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My way too early yardage prediction thread
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The game we are focusing on is the Thanksgiving game so we don't use that for Flynn or Rodgers because we don't know what Rodgers would have done.
We want to know how Flynn did in all his other games but that one. 30.6 PPG over his career. Rodgers 2013 30.6 PPG. It's not that hard to follow the logic.
Flynn in all his other games scored 30.6 PPG. But on Thanksgiving he got a beat down. Impressive victory by the Lions beating a QB that scores 30.6 PPG on average in every other Packer game he's played.
Rodgers could have still lost to Lions, Pittsburgh, Eagles, Giants and Bears. And if Calvin plays Week 5, Lions could have won that game.
I can see a 8-8,9-7 Packers squad in 2014 with Rodgers in all 16.
We want to know how Flynn did in all his other games but that one. 30.6 PPG over his career. Rodgers 2013 30.6 PPG. It's not that hard to follow the logic.
Flynn in all his other games scored 30.6 PPG. But on Thanksgiving he got a beat down. Impressive victory by the Lions beating a QB that scores 30.6 PPG on average in every other Packer game he's played.
Rodgers could have still lost to Lions, Pittsburgh, Eagles, Giants and Bears. And if Calvin plays Week 5, Lions could have won that game.
I can see a 8-8,9-7 Packers squad in 2014 with Rodgers in all 16.
jdeb
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Fuzzy logic. Bottom line is the Lions choked big time. Poor preparation, execution, and discipline. Same thing year after year.
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tomdalton22
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you continue to amaze me with your stupidity!
It's exhausting to me that none of you guys are informed enough or can put the logic together
LKP, you can do as much research as you want about the poor luck, the excuses, whatever. But when you say the Lions have the talent to go 16-0, and that they have a defense that is "very close" to Seattle, it really doesn't matter what you say, you lose all credibility.
It is close talent wise. 16-0 talent doesn't mean I think they will hit that mark. 11-12 win team is very credible
boogerlovejoy
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This.
Every intelligent statement LKP makes is forgotten when he makes statements like that.
The fact he honestly believe that makes me think he's more Hoopster than credible poster.
Most overrate Seattle is your problem. There turnover difference is not sustainable. And it seems most on here underrate any player who puts on a lions jersey or don't give the young players a chance to develop. You ignore staffords good qualities which there are many, you ignore past good years from Chris Houston, you ignore the depth the lions do have, you ignore what Mathis did and slays measurable and how good Quin and tulloch were. Fairley is inconsistent but still a good dt. Nobody gives Caldwell enough credit. The list goes on and on
Am I about Houston's injury and jones history. Sure but that doesn't derail the season. Despite two years, I am confident the lions can get the turnovers to around even and stafford is low 60 percent at least with normal drop rate, maybe more with coaching. I admit burleson for half year and pettigrew weren't enough but a very excited for durable reliable Tate and matchup nightmare ebron. And Calvin healthier after his surgeries. Excited to see 16 games out of waddle and sims/pettigrew back to form in run blocking. And I am still confident in Ansah, slay, Taylor, Bentley growing to help this defense
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See, this is a non-insane post.
Too bad it was predicated by an "I love to eat guana" post.
There's the problem!
What did Mathis do? Guy didn't force a single fumble or turnover. And you are banking on "Slay's measurables"? Come on man. You are reaching big time. The team has a long way to go, and they have to prove it. Until then, they aren't even in the same stratosphere as Seattle.
No one is ignoring his good qualities. The problem is that his bad qualities are blocking out the good. The guy is going into his 6th season. Time to make other players better. I have this sinking feeling that if Stafford struggles, the Lions will invest another 1st round pick in a WR/TE. He's got enough.
No one is ignoring his good qualities. The problem is that his bad qualities are blocking out the good. The guy is going into his 6th season. Time to make other players better. I have this sinking feeling that if Stafford struggles, the Lions will invest another 1st round pick in a WR/TE. He's got enough.
Bullshit the first post was bad. The first post was the truth too. Keep ignoring all the Lions good traits that far outweigh the bad.
Mathis was the best in the North in coverage (27th in league). Only 48% completion allowed, 10 PDS, little YAC. Mathis had a good year and is a legit starter and can play in the nickel spot too. And Slay's measurables are better than Gilbert or Dennard and the scheme this year fits Slay this year. Slay can be a very good corner. I'm not reaching at all, I'm just informed how big and fast Slay is compared to the rookie CBs.
The bad for Stafford is not blocking out the good. The good far outweighs the bad for Stafford. The good is being ignored by everyone and the full context of drop rate higher than any other team by far and separation and injuries are not being added into the equation by all of you.
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LKPs biggest issue, is he doesn't use the same line of thinking for other teams. He believes Lions players will rebound from down years, play at their career best level, reach 100% of potential, and will not regress. He doesn't factor in injuries, when they happen he will use them as an excuse on why they didn't reach his prediction.
He doesnt give other teams the same benefit.
Green bay lost their starting LT, Morgan Burnett missed multiple games, cobb, jame jones, Finley. Their LB core and Dline missed many games combined.
Green bay was far more injured than Detroit. Their starters missed many more games, and their players were injured for many other games just like Detroit.
For some reason he thinks only Lions players play through injury.
He doesnt give other teams the same benefit.
Green bay lost their starting LT, Morgan Burnett missed multiple games, cobb, jame jones, Finley. Their LB core and Dline missed many games combined.
Green bay was far more injured than Detroit. Their starters missed many more games, and their players were injured for many other games just like Detroit.
For some reason he thinks only Lions players play through injury.
Lions were the more injured team in 7 of their losses. I proved that.
Green Bay was healthier than Detroit Week 5. That is a fact.
I don't care about other teams ints. I only care that 12 of 19 were Stafford fault. If Stafford only has 12 this year the Lions will be in great shape. It's irrelevant what every other QB has. Stafford having 12 is how the Lions improve along with Tate/Ebron/coaching to reduce those picks with less forces into weapons that didn't get separation.
Lions don't need every player to rebound. Hell Jones can suck but we still have Suh, Fairley, Ansah and Taylor to dominate. We barely need Jones for pressure. He's more run defense like CJ Mosely.
Same with Houston when we have Mathis and Slay who can start.
A healthy Lions team can win alot of games against a healthy opponent (any opponent).
I list facts of reasons why the Lions lose games. They cannot be disputed and going forward can easily be avoided.
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