everything that has come out, he did nothing of the sort.

There very well could be more, though. I do wonder if the ESPN OTL is all they have/had or if there is a part II coming soon.

Conveniently, if anything does come up about Dantonio or Izzo, not saying anything will, but if it does, well, Hollis can fall on those swords, too.

My gut feeling is that this is the reason Izzo and Dantonio haven't elaborated on anything, they're researching each situation to make sure there aren't any surprises out there. I think they don't want to make a statement and then ESPN has info that contradicts what they said, which would be a disaster.

After they feel that all of the I's are dotted and T's are crossed, then they will speak on the allegations and their handling of them. Just my thought on it but it is plausible

 

[Spartanmack]

His title was Student Assistant Coach

Boom, walton is a rapist and Izzo covered for him.

He was a student manager. He wasn't even a grad assistant because he was still finishing his undergrad degree. He was unpaid, never hired or fired and his bio on the school site never indicated he was a coach of any kind.