And the big issue is most on here think the Lions 7-9 wins is them maxing out on their potential. That is in 2014 and was in 2013 them underachieving. 10-13 wins is them reaching their potential with normal injuries and around even turnovers. 12-13 is probably a little lucky too.
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My way too early yardage prediction thread
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The coaches are not. The weapons are upgraded and more durable hopefully leading to less backups playing. 12 of 19 were on Stafford only. And ints is a little bit of a volume stat too. More attempts lead to more yards, more attempts also lead to more int opportunities especially with backups playing at WR and TE. Stafford can reduce to 10-14 range and win alot of games. I don't expect 15 fumbles lost (bad recovery rate changes or just less fumbles).
This team needs to be in the -4 to +4 range for turnovers to kick everyones ass.
Hell Stafford at 16 picks and 10 fumbles lost as a team is a reduction of 8 turnovers. Considering the Lions still were damn close with 34 turnovers, 26 turnovers they can get alot more wins.
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If you think they will only win 7-9 games, well you think that is underachieving hopefully. If you think 7-9 wins is their max they are capable of with this roster, then you are an idiot.
I am fully aware the Lions could get 7-9 wins only. But I feel that is an underachievement for their talent. And injuries were a part of the reason for that underachievement in 2013. Along with some lax in coaching of Staffords footwork, along with concentration issues by talented players.
I am fully aware the Lions could get 7-9 wins only. But I feel that is an underachievement for their talent. And injuries were a part of the reason for that underachievement in 2013. Along with some lax in coaching of Staffords footwork, along with concentration issues by talented players.
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I think a lot of people expect them to be the normal Lions and under achieve. In all honesty, if they "play to their roster" and have typical injuries (similar to last year) and the coaching is adequate they should win 8 or 9 games. If they get lucky with injuries and play above their heads they could win 10-11 games which would likely get them in the playoffs.
8-9 is not their max but we'll agree to disagree. And last year was not typical. Maybe in number, but it's more a game by game comparison that needs to be made. Lions had a clear disadvantage in 7 losses. And also it was not typical because the injuries were concentrated in the secondary, DE and WR/TE.
Lions could miss 3 to 4 starters on average like 2013 but it may be spread across the roster. Could be Tate, Sims, Jones and Houston. With Ebron, Austin, Taylor and Mathis we can handle that. I think Taylor and Slay can pick up more slack this year too with a year under their belts.
When it's Quin/Bentley and both DEs like the Steeler game, that's a bigger problem than spread out. Pass defense issues those injuries causes. Plus Willie Young didn't step up despite a good season.
When it's Calvin/Broyles/Pettigrew or Calvin/Burleson like at Vikings and at GB, there goes your passing game the strength of your team on the road.
When it's Waddle/Bush like Eagles game (plus the snow taking away the pass) or Waddle/Petigrew at Vikings, there goes your run game.
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vegas does whatever they have to to analyze all information to ensure they aren't going to lose a bunch of money. Which makes them probably the least biased source on the planet. They even take into account injuries like you do. They just place less importance on an UDFA rookie RT being out that has only played in a handful of games and doesn't even grade out that well when he does play....than you do. Why?....cause they are smarter than you....
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You study the Lions (with homer blinders on) while Vegas insiders study all 30 teams. They are better informed about all NFL teams than you are. They know the Lions AND their opponents. You just look at the Lions and think they are better than everybody else.
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Posts like this make me think that LKP is just another regular poster using a different name and messing with us.
http://www.mlive.com/lions/index.ssf/2014/05/las_vegas_showing_detroit_lion.html
Haha I love proving you morons wrong. Vegas is on my side
Haha I love proving you morons wrong. Vegas is on my side
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how does that prove us wrong? that's for next year. If I remember correctly they had us at 7 games last year.....we finished at 7 games. You had us at 16 games...you were very wrong.
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waddle didn't have a very good grade....and the other players at his position were equally as good. Losing him meant nothing....
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ps....they have us favored in 7 of 8 home games....not gonna happen. And favored vs the falcons in London ...stretch.
Not to mention they have GB favored in 12 games.....so good job vegas.....you have the lions not making the playoffs again. Vegas...youre always right when you disagree with LKP!
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8 wins....gotta somehow get to 10. That's how i see it.
This. LKP, if you are so sure that the Lions will win 10-11 games in 2014, why don't you put money on them? It should be the easiest money you've ever made if the Lions are as good as you say.
Vegas says 10. You morons say 7. And playoffs at 10. Vegas agrees with my take on the Lions 10-12 wins. Don't be sad your precious Vegas proved you wrong.
Waddle had a great grades in both pass block and run block (+2.4 and +2.7 in only 500 snaps). More playing time, his grade would be a top 5 tackle if he kept up that pace. He was a stud.
I will bet some money on the Lions for sure. Easy money
Waddle had a great grades in both pass block and run block (+2.4 and +2.7 in only 500 snaps). More playing time, his grade would be a top 5 tackle if he kept up that pace. He was a stud.
I will bet some money on the Lions for sure. Easy money
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